So our current/future roster

[Scribbles]

Right now we have 18 players now with the draft finished. 

Team Roster
NO. NAME POS
20 Ray Allen SG
42 Tony Allen SG*
93 P.J. Brown FC*
28 Sam Cassell PG*
11 Glen Davis C
5 Kevin Garnett PF
50 Eddie House PG*
43 Kendrick Perkins C
34 Paul Pierce SF
66 Scot Pollard C*
41 James Posey SF*
0 Leon Powe PF
13 Gabe Pruitt
9 Rajon Rondo
44 Brian Scalabrine
   JR Giddens x
   Bill Walker x
   Semih Erden x
*=free agent
x=unsigned rookie

Currently not counting free agents we have 9 signed players.  Giddens was our 1st round selection so he will have a contract for 2-3 years.  So that puts our roster up to 10 players.  I think its safe to say Sam and Scot are gone, and P.J. is most likely going to retire.  The Turkish guy Erden isn't going to be coming over for a while, if ever.  So that leaves 3 spots for Walker, TA, House, and Posey. 

I'm guessing Tony and Eddie aren't going to be back though I think there is a slight chance House may come back as he proved a big part in the run to #17. I think we have  to really sign Posey.  However I'm wondering by trading for Walker is that a move just in case Posey walks?  I know the guy was lottery talent before he got hurt but I think he was an insurance pick in case Posey gets a big offer from another team. 

Also we have little size on our bench.  This either means Scal will be playing more next season or we won't sign House, Allen, or House and go for a free agent big man.  I know alot can happen with trades and such but what do you guys all think? I'm pretty sure most agree Tony is pretty much gone unless Posey leaves for another team. 

[guava_wrench]

Walker can't replace Posey because:

1 - he's too small
2 - he's not ready
3 - Posey was a defensive monster already in college

I think Danny just wanted the uys with the best potential and guys with athleticism since our team is kinda old. Makes sense to me.

[bucknersrevenge]

Right now we have 18 players now with the draft finished. 

Team Roster
NO. NAME POS
20 Ray Allen SG
42 Tony Allen SG*
93 P.J. Brown FC*
28 Sam Cassell PG*
11 Glen Davis C
5 Kevin Garnett PF
50 Eddie House PG*
43 Kendrick Perkins C
34 Paul Pierce SF
66 Scot Pollard C*
41 James Posey SF*
0 Leon Powe PF
13 Gabe Pruitt
9 Rajon Rondo
44 Brian Scalabrine
   JR Giddens x
   Bill Walker x
   Semih Erden x
*=free agent
x=unsigned rookie

Currently not counting free agents we have 9 signed players.  Giddens was our 1st round selection so he will have a contract for 2-3 years.  So that puts our roster up to 10 players.  I think its safe to say Sam and Scot are gone, and P.J. is most likely going to retire.  The Turkish guy Erden isn't going to be coming over for a while, if ever.  So that leaves 3 spots for Walker, TA, House, and Posey. 

I'm guessing Tony and Eddie aren't going to be back though I think there is a slight chance House may come back as he proved a big part in the run to #17. I think we have  to really sign Posey.  However I'm wondering by trading for Walker is that a move just in case Posey walks?  I know the guy was lottery talent before he got hurt but I think he was an insurance pick in case Posey gets a big offer from another team. 

Also we have little size on our bench.  This either means Scal will be playing more next season or we won't sign House, Allen, or House and go for a free agent big man.  I know alot can happen with trades and such but what do you guys all think? I'm pretty sure most agree Tony is pretty much gone unless Posey leaves for another team. 

doc said in his post draft, the very first thing he said about giddens was that he believed jr could get some minutes right now because of his defense. he thinks that highly of it. the adding of bill walker, another noted athletic defender could give them some leverage. they know they want to bring posey back but i wouldnt be surprised if they tell posey "come back at our numbers or fare thee well and we'll go with what we have now". tonys definitely gone but even with posey while im sure they want him back they may not go "all out" to keep him.

[bucknersrevenge]

Walker can't replace Posey because:

1 - he's too small
2 - he's not ready
3 - Posey was a defensive monster already in college

I think Danny just wanted the uys with the best potential and guys with athleticism since our team is kinda old. Makes sense to me.

he may not be ready but walker is definitely NOT small. hes 6'6 210 with quick hands and quick feet. and not for nothin giddens at 6'5 has a ridiculous 7ft wingspan. hes like rondo with his long arms, good size and athleticism. and much like rondo he plays a lot bigger than he actually is. now they definitely couldnt replace poseys experience or clutchness at both ends. nor his nasty streak that he plays with that we all love. they certainly couldnt slide up to the 4 either but i wouldnt necessarily call either of them small at all.

[Riles335]

Because I see Posey and House both resigning this off-season, I find it doubtful that the Celtics will be any real players in the Free Agent market. Possibly a veteran but in my mind with the roster we have now, I feel confident that the Celtics will stand pat. This is what I see going into next year:

PG Rondo - House - Pruitt
SG Allen - Giddens
SF Pierce - Posey - Walker
PF Garnett - Davis - Scalabrine(Non Active)
C Perkins - Powe

There the Celtics have twelve active players. I really see both Giddens and Walker being ready to contribute but if the Celtics do add a free agency, that would raise questions what they plan to do with a guy like Walker but I'm confident he will make contributions to this club right away. As far as Free Agency, I doubt that the Celtics are looking to go that route and I feel that they think that Walker is a guy who can come in right away, along with Giddens, because the fact that they spent money on acquiring Walker despite already being over the luxury tax.

