Proposed Jaylen Brown Trade Ideas

[Celtics4ever]

Even the realistic ones posted here are unrealistic.  Everyday this drags with more drama we lose control and Brown loses value.  If he disgruntled teams will give us less.

I think we will get a package like Grant, Sharpe and one MIL pick and One Portland pick and maybe one more pick if we are lucky.   It does not matter than Desmond Bane was traded for 4 1st.   It is a different market.

Meanwhile, free agency looms and our hands are tied by this matter to some degree.

[boscel33]

Even the realistic ones posted here are unrealistic.  Everyday this drags with more drama we lose control and Brown loses value.  If he disgruntled teams will give us less.

I think we will get a package like Grant, Sharpe and one MIL pick and One Portland pick and maybe one more pick if we are lucky.   It does not matter than Desmond Bane was traded for 4 1st.   It is a different market.

Meanwhile, free agency looms and our hands are tied by this matter to some degree.

I think they include Scoot too.  Scoot, Sharpe, Grant, and two unprotected firsts.  I'm warming to Grant.  Thought he was a lot older, but just turning 32, I'm OK with it. 

[Celtics4ever]

I think Sharpe's ability to attack the rim is amazing.  Did you know he has the all time combine record for vertical leap at 49".

I think Scoot is becoming a bust, I really do not care for him as he is a poor shooter, but sometimes in trades you have to take back a poison pill.

[Moranis]

Even the realistic ones posted here are unrealistic.  Everyday this drags with more drama we lose control and Brown loses value.  If he disgruntled teams will give us less.

I think we will get a package like Grant, Sharpe and one MIL pick and One Portland pick and maybe one more pick if we are lucky.   It does not matter than Desmond Bane was traded for 4 1st.   It is a different market.

Meanwhile, free agency looms and our hands are tied by this matter to some degree.

I think they include Scoot too.  Scoot, Sharpe, Grant, and two unprotected firsts.  I'm warming to Grant.  Thought he was a lot older, but just turning 32, I'm OK with it.

If we get their unprotected Bucks pick and then like their 2033 unprotected 1st, that has some appeal, though I'd prefer 3 1st's, those 2 and then the later year they have swap rights with the Bucks (so that would give us the better of the Bucks or Blazers pick in that year). 

That would give Boston 3 prime 1st round picks to use as trade chips.  Like if Jokic asks out next summer, Boston would immediately be at the top of the list with those picks.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

I think Sharpe's ability to attack the rim is amazing.  Did you know he has the all time combine record for vertical leap at 49".

I think Scoot is becoming a bust, I really do not care for him as he is a poor shooter, but sometimes in trades you have to take back a poison pill.

I'm the exact opposite. Have you watched the Blazers play much? I ask because I hadn't, and wanted to catch a few games because of Sharpe's stats (and to watch Holiday). And I found his stats do not match his play.

The games that I've seen, Sharpe is a negative on the court. His defense on ball is meh, off ball is poor. You cannot rely on him to create and have a good offense. You cannot rely on him to spot up and have a good offense. He's a guy that you can trust the advanced stats on - (105 off rating, 115 def rating).

Scoot has shifted his game a bit since his rookie year. He's more efficient. He's picking his spots better. He's always been able to create offense for his teammates. His shooting has continued to improve.

Scoot is not slouch athletically either, but he's also a competitor.

Of the two, I'd prefer Scoot as a "second draft" player. He could be karma for losing Billups all those years ago.

[Celtics2021]

Even the realistic ones posted here are unrealistic.  Everyday this drags with more drama we lose control and Brown loses value.  If he disgruntled teams will give us less.

I think we will get a package like Grant, Sharpe and one MIL pick and One Portland pick and maybe one more pick if we are lucky.   It does not matter than Desmond Bane was traded for 4 1st.   It is a different market.

Meanwhile, free agency looms and our hands are tied by this matter to some degree.

I think they include Scoot too.  Scoot, Sharpe, Grant, and two unprotected firsts.  I'm warming to Grant.  Thought he was a lot older, but just turning 32, I'm OK with it.

Gyuh no.  Do not warm to Grant.  Do not accept him for only two firsts, if that is the rest you are getting.  No no no no no.  He is 32, but has been in a decline for multiple years in terms of both performance and availability, and his peak performance was never more than good starter anyway.  He is owed $70 million over the next two seasons, and that proposal costs $10 million more than JB, bringing the Celtics right up to the tax line.  Grant does not rebound, his turnover percentage is as high as Jaylen, and is actually higher than his assist percentage.  He is not good.  And he is incredibly expensive, and is not an expiring.  He is awful, do not sell yourself on him.  I get the temptation.  I sold myself on Gerald Wallace 13 years ago.  That was wrong then, and this would be wrong now.

