Sengun available in trade(rumor)

[Moranis]

All fair questions. I guess I just don't love the archetype of player Sengun is either. I think for bigs to be his level defensively, they need to be offensive Savants. Sengun would have to make a step or two with his shooting prowess to even come close to having him on the floor in a high stakes series.

Sengun does not make 3s.  That limits his offensive threat.  He can still score, he found a way to average 20 pts this season, but if the picker in the pick and role isn't a threat to make a 3, it allows the defense to play it differently.

I don't disagree that BOS needs to add a reliable big.  Sengun is a solid big.  He is not as good as Brown though, at least I don't see it that way.

HOU needs to win now.  They traded a good young player for Durant.  I offer them White, which probably is not enough but start the discussion there.

Sengun shot nearly 2 3's a game this year making just over 30%.  That isn't good, but he does at least shoot them enough to keep defenses honest. 

[Vermont Green]

All fair questions. I guess I just don't love the archetype of player Sengun is either. I think for bigs to be his level defensively, they need to be offensive Savants. Sengun would have to make a step or two with his shooting prowess to even come close to having him on the floor in a high stakes series.

Sengun does not make 3s.  That limits his offensive threat.  He can still score, he found a way to average 20 pts this season, but if the picker in the pick and role isn't a threat to make a 3, it allows the defense to play it differently.

I don't disagree that BOS needs to add a reliable big.  Sengun is a solid big.  He is not as good as Brown though, at least I don't see it that way.

HOU needs to win now.  They traded a good young player for Durant.  I offer them White, which probably is not enough but start the discussion there.

Sengun shot nearly 2 3's a game this year making just over 30%.  That isn't good, but he does at least shoot them enough to keep defenses honest.

Those 2 3PA per game he took were probably wide open looks.  The other team just daring him to shoot.  If he is only 30% on those shots, he is not keeping anyone honest.  That does not make him a bad player.  He is good.  And not every player needs to hit 3s.  It just is what it is.

[Moranis]

All fair questions. I guess I just don't love the archetype of player Sengun is either. I think for bigs to be his level defensively, they need to be offensive Savants. Sengun would have to make a step or two with his shooting prowess to even come close to having him on the floor in a high stakes series.

Sengun does not make 3s.  That limits his offensive threat.  He can still score, he found a way to average 20 pts this season, but if the picker in the pick and role isn't a threat to make a 3, it allows the defense to play it differently.

I don't disagree that BOS needs to add a reliable big.  Sengun is a solid big.  He is not as good as Brown though, at least I don't see it that way.

HOU needs to win now.  They traded a good young player for Durant.  I offer them White, which probably is not enough but start the discussion there.

Sengun shot nearly 2 3's a game this year making just over 30%.  That isn't good, but he does at least shoot them enough to keep defenses honest.

Those 2 3PA per game he took were probably wide open looks.  The other team just daring him to shoot.  If he is only 30% on those shots, he is not keeping anyone honest.  That does not make him a bad player.  He is good.  And not every player needs to hit 3s.  It just is what it is.

you were talking about him being a picker and not shooting so teams defend differently.  I think a pick and pop type 3 is the exact kind of wide open 3 he'd take.  At least enough of a time to keep the opposing team honest.  He won't be standing i. The corner for a kick out. That isnt his strength, but I do think a pick and roll or pop, he shoots enough to not be a detriment.

[jambr380]

I love Jaylen Brown, and I don't think we should trade him unless it increases the talent level of our team.

Sengun would be a step down in talent.

I recognize the problem with viewing this like that is that there aren't any players better than Brown that are available.

I think the questions are

1. How much of a step down?
2. How much longer will brown be better?   
3. Would Boston be better with a massive upgrade down low as opposed to the better player at the wing?
4. Do the extra player or two Hosuton has to send make up the current talent difference between Brown and Sengun?

Not Dorian Finney Smith and Reed Sheppard. Jabari Smith Jr or Tari Eason make it a lot more appealing

Sheppard has by far the most value and upside of those 4 players.  I don't think it is particularly close either.

Feel free to make the argument that Reed Sheppard is a better player and better fit than Jabari Smith Jr or Eason. It's at least a discussion that can be had, even though I absolutely hate the fit with Pritchard.