That though(pending on Posey and House) looks like a very sturdy roster and I'm really happy with the way things are looking.

[RockinRyA]

that would be ok plus the roster space for a big man(pj comin out of retirement again) when we near playoffs.. these 2 rookies could still be part of our roster but i wont be surprised if they are on the IL when the playoffs start

[Riles335]

that would be ok plus the roster space for a big man(pj comin out of retirement again) when we near playoffs.. these 2 rookies could still be part of our roster but i wont be surprised if they are on the IL when the playoffs start

Definitely. Its a strong possibility that a veteran finds himself in the same spot as PJ Brown and Sam Cassell did this year. If that is the case, then yes they will find space on their roster at the expense of one of the rookies but to start the season, I really feel confident in saying that Danny and Doc are confident in these guys making contributions early because of their athleticism and energy.

[guava_wrench]

Walker can't replace Posey because:

1 - he's too small
2 - he's not ready
3 - Posey was a defensive monster already in college

I think Danny just wanted the uys with the best potential and guys with athleticism since our team is kinda old. Makes sense to me.

he may not be ready but walker is definitely NOT small. hes 6'6 210 with quick hands and quick feet. and not for nothin giddens at 6'5 has a ridiculous 7ft wingspan. hes like rondo with his long arms, good size and athleticism. and much like rondo he plays a lot bigger than he actually is. now they definitely couldnt replace poseys experience or clutchness at both ends. nor his nasty streak that he plays with that we all love. they certainly couldnt slide up to the 4 either but i wouldnt necessarily call either of them small at all.

Posey is 6'8" and also has insanely long arms.

[guava_wrench]

that would be ok plus the roster space for a big man(pj comin out of retirement again) when we near playoffs.. these 2 rookies could still be part of our roster but i wont be surprised if they are on the IL when the playoffs start

Definitely. Its a strong possibility that a veteran finds himself in the same spot as PJ Brown and Sam Cassell did this year. If that is the case, then yes they will find space on their roster at the expense of one of the rookies but to start the season, I really feel confident in saying that Danny and Doc are confident in these guys making contributions early because of their athleticism and energy.

I don't know if they expect anything early, but I imagine they felt these were 2 guys too talented to pass on if we want to remain competitive over the next 4+ years.

[Riles335]

that would be ok plus the roster space for a big man(pj comin out of retirement again) when we near playoffs.. these 2 rookies could still be part of our roster but i wont be surprised if they are on the IL when the playoffs start

Definitely. Its a strong possibility that a veteran finds himself in the same spot as PJ Brown and Sam Cassell did this year. If that is the case, then yes they will find space on their roster at the expense of one of the rookies but to start the season, I really feel confident in saying that Danny and Doc are confident in these guys making contributions early because of their athleticism and energy.

I don't know if they expect anything early, but I imagine they felt these were 2 guys too talented to pass on if we want to remain competitive over the next 4+ years.

Well Doc has already said he expects Giddens to contribute right away due to his athleticism and his defensive abilities. Those are strong words and with the recent success of young drafted Celtics, it would be no surprise to see them contribute as well.

As for Walker, I see him being a contributer like Powe. Small and few contributions but steady improvement in his first year and makes stronger contributions in his second year. This kid is a monster in and around the hoop:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz7d59aeOkQ

[WBrownTrophy]

Bottom Line: We NEED to resign Posey...if not for our own team, so no other team can snatch him up and possibly hurt us in the future... he was cold blooded in the most pressure filled moments...you don't teach that.

[xmuscularghandix]

what do you guys think of the antoine walker rumor that was around last year? him being interested in signing the league minimum to finish his career in boston and play a bench/veteran leadership role both on and off the court. i think if he worked hard to get in shape (he says hes not out of shape) he could fill the pj brown role.

http://celticsthug.wordpress.com/2007/10/25/antoine-walker-wants-to-be-a-celtic/

[BudweiserCeltic]

I'm still on the fence about the Posey situation. I'd love to see him back, but we might be better served spending the MLE between Barnes and a Center.

You know, I think this will all come down to how the Center market is playing and the level of interest from the Celtics in them. If they think the can get a useful one for very cheap, they'll spend on Posey, if they think they need to give a bit of cash, they'll look for a cheaper replacement for Posey.

Let's see.

I'm still hoping that we can sign Posey with something else other than the MLE... but doubt it. We should be able to make trades though, and if we can get a capable Center that way, then go for Posey all the way.

[BudweiserCeltic]

what do you guys think of the antoine walker rumor that was around last year? him being interested in signing the league minimum to finish his career in boston and play a bench/veteran leadership role both on and off the court. i think if he worked hard to get in shape (he says hes not out of shape) he could fill the pj brown role.

http://celticsthug.wordpress.com/2007/10/25/antoine-walker-wants-to-be-a-celtic/

Celticsthug, that's all I'm saying.

[Actionjakson]

Well Doc has already said he expects Giddens to contribute right away due to his athleticism and his defensive abilities. Those are strong words and with the recent success of young drafted Celtics, it would be no surprise to see them contribute as well.

As for Walker, I see him being a contributer like Powe. Small and few contributions but steady improvement in his first year and makes stronger contributions in his second year. This kid is a monster in and around the hoop:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz7d59aeOkQ

I agree with both these statements. In two years i think Walker will be a beast off the bench and Giddens will be what everyone thought Tony Allen could be (a defensive stopper and slasher of the bench).
P.S. that is a sick Bill Walker video