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Re: Who Else Did Ainge Call?
« Reply #45 on: July 02, 2008, 05:35:11 PM »

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Yep. Diop has an unofficial agreement with Dallas for the full MLE.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3471169

Here is the textbook example of how teams spend themselves OUT of title contention.  I'm not saying Dallas doesn't need someone like Diop, but who else was going to give him that deal, does it make any sense to spend that much money on that sort of player when you're in luxury tax land, and why would Dallas completely take themselves out of the running for anyone else this off season?

Mike

For a decent 7 footer than can play defense, the MLE is not a lot of money, imo.  Good deal for the Mavs.

  I don't think he's ever averaged as much as 20 minutes a game, or has ever averaged more than 3 points a game. That might be the market, but it's a ridiculous amount of money for the production.

Re: Who Else Did Ainge Call?
« Reply #46 on: July 02, 2008, 05:35:39 PM »

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While we're on the topic, if we were to give Posey the full MLE for just 3 years, what money is available for House and/or TA?  House and Posey split the MLE last year.  I don't see House coming back for just the LLE---he's worth more than that.  Is there some bucket of $$$ I'm overlooking?

I think the LLE would be House's biggest contract in his career. It's very possible that we can retain House only using the non-Bird exception.

Answering your question, once the MLE is gone, we have:
- LLE
- Non-Bird Exception for our free agents (salary starting at 120% of the player's salary in the previous season, plus 8% raises in the following year)
- Minimum

Re: Who Else Did Ainge Call?
« Reply #47 on: July 02, 2008, 07:54:27 PM »

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While we're on the topic, if we were to give Posey the full MLE for just 3 years, what money is available for House and/or TA?  House and Posey split the MLE last year.  I don't see House coming back for just the LLE---he's worth more than that.  Is there some bucket of $$$ I'm overlooking?

I think the LLE would be House's biggest contract in his career. It's very possible that we can retain House only using the non-Bird exception.

Answering your question, once the MLE is gone, we have:
- LLE
- Non-Bird Exception for our free agents (salary starting at 120% of the player's salary in the previous season, plus 8% raises in the following year)
- Minimum
Thanks--the non-Bird exception was the one I was missing.

If I recall correctly, the LLE can only be used every other year.  I would be surprised if Danny used that on him.  Not sure just a 20% increase would get him back either.

Re: Who Else Did Ainge Call?
« Reply #48 on: July 02, 2008, 08:02:38 PM »

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House's salaries for the past 7 years:

07/08 $1,500,000
06/07 $1,400,000
05/06 $835,810
04/05 $825,000
03/04 $750,000
02/03 $637,435

I don't see him getting an offer that tops $1,8M. And his individual stats regressed last season.


Re: Who Else Did Ainge Call?
« Reply #49 on: July 02, 2008, 08:08:32 PM »

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House's salaries for the past 7 years:

07/08 $1,500,000
06/07 $1,400,000
05/06 $835,810
04/05 $825,000
03/04 $750,000
02/03 $637,435

I don't see him getting an offer that tops $1,8M. And his individual stats regressed last season.


Nice bit of research.  TP for you.

I could be off the mark on this but he got the 1.5 mill last year without terrific numbers in his career.  Now he's shown he can be a key contributor on a championship team.   1.8 mill may be a realistic but if I'm in his shoes (or his agent's shoes), I'd be checking around for 2 mill contracts.  Keeping in mind he was pushed aside when Sam was signed, he may want to move on to a more stable situation.  There's no guarantees Danny wouldn't do the same thing next year (unless he keeps the roster at 15 people going into the season).

Re: Who Else Did Ainge Call?
« Reply #50 on: July 02, 2008, 08:29:20 PM »

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Yep. Diop has an unofficial agreement with Dallas for the full MLE.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3471169

Here is the textbook example of how teams spend themselves OUT of title contention.  I'm not saying Dallas doesn't need someone like Diop, but who else was going to give him that deal, does it make any sense to spend that much money on that sort of player when you're in luxury tax land, and why would Dallas completely take themselves out of the running for anyone else this off season?

Mike

For a decent 7 footer than can play defense, the MLE is not a lot of money, imo.  Good deal for the Mavs.

  I don't think he's ever averaged as much as 20 minutes a game, or has ever averaged more than 3 points a game. That might be the market, but it's a ridiculous amount of money for the production.

His value to the Mavs has little to do with the #s you cite.  Doug Collins continually brought up in the playoffs that he was a missing ingredient inside for certain matchups in the West, apparently Dallas agreed.

Re: Who Else Did Ainge Call?
« Reply #51 on: July 02, 2008, 10:58:48 PM »

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House's salaries for the past 7 years:

07/08 $1,500,000
06/07 $1,400,000
05/06 $835,810
04/05 $825,000
03/04 $750,000
02/03 $637,435

I don't see him getting an offer that tops $1,8M. And his individual stats regressed last season.



so by the year 3090 he'll be making kevin garnett money...
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Re: Who Else Did Ainge Call?
« Reply #52 on: July 03, 2008, 04:38:37 AM »

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The Celtics can offer a Non Birds Rights contract to House AND he'd probably take it.  With him and Pruitt, we would have a nice competition for the backup PG position.

Chris Anderson, IMO, is worth the LLE.  Good backup at center.   

Also, I'd be surprised if we didn't sign Posey.