But I have zero desire to pay DFS $40M over the next 3 years. That's just wasted cap space. I don't think we can count on the Nets bailing us out again on an overpaid 3 year contract for just a late 1st.

[Moranis]

I love Jaylen Brown, and I don't think we should trade him unless it increases the talent level of our team.

Sengun would be a step down in talent.

I recognize the problem with viewing this like that is that there aren't any players better than Brown that are available.

I think the questions are

1. How much of a step down?
2. How much longer will brown be better?   
3. Would Boston be better with a massive upgrade down low as opposed to the better player at the wing?
4. Do the extra player or two Hosuton has to send make up the current talent difference between Brown and Sengun?

Not Dorian Finney Smith and Reed Sheppard. Jabari Smith Jr or Tari Eason make it a lot more appealing

Sheppard has by far the most value and upside of those 4 players.  I don't think it is particularly close either.

Feel free to make the argument that Reed Sheppard is a better player and better fit than Jabari Smith Jr or Eason. It's at least a discussion that can be had, even though I absolutely hate the fit with Pritchard.

But I have zero desire to pay DFS $40M over the next 3 years. That's just wasted cap space. I don't think we can count on the Nets bailing us out again on an overpaid 3 year contract for just a late 1st.

That's is fair, I'd certainly start with Sheppard and Snith, I would ultimately take DFS if I had to if it meant Sheppard.  I really like Sheppard.  I think he'd be the long term starting PG for the team.   I think PP is best suited off the bench, so Im not overly worried about the 2 of them (PP is also a lot older than Reed). If Boston could land Sengun and Sheppard for Brown, I'd be good with that.  2 long term starters that I think would pair well with Tatum.   If we could get Smith along with Sheppard and Sengun that would be 3 starters and would really shore up the bench.  That would be more optimal.  I'd even add Hauser and take back DFS in that scenario. 

[Who]

All fair questions. I guess I just don't love the archetype of player Sengun is either. I think for bigs to be his level defensively, they need to be offensive Savants. Sengun would have to make a step or two with his shooting prowess to even come close to having him on the floor in a high stakes series.

Sengun does not make 3s.  That limits his offensive threat.  He can still score, he found a way to average 20 pts this season, but if the picker in the pick and role isn't a threat to make a 3, it allows the defense to play it differently.

I don't disagree that BOS needs to add a reliable big.  Sengun is a solid big.  He is not as good as Brown though, at least I don't see it that way.

HOU needs to win now.  They traded a good young player for Durant.  I offer them White, which probably is not enough but start the discussion there.

It is not just that Sengun can't shoot 3s, it is that he can't shoot outside of 15 feet.

His range extends to the FT line.

[Who]

Feel free to make the argument that Reed Sheppard is a better player and better fit than Jabari Smith Jr or Eason. It's at least a discussion that can be had, even though I absolutely hate the fit with Pritchard.

Pritchard looks a good comp for what we hope Reed Sheppard can one day develop into.

Reed with similar early career problems as Pritchard. Small guard getting beaten up by bigger stronger players on switches. Struggling on defense. Pritchard continued to beef up and become good at defending bigger players. That is what Reed has to do to fix his defense. On offense, Reed struggling to get separation to get his shot off. Same with Pritchard. Pritchard with time learned how to pick and choose his spots and became one of the best outside shooters in the NBA. Reed has similar potential.

Agree with Pritchard & Reed being a bad fit together. Both need to be paired with bigger guards. Reed was very disappointing in the playoffs. He feels another few years away from being ready. Like Pritchard. It wasn't until year 4 that Pritchard started helping us. I wouldn't be surprised if it is the same for Reed and that is if he succeeds in developing his game as well as Pritchard did.

For me, Pritchard is the best comparison for Reed in the NBA. The best "I hope he follows this guy's example and becomes as good as him one day" match.

[Who]

I have loved DFS throughout his career. He would be the ideal SF/PF backup behind JT and JB. A Posey-esque player.

I have no idea what happened to DFS this season. Some injuries. His shot went in the tank. HOU got nothing out of him. DFS has been one of the top 3+D role players in the league for years. It was shocking how little he contributed. I don't know if that is an aberration or if there is some long term issue there we should be worried about and stay away from him.

Does anyone know more about DFS struggled so much this year? Is it a long term issue?