Time for a change?

[Roy H.]

When they reset the repeater tax, it'll allow them the following year to potentially go for it and add 2 significant players (or 1 significant player + 1 great role player type)

In what way? 

[Moranis]

Giannis at center is a bad idea.  The team would need to sign a stretch center to start.  Someone that can give 20 mpg or so and keep spacing and allow Giannis to at least start at PF with Tatum at SF.  Giannis can play some at center, but he shouldn't start there.

You don't think that Giannis at Center is a major improvement over Queta at Center?  Why is it OK to have a PF who doesn't stretch the floor but not a center?  This doesn't make sense to me.  I get that Giannis is not an efficient 3-point shooter, but he wasn't when he won the MVP and a title either.  I would be perfectly happy to have Giannis at Center or at PF, but for the Celtics, he makes more sense at Center.

I think what the limitation with Giannis is that if you have him as your PF, you need a center who can shoot, at least some.  Or the other way around, if Giannis is your Center, then you would want a PF who can shoot.  I say play Giannis at Center on BOS and make sure everyone else can shoot.

The defense is the problem.  Giannis can't take the physical strain of guarding centers and he is not going to have the same effect, especially with Tatum next to him.  Even offensively it will wear on him playing the bigger guys.

[Goldstar88]

Giannis at center is a bad idea.  The team would need to sign a stretch center to start.  Someone that can give 20 mpg or so and keep spacing and allow Giannis to at least start at PF with Tatum at SF.  Giannis can play some at center, but he shouldn't start there.

You don't think that Giannis at Center is a major improvement over Queta at Center?  Why is it OK to have a PF who doesn't stretch the floor but not a center?  This doesn't make sense to me.  I get that Giannis is not an efficient 3-point shooter, but he wasn't when he won the MVP and a title either.  I would be perfectly happy to have Giannis at Center or at PF, but for the Celtics, he makes more sense at Center.

I think what the limitation with Giannis is that if you have him as your PF, you need a center who can shoot, at least some.  Or the other way around, if Giannis is your Center, then you would want a PF who can shoot.  I say play Giannis at Center on BOS and make sure everyone else can shoot.

The defense is the problem.  Giannis can't take the physical strain of guarding centers and he is not going to have the same effect, especially with Tatum next to him.  Even offensively it will wear on him playing the bigger guys.

If KAT can play Center, so can Giannis.

[Vermont Green]

Giannis at center is a bad idea.  The team would need to sign a stretch center to start.  Someone that can give 20 mpg or so and keep spacing and allow Giannis to at least start at PF with Tatum at SF.  Giannis can play some at center, but he shouldn't start there.

You don't think that Giannis at Center is a major improvement over Queta at Center?  Why is it OK to have a PF who doesn't stretch the floor but not a center?  This doesn't make sense to me.  I get that Giannis is not an efficient 3-point shooter, but he wasn't when he won the MVP and a title either.  I would be perfectly happy to have Giannis at Center or at PF, but for the Celtics, he makes more sense at Center.

I think what the limitation with Giannis is that if you have him as your PF, you need a center who can shoot, at least some.  Or the other way around, if Giannis is your Center, then you would want a PF who can shoot.  I say play Giannis at Center on BOS and make sure everyone else can shoot.

The defense is the problem.  Giannis can't take the physical strain of guarding centers and he is not going to have the same effect, especially with Tatum next to him.  Even offensively it will wear on him playing the bigger guys.

First you said offense was the problem. That he couldn?t stretch the floor. Now you are saying defense is the problem. I don?t buy either. Defending centers might be easier. It depends on the matchup. There aren?t very many big bruising centers these days.

[Moranis]

Giannis at center is a bad idea.  The team would need to sign a stretch center to start.  Someone that can give 20 mpg or so and keep spacing and allow Giannis to at least start at PF with Tatum at SF.  Giannis can play some at center, but he shouldn't start there.

You don't think that Giannis at Center is a major improvement over Queta at Center?  Why is it OK to have a PF who doesn't stretch the floor but not a center?  This doesn't make sense to me.  I get that Giannis is not an efficient 3-point shooter, but he wasn't when he won the MVP and a title either.  I would be perfectly happy to have Giannis at Center or at PF, but for the Celtics, he makes more sense at Center.

I think what the limitation with Giannis is that if you have him as your PF, you need a center who can shoot, at least some.  Or the other way around, if Giannis is your Center, then you would want a PF who can shoot.  I say play Giannis at Center on BOS and make sure everyone else can shoot.

The defense is the problem.  Giannis can't take the physical strain of guarding centers and he is not going to have the same effect, especially with Tatum next to him.  Even offensively it will wear on him playing the bigger guys.

If KAT can play Center, so can Giannis.

