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Re: So our current/future roster
« Reply #30 on: June 27, 2008, 10:23:34 AM »

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What about re-signing Posey, House, and Tony. And Sam, PJ, and Scot will all be gone.
-Then trade Tony Allen, Big Baby, and Scal for Joel Przybilla. We do it because we get a veteran backup center. And they do it because they are already overloaded w/ big men and they get a few young players in Tony and Davis.
-Then we could sign Ryan Gomes or Antoine Walker. Ryan would be for the future and Antoine would be a towel waiver.
-And sign Tyronne Lue to be the backup PG and fight for PT with House.

That leaves us with:
C-Perkins/Przybilla/Erden
PF-Garnett/Powe/AWalker or Gomes
SF-Pierce/Posey/BWalker
SG-Allen//House/Giddens
PG-Rondo/Lue/Pruitt

Then in the future:
C-Perkins
PF-Powe/Gomes?
SF-BWalker
SG-Giddens
PG-Rondo/Pruitt
Walker is not coming back. Gomes is not coming back. And our 60th pick is staying overseas. You can't trade Tony Allen either, he's a free agent. Just in case you wondered.
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Re: So our current/future roster
« Reply #31 on: June 27, 2008, 10:32:24 AM »

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What about re-signing Posey, House, and Tony. And Sam, PJ, and Scot will all be gone.
-Then trade Tony Allen, Big Baby, and Scal for Joel Przybilla. We do it because we get a veteran backup center. And they do it because they are already overloaded w/ big men and they get a few young players in Tony and Davis.
-Then we could sign Ryan Gomes or Antoine Walker. Ryan would be for the future and Antoine would be a towel waiver.
-And sign Tyronne Lue to be the backup PG and fight for PT with House.

That leaves us with:
C-Perkins/Przybilla/Erden
PF-Garnett/Powe/AWalker or Gomes
SF-Pierce/Posey/BWalker
SG-Allen//House/Giddens
PG-Rondo/Lue/Pruitt

Then in the future:
C-Perkins
PF-Powe/Gomes?
SF-BWalker
SG-Giddens
PG-Rondo/Pruitt
Walker is not coming back. Gomes is not coming back. And our 60th pick is staying overseas. You can't trade Tony Allen either, he's a free agent. Just in case you wondered.
We could re-sign Tony then trade him so we can get something for him. And the walker/gomes is just some options we could have, but there are other options at that position.

Re: So our current/future roster
« Reply #32 on: June 27, 2008, 10:36:06 AM »

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What is Pollard's status?  I sort of forgot about him until someone mentioned him a few posts back.  If he can stay healthy (obviously a big if), he's fine in the backup center role.  Is he still under contract?
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Re: So our current/future roster
« Reply #33 on: June 27, 2008, 10:39:09 AM »

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What is Pollard's status?  I sort of forgot about him until someone mentioned him a few posts back.  If he can stay healthy (obviously a big if), he's fine in the backup center role.  Is he still under contract?

I'm fine with him myself, though surely try to get someone better. But if he's all that we'd end up getting, I'd be fine with it. I think the Celtics should have a good idea of where he's at health wise.

Re: So our current/future roster
« Reply #34 on: June 27, 2008, 10:45:58 AM »

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Question: Can we keep more than 15 players if we stash one or two in the Developmental League?

If so, here is how I see our roster shaking out:

Definites (10):
KG
PP
Ray Ray
Rondo
Perk
Powe
Davis
Pruitt
Scals (under contract, unfortuntely)
Giddens (1st round, guaranteed)

Re-signed (4):
Posey
House (proved his worth in post-season)
PJ (NEED a back-up center)
TAllen (Doc says he's back)

Free Agent (1):
Tyronn Lue

Makes team (1)
Walker(maybe stashed in D-League)


For a total of 16 players. 12 active, 2-3 in suits, 1-2 in D-League


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Re: So our current/future roster
« Reply #35 on: June 27, 2008, 10:55:05 AM »

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What about re-signing Posey, House, and Tony. And Sam, PJ, and Scot will all be gone.
-Then trade Tony Allen, Big Baby, and Scal for Joel Przybilla. We do it because we get a veteran backup center. And they do it because they are already overloaded w/ big men and they get a few young players in Tony and Davis.
-Then we could sign Ryan Gomes or Antoine Walker. Ryan would be for the future and Antoine would be a towel waiver.
-And sign Tyronne Lue to be the backup PG and fight for PT with House.

