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Re: Sengun available in trade(rumor)
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All fair questions. I guess I just don't love the archetype of player Sengun is either. I think for bigs to be his level defensively, they need to be offensive Savants. Sengun would have to make a step or two with his shooting prowess to even come close to having him on the floor in a high stakes series.

Sengun does not make 3s.  That limits his offensive threat.  He can still score, he found a way to average 20 pts this season, but if the picker in the pick and role isn't a threat to make a 3, it allows the defense to play it differently.

I don't disagree that BOS needs to add a reliable big.  Sengun is a solid big.  He is not as good as Brown though, at least I don't see it that way.

HOU needs to win now.  They traded a good young player for Durant.  I offer them White, which probably is not enough but start the discussion there.
Sengun shot nearly 2 3's a game this year making just over 30%.  That isn't good, but he does at least shoot them enough to keep defenses honest. 
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Re: Sengun available in trade(rumor)
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All fair questions. I guess I just don't love the archetype of player Sengun is either. I think for bigs to be his level defensively, they need to be offensive Savants. Sengun would have to make a step or two with his shooting prowess to even come close to having him on the floor in a high stakes series.

Sengun does not make 3s.  That limits his offensive threat.  He can still score, he found a way to average 20 pts this season, but if the picker in the pick and role isn't a threat to make a 3, it allows the defense to play it differently.

I don't disagree that BOS needs to add a reliable big.  Sengun is a solid big.  He is not as good as Brown though, at least I don't see it that way.

HOU needs to win now.  They traded a good young player for Durant.  I offer them White, which probably is not enough but start the discussion there.
Sengun shot nearly 2 3's a game this year making just over 30%.  That isn't good, but he does at least shoot them enough to keep defenses honest.

Those 2 3PA per game he took were probably wide open looks.  The other team just daring him to shoot.  If he is only 30% on those shots, he is not keeping anyone honest.  That does not make him a bad player.  He is good.  And not every player needs to hit 3s.  It just is what it is.

Re: Sengun available in trade(rumor)
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All fair questions. I guess I just don't love the archetype of player Sengun is either. I think for bigs to be his level defensively, they need to be offensive Savants. Sengun would have to make a step or two with his shooting prowess to even come close to having him on the floor in a high stakes series.

Sengun does not make 3s.  That limits his offensive threat.  He can still score, he found a way to average 20 pts this season, but if the picker in the pick and role isn't a threat to make a 3, it allows the defense to play it differently.

I don't disagree that BOS needs to add a reliable big.  Sengun is a solid big.  He is not as good as Brown though, at least I don't see it that way.

HOU needs to win now.  They traded a good young player for Durant.  I offer them White, which probably is not enough but start the discussion there.
Sengun shot nearly 2 3's a game this year making just over 30%.  That isn't good, but he does at least shoot them enough to keep defenses honest.

Those 2 3PA per game he took were probably wide open looks.  The other team just daring him to shoot.  If he is only 30% on those shots, he is not keeping anyone honest.  That does not make him a bad player.  He is good.  And not every player needs to hit 3s.  It just is what it is.
you were talking about him being a picker and not shooting so teams defend differently.  I think a pick and pop type 3 is the exact kind of wide open 3 he'd take.  At least enough of a time to keep the opposing team honest.  He won't be standing i. The corner for a kick out. That isnt his strength, but I do think a pick and roll or pop, he shoots enough to not be a detriment.
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Re: Sengun available in trade(rumor)
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I love Jaylen Brown, and I don't think we should trade him unless it increases the talent level of our team.

Sengun would be a step down in talent.

I recognize the problem with viewing this like that is that there aren't any players better than Brown that are available.
I think the questions are

1. How much of a step down?
2. How much longer will brown be better?   
3. Would Boston be better with a massive upgrade down low as opposed to the better player at the wing?
4. Do the extra player or two Hosuton has to send make up the current talent difference between Brown and Sengun?

Not Dorian Finney Smith and Reed Sheppard. Jabari Smith Jr or Tari Eason make it a lot more appealing
Sheppard has by far the most value and upside of those 4 players.  I don't think it is particularly close either.

Feel free to make the argument that Reed Sheppard is a better player and better fit than Jabari Smith Jr or Eason. It's at least a discussion that can be had, even though I absolutely hate the fit with Pritchard.

But I have zero desire to pay DFS $40M over the next 3 years. That's just wasted cap space. I don't think we can count on the Nets bailing us out again on an overpaid 3 year contract for just a late 1st.