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Re: So our current/future roster
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2008, 09:17:35 AM »

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Wow -

How did this guy fall to us at 47? And what did we trade to the Wiz to get that pick?
Looking at the video, he reminds me of Pierce - especially on the fake set shot and drive to the hoop.

Re: So our current/future roster
« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2008, 09:21:18 AM »

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Because I see Posey and House both resigning this off-season, I find it doubtful that the Celtics will be any real players in the Free Agent market. Possibly a veteran but in my mind with the roster we have now, I feel confident that the Celtics will stand pat. This is what I see going into next year:

PG Rondo - House - Pruitt
SG Allen - Giddens
SF Pierce - Posey - Walker
PF Garnett - Davis - Scalabrine(Non Active)
C Perkins - Powe

There the Celtics have twelve active players. I really see both Giddens and Walker being ready to contribute but if the Celtics do add a free agency, that would raise questions what they plan to do with a guy like Walker but I'm confident he will make contributions to this club right away. As far as Free Agency, I doubt that the Celtics are looking to go that route and I feel that they think that Walker is a guy who can come in right away, along with Giddens, because the fact that they spent money on acquiring Walker despite already being over the luxury tax.

That though(pending on Posey and House) looks like a very sturdy roster and I'm really happy with the way things are looking.


we have a severely lacking front line thats undersized... our solution this year was pj brown... but what about next year?

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Re: So our current/future roster
« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2008, 09:25:00 AM »

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How is everyone comfortable with being so small? With that lineup, if Perk gets injured or in foul trouble, we're done for.


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« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2008, 09:25:06 AM »

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I'm not very worried about the front line.  They have 4 man rotation of KG,Baby,Powe and Perkins.  They might want to add someone but, Posey can play PF as well.  I think Danny just pulled another few gems.

Giddens 8.8 rbs for SG that's sick.
Walker is younger Bonzi Wells.
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« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2008, 09:28:28 AM »

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love the picks.
its funny how getting KG and Ray Allen last year give me the utmost confidence in Danny's abilities to draft this year.

What i wanted coming into the draft was one of two things either a player with size to replace PJ, or wing players who could limit Pierce and Allen's minuted during the regular season. 

While I was hoping for CDR initially I am happy with JR Giddens (probably the greatest JR to play for the Celtics since Bremer).  If he can come in play some D and provide the 2nd unit with some wing scoring I would be more than happy.

Bill Walker is a huge upside guy and hopefully with some minutes in the D League and a role on the end of the bench he can develop into a scorer.

The biggest difference between picking at the bottom of the round and picking at the top of the round is the level of expectations on the players.  We dont need players to come in, dominate scoring or rebounding.  Instead solid rotation guys will do.  Man do I love being a Celtics fan right about now

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« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2008, 09:50:58 AM »

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nice walker/welss comparison.


Perk   BBD    Pollard  (inactive)
KG     Powe    Scal (inactive)
Pierce  Posey   Walker  (inactive)
RAllen  TAllen  Giddens
Rondo  House   Pruitt


If PJ comes back, we waive Pollard.  Cassell walks. 


We are now very deep and young.  Adding a backup center that is at least 6-10 is the main focus for next offseason. 

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« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2008, 09:55:09 AM »

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How is everyone comfortable with being so small? With that lineup, if Perk gets injured or in foul trouble, we're done for.
I don't get it either.  I just can't understand why everyone is comfortable, and frankly I have no idea why the C's went with two wings in the draft (and a center who will stay overseas).  The C's didn't need wings, they needed big men.  I can see adding one wing in case Posey and T. Allen leave, but certainly not two, and taking a guy at 30 that more than likely would have been there at 40 seems incredibly silly to me. 
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« Reply #22 on: June 27, 2008, 09:56:03 AM »

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The Celtics FA to do list is the same as it was entering the draft (no surprise -- draft is for the future, FA is for the present):
0. resign Posey;
1. backup vet big man (Skinner?);
2. backup PG (resign House?)
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« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2008, 10:00:33 AM »

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How is everyone comfortable with being so small? With that lineup, if Perk gets injured or in foul trouble, we're done for.
I don't get it either.  I just can't understand why everyone is comfortable, and frankly I have no idea why the C's went with two wings in the draft (and a center who will stay overseas).  The C's didn't need wings, they needed big men.  I can see adding one wing in case Posey and T. Allen leave, but certainly not two, and taking a guy at 30 that more than likely would have been there at 40 seems incredibly silly to me. 

