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Re: 2026-27 Celtics Off Season Discussion
« Reply #105 on: Today at 07:12:13 AM »

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"IF the Pelicans aggressively pursue Jaylen Brown, the blueprint for their blockbuster trade offer would center directly around the following, per
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- Dejounte Murray
- Trey Murphy III
- Significant draft capital"

I don?t hate that.  NO gets the best player but Cs get a younger player in Murphy and  would be versatile at guard, and have some capital to play with.  Not competing with SA or OKC yet. 

Re: 2026-27 Celtics Off Season Discussion
« Reply #106 on: Today at 07:35:03 AM »

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"IF the Pelicans aggressively pursue Jaylen Brown, the blueprint for their blockbuster trade offer would center directly around the following, per
@ScoopB
 

- Dejounte Murray
- Trey Murphy III
- Significant draft capital"

I don?t hate that.  NO gets the best player but Cs get a younger player in Murphy and  would be versatile at guard, and have some capital to play with.  Not competing with SA or OKC yet.

Draft capital would have to be truly significant in my book.  Murray is still living off the rep of his career year like 5 seasons ago at age 25.  He is coming off a major injury and the year before his injury he was pretty bad.  If he bounces back you have a player who will decline a $30 million player option and seek a long-term raise entering age 31, with an ACL and Achilles in his past.  If he does not bounce back, then you have made a major downgrade from Jaylen and owe Murray $62 million over two seasons, since he would not opt out.

Now, if we are talking unprotected picks (plural) in the new era of flattened lottery odds for a team that could easily miss the playoffs, you have my attention, but otherwise this trade is a step backwards.

I am a fan of Murray, and called him my 1A target, but that is as a third option playing next to the Js.  I think that what he brings to that team would be a near perfect fit.  But as the #2 option next to Tatum I am less excited.

Re: 2026-27 Celtics Off Season Discussion
« Reply #107 on: Today at 08:13:58 AM »

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This trade idea of Brown for Murphy and Murray + Picks is reasonable but I don't see it making BOS better in the next couple of seasons, even if Murray plays at his best.  So for that reason, I would only do it if it has gotten to the point where Brown wants to be traded and you feel you have to trade him.

If you feel that you have to trade Brown, I would rather get Williamson and Murphy + Picks for Brown and Hauser.  Williamson, if he plays at his best, is a player who with Tatum can take you to a title.  There is risk with him as there is risk with Murray, but the ceiling is higher.  The likely line up would be 1 guard, 3 forwards, and 1 center, not conventional, but I am not sure you need 2 guards on the floor.  Or let Murphy be a super 6th man.  Or go small with Williamson at center.  With how well Tatum rebounds, BOS could get away with that.

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Tatum
Williamson
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The problem is that I can't get this trade to work on the Spotrac Trade Machine.  Zion does not seem to be counting as outgoing salary for NOP.  It does work on the Fanspo trade machine so I don't know if it is just some glitch with Spotrac or if there really is something about Zion's contract that makes this not work.
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Re: 2026-27 Celtics Off Season Discussion
« Reply #108 on: Today at 08:18:07 AM »

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All this Brown trade talk is hilarious.

Jaylen Brown will be a Celtic next year. Book it.

Re: 2026-27 Celtics Off Season Discussion
« Reply #109 on: Today at 08:33:15 AM »

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This trade idea of Brown for Murphy and Murray + Picks is reasonable but I don't see it making BOS better in the next couple of seasons, even if Murray plays at his best.  So for that reason, I would only do it if it has gotten to the point where Brown wants to be traded and you feel you have to trade him.

If you feel that you have to trade Brown, I would rather get Williamson and Murphy + Picks for Brown and Hauser.  Williamson, if he plays at his best, is a player who with Tatum can take you to a title.  There is risk with him as there is risk with Murray, but the ceiling is higher.  The line up is 1 guard, 3 forwards, and 1 center, not conventional, but I am not sure you need 2 guards on the floor.  Or let Murphy be a super 6th man.  Or go small with Williamson at center.  With how well Tatum rebounds, BOS could get away with that.

