Jaylen Traded to PHI for PG, 2 First Round Picks & 2 Second Round Picks

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NBA Central: NBA sources believe Jaylen Brown thinks he?s the smartest person in the room, per @colincowherd:

?I had two NBA sources ? two people in the league, one an executive, one a scout, say that Jaylen Brown has ? it?s a disease. He suddenly thinks he?s the smartest guy in every room he?s in ? You make a lot of money, suddenly you?re absolutely sure, you don?t wanna listen to your bosses, you don?t wanna listen to consultants, you don?t wanna listen to teammates.?

[Vermont Green]

I am not upset with Celtics management because they traded Brown.  But I only wanted to trade Brown if it made the team better.  No trade or non-trade can assure a title, but a trade can make your chances for a title better or worse.  In this case, as it stands now, this trade made a title less likely.  Heck, I would trade Tatum too if the trade made the team better.

It is not like this team is blowing it up and rebuilding.  They are a contending team.  I don't think it is too much to ask that they act like a contending team.  Trading your 2nd best player for a lesser player and future draft picks is not a contending team trade.

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Boston Globe

One league source said Boston?s brass agonized for days over the decision to trade Brown but eventually determined that acquiring valuable assets along with a nine-time All-Star in George offered the franchise its best path forward.

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PG is a two year experiment where they probably dump him after he opts in for his last year.

Yeah, that is how I see it. This is a 1 year period with PG13 and then he becomes an expiring contract. Then Brad will look to trade his expiring deal + the picks + BOS future picks to net a superstar back in return.

So next summer (12 months time) or the 2028 trade deadline (18 months time), Brad makes his move to put BOS back into title contention and sets BOS up to stay there for the remainder of Tatum's best years.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, that's interesting. What kind of return could Paul George bring back from a trade during his expiring year ?

Although, can't George make his final year a moot point by opting out and becoming a free agent, which would result in us losing him with zero return ?

I?m curious about this as well. I know an expiring contract makes it tradable, but not sure that teams give up big talent for it. Interested to know what others think. As to opting out, it would be a miracle. That would be PG leaving 10s of millions of dollars (maybe 50) on the table as no chance he?d get anything close as a FA.

They don't. The expiring contract by itself isn't worth that much. It is the ability to put a bunch of draft picks alongside it that gives you a strong overall trade package.

With the picks BOS has, that offer is good enough to net them a star player. Most likely whoever the next disgruntled star is who wants out from their situation.

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Boston Globe

But a league source stressed that this was not a cost-cutting transaction, and there was no directive from ownership to trade Brown.

Maybe we should stop blaming ownership and ...

Start looking more at Brad and the front office.

[LilRip]

Boston Globe

But a league source stressed that this was not a cost-cutting transaction, and there was no directive from ownership to trade Brown.

Maybe we should stop blaming ownership and ...

Start looking more at Brad and the front office.

It also kinda makes you wonder? why did they have to pull the trigger on this trade this early? The offseason is long. If PG, a pick and a swap was the best they could do, that offer likely would have been available next month or the month after that.

[Donoghus]

Boston Globe

But a league source stressed that this was not a cost-cutting transaction, and there was no directive from ownership to trade Brown.

Maybe we should stop blaming ownership and ...

Start looking more at Brad and the front office.

I'm not sure what the real story will be but, ultimately, ownership writes off on a decision like this.

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Lev Akabas

Regardless of where you fall on the Jaylen Brown debate, it is pretty remarkable that the Boston Celtics were better with him off the court than on the court over his entire 10-year tenure with the team

Yep. I don't understand how that can happen, statistically.

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NBA Central: NBA sources believe Jaylen Brown thinks he?s the smartest person in the room, per @colincowherd:

?I had two NBA sources ? two people in the league, one an executive, one a scout, say that Jaylen Brown has ? it?s a disease. He suddenly thinks he?s the smartest guy in every room he?s in ? You make a lot of money, suddenly you?re absolutely sure, you don?t wanna listen to your bosses, you don?t wanna listen to consultants, you don?t wanna listen to teammates.?

The only thing is that's always been Jaylen. I remember Jae Crowder laughing at the idea that Jaylen is really as smart as he thinks he is. It has never seemed like a catastrophic problem... until like a few weeks ago, maybe, or more precisely the last few days.

Maybe it really was a basketball decision. Maybe that stretch in the Atlanta Hawks game sealed it for Brad. Or the subsequent games when Jaylen did not in fact correct his errors.

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Boston Globe

But a league source stressed that this was not a cost-cutting transaction, and there was no directive from ownership to trade Brown.

Maybe we should stop blaming ownership and ...