[Celtics4ever]

He is owed $70 million over the next two seasons, and that proposal costs $10 million more than JB, bringing the Celtics right up to the tax line

Jaylen Brown cost the next two years is  $57,078,728 and $61,015,192 respectively, and that totals 118,093,920 for the next two years how is that more than Grant's 70 million?  I know there will be other salaries.   But the comment he costs more than Brown is not true.   He makes $34,206,898  next year and has a player option the year after that for $36,413,790.   Then he will be off the books at the end of 2027-28.  Brown at that time still is on the books for more year for $64,951,656 in 2928-29. Then comes off the books at 2029-30.  What math am I missing here?


https://www.spotrac.com/nba/player/_/id/20208/jaylen-brown

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/player/_/id/15391/jerami-grant


I agree J. Grant has been in decline some.   We may have to take what the market is offering if moving him was the goal.  He shot 38.9 from downtown and averaged 18.6 PPG last year.   His rebounding is terrible for a forward at 3.5 PPG.    I think while not ideal, he is still a better player than Wallace was when he came to us.     I do like getting Sharpe who is locked into 20 million for 4 years and who is a 20 PPG who can attack the rim but is only a 33 3p shooter.

I would to get him and trade for Kessler immediately.

[Goldstar88]

I think Sharpe's ability to attack the rim is amazing.  Did you know he has the all time combine record for vertical leap at 49".

I think Scoot is becoming a bust, I really do not care for him as he is a poor shooter, but sometimes in trades you have to take back a poison pill.

I'm the exact opposite. Have you watched the Blazers play much? I ask because I hadn't, and wanted to catch a few games because of Sharpe's stats (and to watch Holiday). And I found his stats do not match his play.

The games that I've seen, Sharpe is a negative on the court. His defense on ball is meh, off ball is poor. You cannot rely on him to create and have a good offense. You cannot rely on him to spot up and have a good offense. He's a guy that you can trust the advanced stats on - (105 off rating, 115 def rating).

Scoot has shifted his game a bit since his rookie year. He's more efficient. He's picking his spots better. He's always been able to create offense for his teammates. His shooting has continued to improve.

Scoot is not slouch athletically either, but he's also a competitor.

Of the two, I'd prefer Scoot as a "second draft" player. He could be karma for losing Billups all those years ago.

Shape and Henderson are 22 and 23 years old. I?d want both of them in the trade. Scoot played well in the playoffs. I was impressed. He competed hard.

I don?t think Clingan is on the table. They don?t have a starting center waiting in the wings.

[celticinorlando]

Grant sucks. He would be a DNP most nights for Boston. It would be 2 years of eating 34 and 36 million for a guy that waves a towel.

He is no longer a productive player. They would not be able to move him and he would certainly opt into his player option. His contract is one of the worst in the NBA.

Sharpe is meh. Super athletic and super lazy that hasn't seemed to progress. Scoot seems to be in the same boat. Maybe a change of teams will help.

But I fail to see what Sharpe provides if he starts with white and JT. He is not a good shooter. Not a good defender.

Scoot might be ok to back up PP.

[Celtics4ever]

I'm the exact opposite. Have you watched the Blazers play much? I ask because I hadn't, and wanted to catch a few games because of Sharpe's stats (and to watch Holiday). And I found his stats do not match his play.

The games that I've seen, Sharpe is a negative on the court. His defense on ball is meh, off ball is poor. You cannot rely on him to create and have a good offense. You cannot rely on him to spot up and have a good offense. He's a guy that you can trust the advanced stats on - (105 off rating, 115 def rating).

Scoot has shifted his game a bit since his rookie year. He's more efficient. He's picking his spots better. He's always been able to create offense for his teammates. His shooting has continued to improve.

Scoot is not slouch athletically either, but he's also a competitor.

Of the two, I'd prefer Scoot as a "second draft" player. He could be karma for losing Billups all those years ago.

No, I do not watch the Blazers a lot.  I will readily admit it.

Here are his improvements by year.   I think our coaches could help him even more as well with his shooting.

2025-26 Season: 41.8% FG, 35.2% 3PT,  84.0% FT
2024-25 Season: 41.9% FG, 32.5% 3PT,  76.7% FT
2023-24 Season: 38.5% FG, 32.5% 3PT,  81.9% FT

Both of these guys are unfinished products.   We may end up with both.

Sharpe is meh. Super athletic that hasn't seem to progress. Scoot seems to be in the same boat. Maybe a change of teams will help.

Here are his shooting stats for reference

                                              FG            3P          FT          PPG
2022?23Portland Trail Blazers   47.2%    36.0%     71.4%      9.9
2023?24Portland Trail Blazers   40.6%    33.3%     82.4%    15.9
2024?25Portland Trail Blazers   45.2%    31.1%     78.5%    18.5
2025?26Portland Trail Blazers   45.2%    33.7%     78.7%    20.8

Some regression with usage going up, definitely with increased usage.  He scored the second most ppg behind Adja.  I agree a change might help him.