Of course Giannis can play center, I just don't think he should.  I don't think his body can handle it and frankly I don't really want Tatum playing at PF full time either for many of the same reasons.  Giannis shouldn't be banging in the paint trying to guard Jokic, Embiid, etc.  Even guys like Hartenstein will physically just wear him down and he is old and his body already has some issues.  Having him take on that extra strain, I just don't think is a good idea. 

Also, just for the record Towns is taller, heavier, and younger than Giannis. And then on offense, Towns isn't a focal point and plays a lot on the perimeter so he doesn't take the beating on offense and doesn't have the same workload.  Even if Giannis had Tatum next to him, he'd still have to do far more than Towns has to do in NY offensively.

[Moranis]

Giannis at center is a bad idea.  The team would need to sign a stretch center to start.  Someone that can give 20 mpg or so and keep spacing and allow Giannis to at least start at PF with Tatum at SF.  Giannis can play some at center, but he shouldn't start there.

You don't think that Giannis at Center is a major improvement over Queta at Center?  Why is it OK to have a PF who doesn't stretch the floor but not a center?  This doesn't make sense to me.  I get that Giannis is not an efficient 3-point shooter, but he wasn't when he won the MVP and a title either.  I would be perfectly happy to have Giannis at Center or at PF, but for the Celtics, he makes more sense at Center.

I think what the limitation with Giannis is that if you have him as your PF, you need a center who can shoot, at least some.  Or the other way around, if Giannis is your Center, then you would want a PF who can shoot.  I say play Giannis at Center on BOS and make sure everyone else can shoot.

The defense is the problem.  Giannis can't take the physical strain of guarding centers and he is not going to have the same effect, especially with Tatum next to him.  Even offensively it will wear on him playing the bigger guys.

First you said offense was the problem. That he couldn?t stretch the floor. Now you are saying defense is the problem. I don?t buy either. Defending centers might be easier. It depends on the matchup. There aren?t very many big bruising centers these days.

I didn't say offense was the problem, but you can't start Queta with Giannis because then offense would be the problem so you have to sign a different style of center to start with Giannis.

Giannis is 6'11" 243, that isn't big for centers.  As I just mentioned in my last post, even someone like Towns is taller and heavier than Giannis and Towns isn't exactly a bruiser.  Having big bodies on you takes its toll, especially for someone who is 31, will be entering his 13th year, and with the work load he has. Giannis at center is just a bad idea in my view.  He won't hold up physically and for many of the same reasons, I really don't want Tatum playing PF full time either.  It is different with Brown next to Tatum than it would be with a player like Hauser. 

So if the team acquires Giannis for Brown, I'd want them to use the MLE on a stretch center that can start.  Doesn't have to be a great player, but needs to be someone that is like the center equivalent to Hauser.  Give the team a solid 20 mpg.  Rest of the center minutes can go to Queta and Garza.  You make do with the awkward fit of Queta and Giannis just not in the starting lineup.

[Goldstar88]

Giannis at center is a bad idea.  The team would need to sign a stretch center to start.  Someone that can give 20 mpg or so and keep spacing and allow Giannis to at least start at PF with Tatum at SF.  Giannis can play some at center, but he shouldn't start there.

You don't think that Giannis at Center is a major improvement over Queta at Center?  Why is it OK to have a PF who doesn't stretch the floor but not a center?  This doesn't make sense to me.  I get that Giannis is not an efficient 3-point shooter, but he wasn't when he won the MVP and a title either.  I would be perfectly happy to have Giannis at Center or at PF, but for the Celtics, he makes more sense at Center.

I think what the limitation with Giannis is that if you have him as your PF, you need a center who can shoot, at least some.  Or the other way around, if Giannis is your Center, then you would want a PF who can shoot.  I say play Giannis at Center on BOS and make sure everyone else can shoot.

The defense is the problem.  Giannis can't take the physical strain of guarding centers and he is not going to have the same effect, especially with Tatum next to him.  Even offensively it will wear on him playing the bigger guys.

If KAT can play Center, so can Giannis.

Of course Giannis can play center, I just don't think he should.  I don't think his body can handle it and frankly I don't really want Tatum playing at PF full time either for many of the same reasons.  Giannis shouldn't be banging in the paint trying to guard Jokic, Embiid, etc.  Even guys like Hartenstein will physically just wear him down and he is old and his body already has some issues.  Having him take on that extra strain, I just don't think is a good idea. 

Also, just for the record Towns is taller, heavier, and younger than Giannis. And then on offense, Towns isn't a focal point and plays a lot on the perimeter so he doesn't take the beating on offense and doesn't have the same workload.  Even if Giannis had Tatum next to him, he'd still have to do far more than Towns has to do in NY offensively.

There are only a couple of starting centers bigger than Giannis in the East. KAT is 1 inch taller and 5lbs heavier. Not worried about it.