Will Tony Allen finally see minutes against the Pistons? He should

[rondohondo]

This would be the series to use Tony Allen in, cut Ray's minutes to about 30 a game and let Tony Allen start games by chasing Rip Hamilton around those screens for a majority of the first quarter, then come in with put in Ray with 5 or 4 minutes left in the 1st.The reason think we would be better off starting TA against the Pistons is because there is no way Ray is going to keep up  with Hamilton on those ankles and if he's playing 40 mins a game, he will get tired out and have no legs for jump shots.

Please Doc cut Rays minutes to 30 a game and let him get his offense going against tired 1st stringers or the Pistons bench

[Jon]

But why play Tony Allen at all?  Even if Ray's minutes are cut to 30 a game, Posey can still handle those minutes and whatever is left at the SF spot too.  Posey's clearly the better player and better defender, so it just doesn't make sense to give Allen's who's proven to be turnover prone any minutes. 

Also, I wouldn't be so anxious to cut Ray's minutes.  He did a nice job on Hamilton in the last game of the regular season.  Plus, the last thing we need to do is destroy his confidence.  We'll need him if we're gonna bring home #17. 

[wdleehi]

No.


Decrease Rays minutes. 


Give the minutes to Posey. 

[CoachBo]

Ditto.

Posey gets Ray's minutes. No need for Tony Allen at all.

[EJPLAYA]

Put Rondo on Hamilton and put Ray on Billups.

[rondohondo]

But why play Tony Allen at all?  Even if Ray's minutes are cut to 30 a game, Posey can still handle those minutes and whatever is left at the SF spot too.  Posey's clearly the better player and better defender, so it just doesn't make sense to give Allen's who's proven to be turnover prone any minutes. 

Also, I wouldn't be so anxious to cut Ray's minutes.  He did a nice job on Hamilton in the last game of the regular season.  Plus, the last thing we need to do is destroy his confidence.  We'll need him if we're gonna bring home #17. 

I say Tony Allen at SG because do you really want paul pierce and ray allen chasing Hamilton everywhere and killing their legs. Paul isn't quick enough to stay with Hamilton anyways. I suppose we could have Ray Allen on Billiups and Rondo on Hamilton , but Tony should be allowed to play defense for a good solid 10 mins a game in this series

[Jon]

But why play Tony Allen at all?  Even if Ray's minutes are cut to 30 a game, Posey can still handle those minutes and whatever is left at the SF spot too.  Posey's clearly the better player and better defender, so it just doesn't make sense to give Allen's who's proven to be turnover prone any minutes. 

Also, I wouldn't be so anxious to cut Ray's minutes.  He did a nice job on Hamilton in the last game of the regular season.  Plus, the last thing we need to do is destroy his confidence.  We'll need him if we're gonna bring home #17. 

I say Tony Allen at SG because do you really want paul pierce and ray allen chasing Hamilton everywhere and killing their legs. Paul isn't quick enough to stay with Hamilton anyways. I suppose we could have Ray Allen on Billiups and Rondo on Hamilton , but Tony should be allowed to play defense for a good solid 10 mins a game in this series

Well, one of them is going to be chasing him unless you think that Doc is going to not start Ray Allen, which isn't happening.  Thus, the whole Tony Allen argument goes away, because if we're talking about subs, we might as well just let Posey do it. 

[greenhead85]

There's no tall and dominant sh.ooting guard like Lebron and Joe Johnson. TA will match up well against Rip or Chauncey. I guess he, Ray and Rondo will rotate against the Pistons guards. I believe we have the advantage at the guard position, defensively and offensively. Rondo and TA will make the Pistons guards gasp with their youth and athleticism.
I just hope Doc won't miss this guard advantage we have.

[EJPLAYA]

But why play Tony Allen at all?  Even if Ray's minutes are cut to 30 a game, Posey can still handle those minutes and whatever is left at the SF spot too.  Posey's clearly the better player and better defender, so it just doesn't make sense to give Allen's who's proven to be turnover prone any minutes. 

Also, I wouldn't be so anxious to cut Ray's minutes.  He did a nice job on Hamilton in the last game of the regular season.  Plus, the last thing we need to do is destroy his confidence.  We'll need him if we're gonna bring home #17. 

