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Re: NBA 2026-27 offseason trades, signings & rumors
« Reply #675 on: Today at 01:53:23 PM »

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Not a lot left on the Center market.

Claxton--> Traded to Chicago
Sharpe--> Re-signed in Brooklyn
Stewart--> Traded to Memphis
R Williams--> Re-signed in Portland
Nurkic--> Re-signed in Utah
Ayton--> Opted in with Los Angeles
M Williams--> Re-signed with Phoenix
Porzingis--> Re-signed with Golden State
Horford--> Re-signed with Golden State
Reid--> Traded to Charlotte

Only guy left who really interests me at anywhere close to MLE is Mitchell Robinson.

And M Robinson is an injury prone guy who is almost as bad as Timelord. M Robinson's last 4 seasons are 60 games played, 17 games, 31 games, 59 games. A total of 167 games in 4 years. Roughly 50% of the available games.

I don't trust his body at all. I don't want to invest in him. He has played the lowest minutes of his career these past 2 years. He still looks gassed every game after playing only a few minutes. I don't think he can stay healthy particularly if he has to play more minutes moving forward.

M Robinson is the only remaining option on the FA market and it is a crap option.

The only other guy that I can think of in FA is Mamu.

Besides that, trade and TPE is really the only other avenue.
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Re: NBA 2026-27 offseason trades, signings & rumors
« Reply #676 on: Today at 01:54:06 PM »

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Just give Andre Drummond the minimum.

Wait for a better option further down the road. Probably FA again in 12 months time.

C: Queta, Drummond, L Garza

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« Reply #677 on: Today at 01:57:08 PM »

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Just give Andre Drummond the minimum.

Wait for a better option further down the road. Probably FA again in 12 months time.

C: Queta, Drummond, L Garza

Oh yeah, Drummond is an option too. I agree, not ideal, but you can't do much worse than him right now. Sad state of affairs
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« Reply #678 on: Today at 02:05:12 PM »

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Not a lot left on the Center market.

Claxton--> Traded to Chicago
Sharpe--> Re-signed in Brooklyn
Stewart--> Traded to Memphis
R Williams--> Re-signed in Portland
Nurkic--> Re-signed in Utah
Ayton--> Opted in with Los Angeles
M Williams--> Re-signed with Phoenix
Porzingis--> Re-signed with Golden State
Horford--> Re-signed with Golden State
Reid--> Traded to Charlotte

Only guy left who really interests me at anywhere close to MLE is Mitchell Robinson.

And M Robinson is an injury prone guy who is almost as bad as Timelord. M Robinson's last 4 seasons are 60 games played, 17 games, 31 games, 59 games. A total of 167 games in 4 years. Roughly 50% of the available games.

I don't trust his body at all. I don't want to invest in him. He has played the lowest minutes of his career these past 2 years. He still looks gassed every game after playing only a few minutes. I don't think he can stay healthy particularly if he has to play more minutes moving forward.

M Robinson is the only remaining option on the FA market and it is a crap option.

The only other guy that I can think of in FA is Mamu.

Besides that, trade and TPE is really the only other avenue.

Ya good call, forgot about Mamu. I'd be fine with him on something around the MLE, he was really good last year. He'd give you a different chnge of pace vs Queta, while Robinson is sort of similar to queta in some ways.

Mam was in the 88th percentiles last year in EPM, Robinson the 83rd. So these guys are impactful players.

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« Reply #679 on: Today at 02:08:25 PM »

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Not a lot left on the Center market.

Claxton--> Traded to Chicago
Sharpe--> Re-signed in Brooklyn
Stewart--> Traded to Memphis
R Williams--> Re-signed in Portland
Nurkic--> Re-signed in Utah
Ayton--> Opted in with Los Angeles
M Williams--> Re-signed with Phoenix
Porzingis--> Re-signed with Golden State
Horford--> Re-signed with Golden State
Reid--> Traded to Charlotte

Only guy left who really interests me at anywhere close to MLE is Mitchell Robinson.