Start looking more at Brad and the front office.

It also kinda makes you wonder? why did they have to pull the trigger on this trade this early? The offseason is long. If PG, a pick and a swap was the best they could do, that offer likely would have been available next month or the month after that.

I wondered also. But if they do plan on trying to swing PG and some picks later on making the deal now still allows them time to theoretically do another deal before the season starts. Not sure what deals would be out there though.

[Celtics2021]

Lev Akabas

Regardless of where you fall on the Jaylen Brown debate, it is pretty remarkable that the Boston Celtics were better with him off the court than on the court over his entire 10-year tenure with the team

Yep. I don't understand how that can happen, statistically.

Each of the top 11 players in minutes on the Celtics last year, other than Jaylen, had a higher net rating when they were not playing with him than when they were.  That was also true of every rotation player in the title year.

[goCeltics]

Lev Akabas

Regardless of where you fall on the Jaylen Brown debate, it is pretty remarkable that the Boston Celtics were better with him off the court than on the court over his entire 10-year tenure with the team

Yep. I don't understand how that can happen, statistically.

Each of the top 11 players in minutes on the Celtics last year, other than Jaylen, had a higher net rating when they were not playing with him than when they were.  That was also true of every rotation player in the title year.

Even if your premise is that he sucks, why give him the 280 million and put yourself in a position where you will be paying a corpse in PG 110 million the next couple of years? PG is 36 years old and has missed more games the last 2 years than he has played. Or perhaps I am missing something, like Genius Brad and the analytics department have conjured up some great panacea, and PG can play more than half the games this year.

[Celtics2021]

Lev Akabas

Regardless of where you fall on the Jaylen Brown debate, it is pretty remarkable that the Boston Celtics were better with him off the court than on the court over his entire 10-year tenure with the team

Yep. I don't understand how that can happen, statistically.

Each of the top 11 players in minutes on the Celtics last year, other than Jaylen, had a higher net rating when they were not playing with him than when they were.  That was also true of every rotation player in the title year.

Even if your premise is that he sucks, why give him the 280 million and put yourself in a position where you will be paying a corpse in PG 110 million the next couple of years? PG is 36 years old and has missed more games the last 2 years than he has played. Or perhaps I am missing something, like Genius Brad and the analytics department have conjured up some great panacea, and PG can play more than half the games this year.

It may very well have been a mistake to give him that contract a few year ago.  That does not mean the Celtics should not try to make a corrective decision today.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

NBA Central: NBA sources believe Jaylen Brown thinks he?s the smartest person in the room, per @colincowherd:

?I had two NBA sources ? two people in the league, one an executive, one a scout, say that Jaylen Brown has ? it?s a disease. He suddenly thinks he?s the smartest guy in every room he?s in ? You make a lot of money, suddenly you?re absolutely sure, you don?t wanna listen to your bosses, you don?t wanna listen to consultants, you don?t wanna listen to teammates.?

I may have something to say on the specifics of the trade later, but for now I'll say this about Brown: For a long time he has struck me as someone who thinks he's super smart but comes across as a pseudointellectual.

Quite a few fans and observers have had the view that he's smart because he plays chess, or because he went to Cal, but neither of those things is a surefire indication of high intelligence. Throw in his friendship with Kyrie, and Brown's seeming anti-Semitism (or maybe he's ?anti-Semitic adjacent?), and I don't see anything approaching ?highly intelligent thought leader.?

I also don't think he's particularly smart on the basketball court, as evidenced by his high turnover numbers and his obvious overconfidence in his dribbling ability.

For those reasons, I'm happy with him no longer being on the Celtics.

[goCeltics]

Lev Akabas

Regardless of where you fall on the Jaylen Brown debate, it is pretty remarkable that the Boston Celtics were better with him off the court than on the court over his entire 10-year tenure with the team

Yep. I don't understand how that can happen, statistically.

Each of the top 11 players in minutes on the Celtics last year, other than Jaylen, had a higher net rating when they were not playing with him than when they were.  That was also true of every rotation player in the title year.

Even if your premise is that he sucks, why give him the 280 million and put yourself in a position where you will be paying a corpse in PG 110 million the next couple of years? PG is 36 years old and has missed more games the last 2 years than he has played. Or perhaps I am missing something, like Genius Brad and the analytics department have conjured up some great panacea, and PG can play more than half the games this year.

It may very well have been a mistake to give him that contract a few year ago.  That does not mean the Celtics should not try to make a corrective decision today.

Some correction: it would have to be a hell of a mistake to have to resort to paying a washed-up all-star to watch games at a clip of 110+ million.