White
Murphy
Tatum
Williamson
Queta

The problem is that I can't get this trade to work on the Spotrac Trade Machine.  Zion does not seem to be counting as outgoing salary for NOP.  It does work on the Fanspo trade machine so I don't know if it is just some glitch with Spotrac or if there really is something about Zion's contract that makes this not work.
Murphy is the key to the trade.  He is a much better shooter than Brown.  He has a much better assist to turnover ratio.  He generates steals at an elite level.  Murphy is used to playing next to ball dominant players and succeeding.  He will likely play very well off of Tatum.  There is a chance that he alone will give Boston a higher ceiling. Boston certainly would have a lower floor with Murphy but there is a decent chance the ceiling raises, which is the ultimate end game.  Sometimes removing a better player for better fitting ones makes the team better.  We've seen that here over the years with someone like Kyrie.  The team got better when they swapped out Kyrie for the lesser talented Kemba.  The Bad Boy Pistons won the title when they traded Dantley for Aguirre mid-season. The Bucks traded the lesser talented Holiday for the more talented Lillard and they fell apart   Sometimes  more talent leads to a worse team. Sometimes it doesn't.  I'm just at the point where I think a chance is needed. The twam has failed epically the lat 2 playoffs and running it mostly back will just lead to a 3rd early exit in my view.  I could be wrong or maybe it is time to break up the duo.
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Re: 2026-27 Celtics Off Season Discussion
« Reply #110 on: Today at 08:42:04 AM »

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All this Brown trade talk is hilarious.

Jaylen Brown will be a Celtic next year. Book it.

I agree that the most likely outcome is Brown is a Celtic, been saying that all along.  Maybe 90% or higher.  But do you concede that there is a 10% chance he is traded?  That is how I see it.  Brown's name is out there now due to all his statements and things about sacrificing and all that.  That does not mean that BOS wants to trade him but it has stirred things up enough that teams may call.

It seems like the idea of Brown for Giannis may be losing traction, not gaining.  But BOS has traditionally been very tight lipped in relation to leaks about trades.  There is no reason for BOS to make it seem like they want to trade Brown, even if they do.  I have no doubt that there are team out there interested in Brown if he is available.  Stevens' track record shows he is willing to make a bold trade if it is a really good trade.  I don't see why Brown would be any different.  Tatum too, albeit even less likely.
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Re: 2026-27 Celtics Off Season Discussion
« Reply #111 on: Today at 08:57:44 AM »

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All this Brown trade talk is hilarious.

Jaylen Brown will be a Celtic next year. Book it.

I agree that the most likely outcome is Brown is a Celtic, been saying that all along.  Maybe 90% or higher.  But do you concede that there is a 10% chance he is traded?  That is how I see it.  Brown's name is out there now due to all his statements and things about sacrificing and all that.  That does not mean that BOS wants to trade him but it has stirred things up enough that teams may call.

It seems like the idea of Brown for Giannis may be losing traction, not gaining.  But BOS has traditionally been very tight lipped in relation to leaks about trades.  There is no reason for BOS to make it seem like they want to trade Brown, even if they do.  I have no doubt that there are team out there interested in Brown if he is available.  Stevens' track record shows he is willing to make a bold trade if it is a really good trade.  I don't see why Brown would be any different.  Tatum too, albeit even less likely.

Just saw this a few minutes ago and thought this would be a good place to post:

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Giannis Antetokounmpo is ?very intrigued? with joining the Boston Celtics due to their depth and ability to contend for championships, per @sam_amick

Doesn't mean it's going to happen, and we've yet to hear about the Celtics being interested in Giannis, but I think we'll continue to be linked until a trade is actually completed - either with Miami, us, or someone else