And M Robinson is an injury prone guy who is almost as bad as Timelord. M Robinson's last 4 seasons are 60 games played, 17 games, 31 games, 59 games. A total of 167 games in 4 years. Roughly 50% of the available games.

I don't trust his body at all. I don't want to invest in him. He has played the lowest minutes of his career these past 2 years. He still looks gassed every game after playing only a few minutes. I don't think he can stay healthy particularly if he has to play more minutes moving forward.

M Robinson is the only remaining option on the FA market and it is a crap option.

The only other guy that I can think of in FA is Mamu.

Besides that, trade and TPE is really the only other avenue.

Ya good call, forgot about Mamu. I'd be fine with him on something around the MLE, he was really good last year.

Mamu's defense is worse than Vucevic's defense. People are going to hate Mamu once they see him try to defend someone like Embiid in the playoffs or try and fail to protect the basket as a shot-blocker.

San Antonio got rid of Mamu because he could not play defense. That is why they brought in Kornet.

Toronto benched Mamu in the playoffs because he couldn't defend anyone or play useful team defense. They went small with the rookie forward at center over playing Mamu.

Mamu is a good offensive player with terrible defense. Much like Luka Garza.

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« Reply #680 on: Today at 02:16:36 PM »

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Not a lot left on the Center market.

Claxton--> Traded to Chicago
Sharpe--> Re-signed in Brooklyn
Stewart--> Traded to Memphis
R Williams--> Re-signed in Portland
Nurkic--> Re-signed in Utah
Ayton--> Opted in with Los Angeles
M Williams--> Re-signed with Phoenix
Porzingis--> Re-signed with Golden State
Horford--> Re-signed with Golden State
Reid--> Traded to Charlotte

Only guy left who really interests me at anywhere close to MLE is Mitchell Robinson.

And M Robinson is an injury prone guy who is almost as bad as Timelord. M Robinson's last 4 seasons are 60 games played, 17 games, 31 games, 59 games. A total of 167 games in 4 years. Roughly 50% of the available games.

I don't trust his body at all. I don't want to invest in him. He has played the lowest minutes of his career these past 2 years. He still looks gassed every game after playing only a few minutes. I don't think he can stay healthy particularly if he has to play more minutes moving forward.

M Robinson is the only remaining option on the FA market and it is a crap option.

The only other guy that I can think of in FA is Mamu.

Besides that, trade and TPE is really the only other avenue.

Ya good call, forgot about Mamu. I'd be fine with him on something around the MLE, he was really good last year.

Mamu's defense is worse than Vucevic's defense. People are going to hate Mamu once they see him try to defend someone like Embiid in the playoffs or try and fail to protect the basket as a shot-blocker.

San Antonio got rid of Mamu because he could not play defense. That is why they brought in Kornet.

Toronto benched Mamu in the playoffs because he couldn't defend anyone or play useful team defense. They went small with the rookie forward at center over playing Mamu.

Mamu is a good offensive player with terrible defense. Much like Luka Garza.

Maybe he's that bad, but looking at defensive EPM it had him MUCH better rated than either Garza (10th percentile) or Vucevic (41st). EPM actually had him as a better than average defender. It had him in the 70th percentile.

Now of course EPM isn't everything, but it doesn't paint him as some horrible defender.

In any case I think i role would be more change of pace backup for Queta, so the defense thing bothers me less.

DARKO and LEBRON (two other respected advanced metrics) also had him as a positive defender last year, much better than either Garza or Vucevic.

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« Reply #681 on: Today at 02:18:38 PM »

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Kelly Iko: Jock Landale?s new one-year, $14 million deal to return to Atlanta is fully guaranteed, sources tell @YahooSports .

Jeez. $14million for Landale.

Is he even an middle of the pack backup center?