That leaves us with:
C-Perkins/Przybilla/Erden
PF-Garnett/Powe/AWalker or Gomes
SF-Pierce/Posey/BWalker
SG-Allen//House/Giddens
PG-Rondo/Lue/Pruitt

Then in the future:
C-Perkins
PF-Powe/Gomes?
SF-BWalker
SG-Giddens
PG-Rondo/Pruitt
Walker is not coming back. Gomes is not coming back. And our 60th pick is staying overseas. You can't trade Tony Allen either, he's a free agent. Just in case you wondered.
We could re-sign Tony then trade him so we can get something for him. And the walker/gomes is just some options we could have, but there are other options at that position.
Allen is a restricted free agent. Which means someone has to make him an offer, which has to be at the right price, and then we have to match.

I am not even going to question why Portland will pass over Przybilla for a pile of spare parts that (a) do not address a specific need and (b) does not offer a talent upgrade. They don't need "a few young players" -- they already have enough, and all of them are better than whatever we can offer.
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Re: So our current/future roster
« Reply #36 on: June 27, 2008, 11:01:42 AM »

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Question: Can we keep more than 15 players if we stash one or two in the Developmental League?

If so, here is how I see our roster shaking out:

Definites (10):
KG
PP
Ray Ray
Rondo
Perk
Powe
Davis
Pruitt
Scals (under contract, unfortuntely)
Giddens (1st round, guaranteed)

Re-signed (4):
Posey
House (proved his worth in post-season)
PJ (NEED a back-up center)
TAllen (Doc says he's back)

Free Agent (1):
Tyronn Lue

Makes team (1)
Walker(maybe stashed in D-League)


For a total of 16 players. 12 active, 2-3 in suits, 1-2 in D-League




Fifteen players max includes D-League players.

Also, Doc is saying he'd like everyone back.  Who wouldn't?   He just won the championship. Doc also knows it's a business.  TA staying will probably depend a bit more on whether Posey and House are resigned, as well as how Giddens and Walker project, than Doc's comments to the media.

Re: So our current/future roster
« Reply #37 on: June 27, 2008, 11:35:19 AM »

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I like the idea of J.R. Giddens playing for the Celtics. The more I think about it, the more I like it. He is an insane rebounder, he look like he has speed and strength and can defend. I think the reason he was billed so low was because of his off-court "issues." If he can keep a good head on his shoulders, then he will contribute well to this team. It's funny how the draft works, for a top 10 pick, so much is expected from them and some people are let down because of expectation failure, and 20-30 picks can surprise us all (Rondo, Powe, Big Baby and Perk come to mind). We don't expect much from him and that's a good thing, he'll probably play harder to get minutes and earn respect and love, but putting on the Celtics jersey, he's half-way there.

As for free agency, I think Posey will be back and Danny will make the necessary adjustments to keep him. Also, I hope we keep Eddie House, but it seems pretty doubtful. Tony Allen will probably be gone as well as Pollard, Cassell and P.J. Cassell will probably go somewhere else, Pollard will be waived, and P.J. will probably retire. As for Tony Allen, he might go somewhere else so the Celtics can make room for another scorer and a backup center. As for Scal, I don't know, he's under contract but I can see the Celtics trading him, maybe, I don't know how that works.

I'm happy with our roster, so I guess will see how it works out. I just hope we can keep Posey, House and our new guy, J.R. Giddens. Welcome to the family J.R.

