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Re: Proposed Jaylen Brown Trade Ideas
« Reply #240 on: Today at 01:56:19 PM »

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Barring a drastic and unforeseen change in the market, the Boston Celtics will have to significantly lower their asking price if they plan on trading him anytime soon. Portland?s interest is ?moderate,? Denver?s interest is ?overstated,? and Brooklyn is ?not engaged at all.?

Yeah I'm seeing multiple reports now that Jaylen's trade value is shot. I don't see the point.
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Re: Proposed Jaylen Brown Trade Ideas
« Reply #241 on: Today at 02:19:47 PM »

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Barring a drastic and unforeseen change in the market, the Boston Celtics will have to significantly lower their asking price if they plan on trading him anytime soon. Portland?s interest is ?moderate,? Denver?s interest is ?overstated,? and Brooklyn is ?not engaged at all.?

Yeah I'm seeing multiple reports now that Jaylen's trade value is shot. I don't see the point.

He needs to stay.  Any trade is a step back.  If they wanted to trade for Giannis they needed to go all in and overpay.  They didn't so now they are finding out that JB's value across the league is not as high as they want it to be.  I think JB has done this a lot to himself by battling the media and causing headaches.  His comments come across as selfish.  Look at the return for Ja.  While JB is not on Ja's end of being a headache when you are one your value is less.

This situation is a mess and people are blaming Brad for what is happening but I don't.  He's holding firm on his asking price and should.  They don't need to trade JB and won't just to move him.  I feel bad for JB but he created this situation as much as the Celtics front office did.  We have no clue what was said behind the scenes.

Re: Proposed Jaylen Brown Trade Ideas
« Reply #242 on: Today at 02:20:47 PM »

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I said this before, teams does NOT want his contract with the apron involved. It?s not about his play, it?s the money. That why I said after losing to Philly he is not going anywhere
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« Reply #243 on: Today at 02:22:52 PM »

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Barring a drastic and unforeseen change in the market, the Boston Celtics will have to significantly lower their asking price if they plan on trading him anytime soon. Portland?s interest is ?moderate,? Denver?s interest is ?overstated,? and Brooklyn is ?not engaged at all.?

Yeah I'm seeing multiple reports now that Jaylen's trade value is shot. I don't see the point.

I don't think it's shot in that they couldn't get something for him. If they were willing to take 2 first round picks in a deal I think they could get that.

Its shot in that they aren't going to get the "4 or 5" firsts they've been rumored to be asking for.

If you're getting a haul of 4+ firsts for him maybe it's worth it taking a step back for one year, but if you're just getting like 2 I'd much rather just run it back. We'll see if Brad agrees.

Re: Proposed Jaylen Brown Trade Ideas
« Reply #244 on: Today at 03:27:33 PM »

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Barring a drastic and unforeseen change in the market, the Boston Celtics will have to significantly lower their asking price if they plan on trading him anytime soon. Portland?s interest is ?moderate,? Denver?s interest is ?overstated,? and Brooklyn is ?not engaged at all.?

Yeah I'm seeing multiple reports now that Jaylen's trade value is shot. I don't see the point.

I don't think it's shot in that they couldn't get something for him. If they were willing to take 2 first round picks in a deal I think they could get that.

Its shot in that they aren't going to get the "4 or 5" firsts they've been rumored to be asking for.

If you're getting a haul of 4+ firsts for him maybe it's worth it taking a step back for one year, but if you're just getting like 2 I'd much rather just run it back. We'll see if Brad agrees.

If all we can get is two #1s for him, I'd say his value is shot.  That's less than we paid for 33 year old Jrue Holiday.
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Re: Proposed Jaylen Brown Trade Ideas
« Reply #245 on: Today at 04:16:40 PM »

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Feels like this was always a 2 year retool and 2027 was the time they could really build it back. I think Brad wants Brown's contract off the books for then and wants to have picks to use. He knows the longer he keeps him the less value he has.

Do not think they want to be a 2 guy super max team...and they can't to be honest.

Worst case, the Cs don't trade Brown.  And they don't extend him on a supermax deal.

Just tell him, let's wait and see. 

Most likely he'd be in a similar situation to Trae Young in three years, and he'll get a deal for much less than the max.

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« Reply #246 on: Today at 04:27:00 PM »

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When Jaylen made 3rd team All-NBA a few years ago, I knew it was a bad thing, since he qualified for a super max contract. It took injuries and players not being eligible for Jaylen to make that 3rd team. I love Jaylen, but not everyone is deserving of a super max. Unfortunately, that contract is proving to be an albatross now. Teams may want him, but they also don't want to have to be on the hook for that super max extension. Another way to look at it, why would any team give up essentially equal value for Jaylen for just the 3 years remaining on his deal, knowing they won't give the super max extension and he walks.

Re: Proposed Jaylen Brown Trade Ideas
« Reply #247 on: Today at 04:32:02 PM »

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When Jaylen made 3rd team All-NBA a few years ago, I knew it was a bad thing, since he qualified for a super max contract. It took injuries and players not being eligible for Jaylen to make that 3rd team. I love Jaylen, but not everyone is deserving of a super max. Unfortunately, that contract is proving to be an albatross now. Teams may want him, but they also don't want to have to be on the hook for that super max extension. Another way to look at it, why would any team give up essentially equal value for Jaylen for just the 3 years remaining on his deal, knowing they won't give the super max extension and he walks.