I would thought below average ... I would have guessed around 20th among backup centers. So 50th out of 60 rotation centers (starters + main backups). Why are you giving him $14mil which is basically MLE money. Money for an average player. Someone ranked around 30th at their position.

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« Reply #682 on: Today at 02:20:39 PM »

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Going to take the full 15 mill to get a center it appears.

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« Reply #683 on: Today at 02:26:47 PM »

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Going to take the full 15 mill to get a center it appears.

It's worth noting that if the C's wanted to they could have DECLINED Queta's option making him a RFA then come to an agreement on a new deal essentially using some of their available space under the tax to extend him early and lessen the price in future years. They didn't elect to do so.

That should tell us that they have some plan to use either the MLE or an equivalent amount of the TPE on some player. Not sure who it going to be, but I'd imagine they have some target in the 10-15 million dollar range (up to 25 million if they trade Hauser).

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« Reply #684 on: Today at 02:27:28 PM »

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Going to take the full 15 mill to get a center it appears.

What center? There isn't anybody left. We could have had Stewart of Claxton for nothing. I'm hoping we just go for Simons at this point. At least he is worth that money and would be more than just salary filler in a future trade. Giving Jock Landale $14M is legit crazy

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« Reply #685 on: Today at 02:39:25 PM »

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Going to take the full 15 mill to get a center it appears.

What center? There isn't anybody left. We could have had Stewart of Claxton for nothing. I'm hoping we just go for Simons at this point. At least he is worth that money and would be more than just salary filler in a future trade. Giving Jock Landale $14M is legit crazy

I would use the majority on the best guy you think is out there no matter the position.

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« Reply #686 on: Today at 02:48:17 PM »

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Going to take the full 15 mill to get a center it appears.

It's worth noting that if the C's wanted to they could have DECLINED Queta's option making him a RFA then come to an agreement on a new deal essentially using some of their available space under the tax to extend him early and lessen the price in future years. They didn't elect to do so.

That should tell us that they have some plan to use either the MLE or an equivalent amount of the TPE on some player. Not sure who it going to be, but I'd imagine they have some target in the 10-15 million dollar range (up to 25 million if they trade Hauser).

It is moot now, because Queta had his option picked up, but just to clarify, as you have gotten this detail incorrect before, Queta was not RFA-eligible.  He has 5 years of service time.  RFAs are only three or fewer years, except for 1st-rounders coming off their 4th year of a rookie deal.  In any case, it is not 5 years as Queta has.

It is possible that the Celtics did try to come to an agreement in their exclusive window before picking up his option, and they could not come to one.  Or it is possible that they felt they had better things to do with the money.  But they could not have declined his option and made him an RFA.  He would have been a UFA.

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« Reply #687 on: Today at 02:55:38 PM »

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Going to take the full 15 mill to get a center it appears.

It's worth noting that if the C's wanted to they could have DECLINED Queta's option making him a RFA then come to an agreement on a new deal essentially using some of their available space under the tax to extend him early and lessen the price in future years. They didn't elect to do so.

That should tell us that they have some plan to use either the MLE or an equivalent amount of the TPE on some player. Not sure who it going to be, but I'd imagine they have some target in the 10-15 million dollar range (up to 25 million if they trade Hauser).

It is moot now, because Queta had his option picked up, but just to clarify, as you have gotten this detail incorrect before, Queta was not RFA-eligible.  He has 5 years of service time.  RFAs are only three or fewer years, except for 1st-rounders coming off their 4th year of a rookie deal.  In any case, it is not 5 years as Queta has.

It is possible that the Celtics did try to come to an agreement in their exclusive window before picking up his option, and they could not come to one.  Or it is possible that they felt they had better things to do with the money.  But they could not have declined his option and made him an RFA.  He would have been a UFA.

Fair enough, I forgot he did indeed play in Sacramento before Boston.

In any case if they didn't have some other intended use fo the money they have below the tax I'd imagine they would have come to some sort of agreement. But I suppose its also possible he was just asking for more than they wanted to pay him.

We'll find out soon.