Re: So our current/future roster
« Reply #38 on: June 27, 2008, 11:40:18 AM »

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What is Pollard's status?  I sort of forgot about him until someone mentioned him a few posts back.  If he can stay healthy (obviously a big if), he's fine in the backup center role.  Is he still under contract?
talking about "Highway Robbery",i would have forgotten him to,but i see him on Comcast doing his "Planet Pollard Show",all the time.He has made out bigtime in Green. ;D

Re: So our current/future roster
« Reply #39 on: June 27, 2008, 11:58:58 AM »

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Question: Can we keep more than 15 players if we stash one or two in the Developmental League?

If so, here is how I see our roster shaking out:

Definites (10):
KG
PP
Ray Ray
Rondo
Perk
Powe
Davis
Pruitt
Scals (under contract, unfortuntely)
Giddens (1st round, guaranteed)

Re-signed (4):
Posey
House (proved his worth in post-season)
PJ (NEED a back-up center)
TAllen (Doc says he's back)

Free Agent (1):
Tyronn Lue

Makes team (1)
Walker(maybe stashed in D-League)


For a total of 16 players. 12 active, 2-3 in suits, 1-2 in D-League




Tony Allen is more than likely gone.  Chances are they will look for a sign and trade with him, but with Walker and Giddens (who both would be making significantly less money), he is redundant.

And chances are they will either keep House, or sign another PG, not both.  Pruitt will be 3rd string next year.

So that leaves them at 14...which is exactly where they want to be (so there is room for a late season signing).


Re: So our current/future roster
« Reply #40 on: June 27, 2008, 12:07:59 PM »

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1. These picks tell me TA is gone.
2. We will probably leave Walker in the D-League to let him regain his confidence in his knee.
3. We didn't have a real backup until PJ signed late.  Pollard barely played so we dont need to freak out about being small until later in the season.
4. Anyone remember what our roster looked like after last draft?  There is no way this roster is set. No Way

Re: So our current/future roster
« Reply #41 on: June 27, 2008, 12:37:13 PM »

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What about sending Walker and TA's contract to Jersey for one of their excess bigs?

Rondo - House
Allen - Giddens
Pierce - Posey
Garnett - Powe
Perkins - Diop

Davis, Scalabrine, and Pruitt can keep Doc company.
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Re: So our current/future roster
« Reply #42 on: June 27, 2008, 12:45:37 PM »

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nice walker/welss comparison.


Perk   BBD    Pollard  (inactive)
KG     Powe    Scal (inactive)
Pierce  Posey   Walker  (inactive)
RAllen  TAllen  Giddens
Rondo  House   Pruitt


If PJ comes back, we waive Pollard.  Cassell walks. 


We are now very deep and young.  Adding a backup center that is at least 6-10 is the main focus for next offseason. 
I think this works for the most part.  Exchange Pollard for Free Agent Big Man (could be PJ again).  Would also make him active and Giddens inactive (in D league) to start the season.  Keeps the same roster for consistancy.  

One other item to consider for everyone concerned about selecting 2 wing players this time---the C's have no #1 pick next year so this is the time to get some youth.  Add in the fact Ray is an expiring contract after this coming year makes him great trade bait for a good big under contract for a couple of years longer than Ray.  Ray and Scal as expirings in the same deal frees up a lot of money for another team so don't be surprised if it happens.  

The new wings can take this year getting their feet wet in the league to step in a year later.  Consider a pretty solid and young core of players in the 1-3 spots in Rondo, Pruitt, TA, Giddens, Walker.  Very solid potential there as PP heads towards retirement in 4-5 years.

Re: So our current/future roster
« Reply #43 on: June 27, 2008, 12:59:50 PM »

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TA is gone IMO.

Re: So our current/future roster
« Reply #44 on: June 27, 2008, 01:03:42 PM »

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OK, here's another question:

Let's say we re-sign Posey, House, TAllen and PJ/other backup center. Bill Walker makes the team. That puts us at the 15 player max.

So what if we want to add another player? Tyrone Lue? whoever......

Can we just outright cut Scalabrine, even though he is under contract? I understand that he would still count against the cap, but how would that affect our ability to use his expiring contract in 09/10?
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