I'd love to see them get rid of the 3rd team All-NBA. Go back to just having the 2 NBA teams like it used to be. The top 10 players in the league. That is a much harder grade to crack. A real difference from being an All-Star (top 24 player) to a top 10 player vs a top 15 player.

That 3rd team has become even more erratic in recent years with the number of injuries in today's game. Now the minimum games requirement which will add to that. There will be undeserving guys every year. Just get rid of it.

Go back to 1st and 2nd All-NBA only.

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« Reply #248 on: Today at 04:33:39 PM »

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Feels like this was always a 2 year retool and 2027 was the time they could really build it back. I think Brad wants Brown's contract off the books for then and wants to have picks to use. He knows the longer he keeps him the less value he has.

Do not think they want to be a 2 guy super max team...and they can't to be honest.

Worst case, the Cs don't trade Brown.  And they don't extend him on a supermax deal.

Just tell him, let's wait and see. 

Most likely he'd be in a similar situation to Trae Young in three years, and he'll get a deal for much less than the max.

Think this is what happens.

Re: Proposed Jaylen Brown Trade Ideas
« Reply #249 on: Today at 05:56:02 PM »

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My ideal scenario would be for LeBron to commit to a final Cavs run. Lakers do a LeBron S+T for Strus and Cleveland decide to go all in and trade Mobley for Brown.

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Re: Proposed Jaylen Brown Trade Ideas
« Reply #250 on: Today at 07:27:03 PM »

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Watching a DEN radio station segment on Jaylen Brown. They said the odds of Jaylen going to DEN shot up from 15 to 1 to 3 to 1 overnight.

BOS are still the favourite at 1.9 to 1.
DEN are 2nd favourite at 3 to 1.

LAC at 5 to 1
POR at 6 to 1

CHA at 9 to 1
UTA at 12 to 1

Re: Proposed Jaylen Brown Trade Ideas
« Reply #251 on: Today at 07:31:50 PM »

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Watching a DEN radio station segment on Jaylen Brown. They said the odds of Jaylen going to DEN shot up from 15 to 1 to 3 to 1 overnight.

The radio guys were strongly pro-trading for Jaylen Brown. They said they were surprised that so many Nuggets fans did not the team to trade Jamal Murray for Jaylen Brown.

Adam Mares of the Tim Legler podcast is a Nuggets fan. He wasn't keen on the swap either. He believes the biggest issue with the Nuggets is the lack of playmaking / guard play. That Jamal Murray is the only guy who provides ball-handling & playmaking. He doesn't think Jaylen makes the team better.

Adam Mares did like that Jaylen would make them more physical and better defensively which he saw as their 2nd biggest flaw as a team. But he saw the first issue as more important.

I agree with a lot of what Mares said. I am not sure which one of those two problems is more important but I agree with him that the lack of ball-handling / guard play is a major issue for DEN + that removing Jamal Murray will highlight that problem even further.

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« Reply #252 on: Today at 07:32:16 PM »

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When Jaylen made 3rd team All-NBA a few years ago, I knew it was a bad thing, since he qualified for a super max contract. It took injuries and players not being eligible for Jaylen to make that 3rd team. I love Jaylen, but not everyone is deserving of a super max. Unfortunately, that contract is proving to be an albatross now. Teams may want him, but they also don't want to have to be on the hook for that super max extension. Another way to look at it, why would any team give up essentially equal value for Jaylen for just the 3 years remaining on his deal, knowing they won't give the super max extension and he walks.

Jaylen made SECOND team all-nba to qualify for his supermax, not third team.

Re: Proposed Jaylen Brown Trade Ideas
« Reply #253 on: Today at 07:52:13 PM »

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I am thinking about this Jamal Murray for Jaylen swap

Who would play PG for DEN?

I like what Jaylen brings to DEN on defense. A more aggressive & quicker defender at SF than Cam Johnson. Jaylen & A Gordon would be a top forward defensive combo. Jaylen & C Braun would be one of the top wing defensive combos. So that 3 man grouping is great for them defensively. Reinforcement. Aid for Jokic.

I am not sure what happens at PG though.

2 issues here (1) offense. (2) defense.

Jokic has been much easier to exploit defensively when he has been paired with small guards. Whether that was a small starting guard when J Murray was injured. Or a small guard as J Murray's backup. This is why they brought Bruce Brown Jr back. Because he is really a two guard, a physically strong two guard, who can handle the ball enough to keep DEN big in the backcourt to help protect Jokic.

Jamal Murray actually does more for DEN defensively than he gets credit for. At 6-5 200lbs he is highly switchable for a PG. That allows DEN to switch 1-4 at ease and minimize gaps on defense that Jokic has to cover which in turn protects Jokic.

So DEN has no depth at PG. Bruce Brown Jr is next man up. Not a real ball-handler. Jaylen cannot run the offense. He needs a PG. So who plays PG? Who is available in free agency?

Marcus Smart? You have some offensive minded combo guards like A Simons and C Sexton who are bad defenders. You have a tiny bench guard like Brandon Williams. Kris Dunn is off the market. Not many options there.  It is mostly minimum contract type guys. Tyus Jones.

G: Smart
G: C Braun
F: Jaylen
F: A Gordon
C: Jokic

or

G: A Simons or C Sexton
G: C Braun
F: Jaylen
F: A Gordon
C: Jokic

Are either of those 2 teams with Jaylen any better than their current team with Jamal Murray?

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« Reply #254 on: Today at 08:51:00 PM »

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https://x.com/TheDunkCentral/status/2072119851397574955?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Brian Windhorst talks about the idea of Brown playing with LeBron in Cleveland.