I have to ask because I see the types posts and wonder how you know Giddens would have been there at 40?  Some people had him going earlier than 30.  And since you're so concerned about the front line who at #60 would have helped next year?  You just mentioned them going overseas so they would have had to find another big through FA anyway. 
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« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2008, 10:03:09 AM »

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The Celtics FA to do list is the same as it was entering the draft (no surprise -- draft is for the future, FA is for the present):
0. resign Posey;
1. backup vet big man (Skinner?);
2. backup PG (resign House?)

i agree with this...and it's not like the rest of the nba went out and made themselves better.  the celtics will be the odds-on-favorite again next season.  the nets got worse, as did the pacers...milwaukee made lateral moves...cleveland, detroit, and atlanta remain the same.  nothing really changed last night.

the key is posey...and i believe the celtics may use big baby as trade fodder for a backup center.

also, if pruitt can continue to develop we may have solved problem #3 on your to-do list.  and that would be a huge benefit as it's money saved for posey / backup center.

i'm not concerned...nor am i complacent.  i just believe that no one got better and with the additions of the two draft picks, we may have actually improved.
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« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2008, 10:03:55 AM »

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How is everyone comfortable with being so small? With that lineup, if Perk gets injured or in foul trouble, we're done for.
I don't get it either.  I just can't understand why everyone is comfortable, and frankly I have no idea why the C's went with two wings in the draft (and a center who will stay overseas).  The C's didn't need wings, they needed big men.  I can see adding one wing in case Posey and T. Allen leave, but certainly not two, and taking a guy at 30 that more than likely would have been there at 40 seems incredibly silly to me. 

They didn't go with two wings. They went with one wing and bought the other. Huge difference.

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« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2008, 10:08:34 AM »

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Because I see Posey and House both resigning this off-season, I find it doubtful that the Celtics will be any real players in the Free Agent market. Possibly a veteran but in my mind with the roster we have now, I feel confident that the Celtics will stand pat. This is what I see going into next year:

PG Rondo - House - Pruitt
SG Allen - Giddens
SF Pierce - Posey - Walker
PF Garnett - Davis - Scalabrine(Non Active)
C Perkins - Powe

There the Celtics have twelve active players. I really see both Giddens and Walker being ready to contribute but if the Celtics do add a free agency, that would raise questions what they plan to do with a guy like Walker but I'm confident he will make contributions to this club right away. As far as Free Agency, I doubt that the Celtics are looking to go that route and I feel that they think that Walker is a guy who can come in right away, along with Giddens, because the fact that they spent money on acquiring Walker despite already being over the luxury tax.

That though(pending on Posey and House) looks like a very sturdy roster and I'm really happy with the way things are looking.


we have a severely lacking front line thats undersized... our solution this year was pj brown... but what about next year?

I believe Danny plans to address the backup Center position through the free agent market.  That's a very important position that he would prefer not to fill through the draft, given our drafting position.  The back up Center position should be filled by a smart veteran who has a lot of playoff experience.  Danny will most likely hold a roster spot for the right veteran to come along.  No need to fill up the roster and hand out contracts this early, unless that right veteran comes along.

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« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2008, 10:16:10 AM »

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What about re-signing Posey, House, and Tony. And Sam, PJ, and Scot will all be gone.
-Then trade Tony Allen, Big Baby, and Scal for Joel Przybilla. We do it because we get a veteran backup center. And they do it because they are already overloaded w/ big men and they get a few young players in Tony and Davis.
-Then we could sign Ryan Gomes or Antoine Walker. Ryan would be for the future and Antoine would be a towel waiver.
-And sign Tyronne Lue to be the backup PG and fight for PT with House.

That leaves us with:
C-Perkins/Przybilla/Erden
PF-Garnett/Powe/AWalker or Gomes
SF-Pierce/Posey/BWalker
SG-Allen//House/Giddens
PG-Rondo/Lue/Pruitt

Then in the future:
C-Perkins
PF-Powe/Gomes?
SF-BWalker
SG-Giddens
PG-Rondo/Pruitt

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« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2008, 10:19:12 AM »

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I'm really not that worried about our frontline. The only contending team in the East that's got a sizable frontline is Cleveland. I really like our roster, though I think it's going to change.

Re: So our current/future roster
« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2008, 10:21:25 AM »

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The problem is, there isn't a center at 30 who can step in and help right away. As a matter of fact, I am not sure there's a center in the entire draft that's ready to contribute to a contending team. Which makes getting us a C through the FA market a no-brainer.

Giddens and Walker, OTOH come to a perfect situation where we're not extremely deep, young, or athletic at the swingman position -- but where one of them will be able to get some minutes with another experienced wing on the floor. Let's face it, Tony Allen is the only SG/SF we have under 30, and that's not much at all.

The thing is, at both PG and C we have adequate options. House, Cassell, Pollard and PJ will not blow your mind away, but can contribute positively. At least 2 of the said 4 can be brought back.

Tony Allen? Not so much. We've seen him go from a solid rotation player to a non-factor in less than half a season, and paradoxically he's been getting worse rather than getting better as the season progressed and he supposedly recovered from injury.

This is not to say that we should scrap Tony immediately, but I think there is space on this roster for at least Giddens to make some noise in the regular season. Especially if he's going to play solid defense.
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