I am aware people think Sharpe does not have a motor.  He can block a shot or two.  He has all the tools to be a lock down defender.  Maybe he will fall in line under Tatum and Mazulla.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbsNhB1EXMg

But he doesn't play D under Joe, he won't see the court.  His highlights are amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgVPRPBkX_g

But as we all know those are unique moments of goodness.

[Who]

Categories

Realistic - improvement:
Realistic - neutral:
Realistic - regression:

Unrealistic - improvement:
Unrealistic - neutral:
Unrealistic - regression:

Contracts (name, current salary, contract years remaining)

Stephen Curry - 63M (1 year)
Joel Embiid - 60M (3 years)
Nikola Jokic - 59M (2 years)
Anthony Davis - 58M (2 years)
Giannis Antetokounmpo - 58M (2 years)
Karl-Anthony Towns - 57M (2 years)

Devin Booker - 57M (4 years)
Jimmy Butler - 57M (1 year)
Paul George - 54M (2 years)
Bam Adebayo - 52M (3 years)
De'Aaron Fox - 51M (4 years)
Luka Doncic - 51M (3 years)

Kawhi Leonard - 50M (1 year)
Donovan Mitchell - 50M (2 years)
Cade Cunningham - 50M (4 years)
Evan Mobley - 50M (4 years)
Jamal Murray - 50M (3 years)
Trae Young - 50M (4 years)

Jaren Jackson Jr - 49M (4 years)
Zach LaVine - 49M (1 year)
Pascal Siakam - 49M (2 years)
Tyrese Haliburton - 49M (3 years)
Anthony Edwards - 49M (3 years)
Lauri Markkanen - 46M (3 years)

Realistic - improvement:
Realistic - neutral: Jamal Murray
Realistic - regression: Lauri Markkanen, Jaren Jackson Jr, Zach LaVine, Pascal Siakam, Trae Young, Evan Mobley, Donovan Mitchell, Devin Booker, Jimmy Butler, De'Aaron Fox, Paul George, Anthony Davis, Joel Embiid, Kawhi Leonard

Unrealistic - improvement: Tyrese Haliburton, Anthony Edwards, Cade Cunningham, Luka Doncic, Nikola Jokic, Stephen Curry
Unrealistic - neutral: Karl-Anthony Towns
Unrealistic - regression: Bam Adebayo, Giannis Antetokounmpo

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Kawhi is neutral in the present tense but he is older and injury prone so I put him in the regression pile. I was unsure whether to put Jamal Murray in the neutral or regression pile.

0 for realistic and improvement
1 maybe (unsure) for realistic and neutral = J Murray
14 for realistic and regression

6 for unrealistic and improvement
1 for unrealistic and neutral
2 for unrealistic and regression

[Who]

One positive thing about Scoot is that he is a great teammate / locker room guy. He was around the team all the time while he was injured. Cheering everyone on. Gets along well with everyone. Liked by his teammates.

He has the sort of selfish scoring PG type of game but personality wise he is a consummate team guy.

[Who]

Here is an interesting Shaedon Sharpe comment

Reminds me a lot of Zach Lavine

I can see where this person is coming from. Lot of talent but has not figured out how to use it to impact winning. I like that comment.

[celticinorlando]

One positive thing about Scoot is that he is a great teammate / locker room guy. He was around the team all the time while he was injured. Cheering everyone on. Gets along well with everyone. Liked by his teammates.

He has the sort of selfish scoring PG type of game but personality wise he is a consummate team guy.

Scoot has to be in the deal. He could fill the quick guard job Brad referred to. He would be a very good back up to PP.

Sharpe...I am not sure how he fits in Boston. I am concerned about his 3 point shooting and his energy/defense. I am not sure he can improve his scoring to where they need it to be to replace Brown. 20 ppg just seems like his ceiling.

Grant is a waste of space.

[Who]

One positive thing about Scoot is that he is a great teammate / locker room guy. He was around the team all the time while he was injured. Cheering everyone on. Gets along well with everyone. Liked by his teammates.

He has the sort of selfish scoring PG type of game but personality wise he is a consummate team guy.

Scoot has to be in the deal. He could fill the quick guard job Brad referred to. He would be a very good back up to PP.

Sharpe...I am not sure how he fits in Boston. I am concerned about his 3 point shooting and his energy/defense. I am not sure he can improve his scoring to where they need it to be to replace Brown. 20 ppg just seems like his ceiling.

Grant is a waste of space.

I think Scoot starts and they keep Pritchard as a reserve. Mostly because Scoot is bigger physically & athletically and gives them that bigger 2 guard backcourt defensively.

I like Scoot & D White as a defensive combo. Then have Pritchard off the bench as a game changing shooter / scorer like when he won 6MoY.

I also think Scoot gives us more dribble penetration in the offense and makes us less reliant on the 3. This will be needed even more without Jaylen Brown on the team. Someone in that starting lineup (besides Tatum) who actually drives the ball.

So I like the balance Scoot provides that starting group.