I say Tony Allen at SG because do you really want paul pierce and ray allen chasing Hamilton everywhere and killing their legs. Paul isn't quick enough to stay with Hamilton anyways. I suppose we could have Ray Allen on Billiups and Rondo on Hamilton , but Tony should be allowed to play defense for a good solid 10 mins a game in this series

Let's put TA in right at the end so Billups can give him a nice up-fake again...

Stupid players should not be put on savvy veterans! TA should sit unless it is against the second unit. He can not have ANY offense whatsoever at this point with all the time he sat, and his defense is based on athleticism not smarts. He hasn't regained that athleticism fully so he doesn't really give you much out there compared to the huge turnovers he always commits.

[Who]

I'm not sure I have much use for Tony Allen on Rip Hamilton. Rip's very smart, he'd find a way to beat Tony. Especially with his extra length coming off of screens.

That said I'd like to see how Posey does first, we haven't seen Posey defend players like Rip much (ever?) over the course of the season. Posey has only really defended forwards.

I think Tony Allen is the team's best defensive option on Billups. Billups has some tricks no doubt, but he's still the guy dribbling the ball 25 feet from the rim and creating everything. It'll be easier for Tony to stay with him than Rip. Rip will be running every which way off screens, curls, backdoor plays, elbow action, then on the perimeter. I'm not sure I have enough faith in Tony to defend that. Chauncey will spend a huge amount of the time up top and the majority of his effectiveness comes on the ball being in his hands with the defense in front of him. For me his playing time is only to defend Chauncey or none at all.

I'm not sure I want Tony on the floor period. Tony Allen playing means James Posey playing power forward. I like where the team is at right now.

I'm not that enthusiastic about the idea of Tony playing this coming series. We'll see, not in game one anyway, see how Billups does and how Posey/Pierce defend Rip.

[wdleehi]

I think Posey is the better defender to use on Rip.


If Rip comes off a screen, the big man can step in front of him, Posey is the best equipped swingman to pick up the big man. 

[crownsy]

posey is a much better choice.

sadly, tony's in ability to protect the basketball/ shoot a jumper will likely keep him out of this series as well, especially with posey playing so well.

[rondohondo]

posey is a much better choice.

sadly, tony's in ability to protect the basketball/ shoot a jumper will likely keep him out of this series as well, especially with posey playing so well.

Tony is not a horrible shooter, he shot 31% 3's for the year and his career, he can hit open 3's from the corner and he doesn't have to handle the ball with Paul or Rondo in there. Also Tony Allen hits the offensive boards which could come in handy...

[EJPLAYA]

posey is a much better choice.

sadly, tony's in ability to protect the basketball/ shoot a jumper will likely keep him out of this series as well, especially with posey playing so well.

Tony is not a horrible shooter, he shot 31% 3's for the year and his career, he can hit open 3's from the corner and he doesn't have to handle the ball with Paul or Rondo in there. Also Tony Allen hits the offensive boards which could come in handy...

Kind of a misleading stat when he hasn't hit a 3 pointer since the month of February! He's missed his last 32 three point attempts he has taken! Thanks, but no thanks!

[crownsy]

but one of his weaknesses is dribbling. which, by the way still amazes me, how can you be an nba guard and often lose the ball off your foot in traffic? the NBA: where fundamentals don't happen.

the kid averages 4 to's per 10 minutes on the floor. You can;t have that in a series against a team like detroit, even more so when, thanks to posey being a combo forward who can play the 2 with ease, there is no justifiable reason for it to happen.

posey just contained lebron james/ whoever Cleavland wanted to put at the 2 (wally, gibson, whoever.) Why would you take his minutes at the 2 away just to get TA involved? Posey is more than capable of gaurding rip hamalton and prince, and he hits the offensive boards just as hard as tony.

this isn't youth basketball, tony sits because there is a much better player available to do his job, and his name is james posey. I like tony allen, but i really don't see why we would now start giving a turnover prone,  offensive enigma minutes over a championship veteran in posey. just to make tony feel part of the team or something? no thanks.