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Re: Time for a change?
« Reply #285 on: Today at 11:27:35 AM »

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I read that James Stewart was floating a trade with the Cavs

Tatum and White

For

Mitchell, Allen, 3 unprotected 1st's

Not sure I'd do that, but it is interesting

I am sure, I would not do that.  What does it accomplish?  BOS is worse in the short term and no guarantee that the 3 picks will make you better in the future.

I could see White for Allen and Tyson and picks, then CLE adds LeBron.  White would be a good guard to pair with Mitchell.  LeBron replaces Allen.  BOS gets a big but probably is not any better for it.

Re: Time for a change?
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I read that James Stewart was floating a trade with the Cavs

Tatum and White

For

Mitchell, Allen, 3 unprotected 1st's

Not sure I'd do that, but it is interesting

I am sure, I would not do that.  What does it accomplish?  BOS is worse in the short term and no guarantee that the 3 picks will make you better in the future.

I could see White for Allen and Tyson and picks, then CLE adds LeBron.  White would be a good guard to pair with Mitchell.  LeBron replaces Allen.  BOS gets a big but probably is not any better for it.

That is an awful deal for Boston (the one above, not yours). Tatum is better than Mitchell, and White is better than Allen. I saw someone floating a Mitchell for Brown trade, which at least makes a little more sense, but I'd still hesitate to pull the trigger on that one

Re: Time for a change?
« Reply #287 on: Today at 01:38:19 PM »

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Unless the Cavaliers are offering up Mobley in any deal, I'm not giving them Tatum or even Brown. I love Mitchell but even with him you can't ignore some of his flaws defensively and also, he may put up numbers but I'm not sure if he's really as impactful as we may think. I'd consider Jaylen for him but I don't think there's a significant difference between both guys.

I would explore White for Allen + a role player and picks like @Vermont Green suggested. I'm not high on Allen at all personally but I'd consider it if they whiff on other options like Sabonis, Wendell Carter, Mamu, Timelord, Porzingis, etc.
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Re: Time for a change?
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Unless the Cavaliers are offering up Mobley in any deal, I'm not giving them Tatum or even Brown. I love Mitchell but even with him you can't ignore some of his flaws defensively and also, he may put up numbers but I'm not sure if he's really as impactful as we may think. I'd consider Jaylen for him but I don't think there's a significant difference between both guys.

I would explore White for Allen + a role player and picks like @Vermont Green suggested. I'm not high on Allen at all personally but I'd consider it if they whiff on other options like Sabonis, Wendell Carter, Mamu, Timelord, Porzingis, etc.

Mamu is a guy that I think is ready for a bigger role. I'd love him for something like the MLE.

Re: Time for a change?
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Unless the Cavaliers are offering up Mobley in any deal, I'm not giving them Tatum or even Brown. I love Mitchell but even with him you can't ignore some of his flaws defensively and also, he may put up numbers but I'm not sure if he's really as impactful as we may think. I'd consider Jaylen for him but I don't think there's a significant difference between both guys.

I would explore White for Allen + a role player and picks like @Vermont Green suggested. I'm not high on Allen at all personally but I'd consider it if they whiff on other options like Sabonis, Wendell Carter, Mamu, Timelord, Porzingis, etc.

Mamu is a guy that I think is ready for a bigger role. I'd love him for something like the MLE.

If I had to rank guys I'd want, I'd go

1. Gafford or Lively (Mavericks)
2. Timelord
3. Mamu
4. Porzingis
5. Carter
6. Sabonis (if they are willing to trade him for White, Hauser + picks; Not Jaylen)
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Re: Time for a change?
« Reply #290 on: Today at 02:08:26 PM »

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Unless the Cavaliers are offering up Mobley in any deal, I'm not giving them Tatum or even Brown. I love Mitchell but even with him you can't ignore some of his flaws defensively and also, he may put up numbers but I'm not sure if he's really as impactful as we may think. I'd consider Jaylen for him but I don't think there's a significant difference between both guys.

I would explore White for Allen + a role player and picks like @Vermont Green suggested. I'm not high on Allen at all personally but I'd consider it if they whiff on other options like Sabonis, Wendell Carter, Mamu, Timelord, Porzingis, etc.

Mamu is a guy that I think is ready for a bigger role. I'd love him for something like the MLE.

I don't think he is ready for a bigger role.

Toronto were reluctant to even put him on the floor in the playoffs against Cleveland. Mamu had his minutes cut from 22mpg to 15mpg. It was because he couldn't defend anybody. He was a liability in man-to-man matchups and a liability in team defense.

Mamu is a nice offensive player. He is like Luka Garza. A better version of Luka Garza. That shooting ability is very nice. But neither guy can defend anyone at an adequate level. Neither one is a reliable rotation player come playoff time.

Regular season players.

Not playoff players.

Re: Time for a change?
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Unless the Cavaliers are offering up Mobley in any deal, I'm not giving them Tatum or even Brown. I love Mitchell but even with him you can't ignore some of his flaws defensively and also, he may put up numbers but I'm not sure if he's really as impactful as we may think. I'd consider Jaylen for him but I don't think there's a significant difference between both guys.

I would explore White for Allen + a role player and picks like @Vermont Green suggested. I'm not high on Allen at all personally but I'd consider it if they whiff on other options like Sabonis, Wendell Carter, Mamu, Timelord, Porzingis, etc.

Mobley is soft. He disappears in the postseason. I would rather have Derrick White over Mobley. JB and Tatum are completely out of the question.
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