Time for a change?

[Who]

I think he would be resistant to playing the five.   A lot of these modern bigs do not like playing center.  Davis, Giannis are prime examples, they are capable of this position but it is not their position of preference.  Embiid was bombing threes during our series, until they noticed our weakness than he played Center.

I mean, if he cares about winning, which it sounds like he does, I?d be surprised if he wouldn?t play some mins at Center. He has done it before.

Giannis doesn't like it. He is reluctant more than unwilling to play center. He likes playing next to another big man. That way he can play free safety on defense. Roam around. Leave to the center to protect the basket. Doesn't take as much of a beating on his body banging with bigger guys. Gets to defend more perimeter guys.

I agree Giannis should switch to center for this next period of his career. He had a great partner in B Lopez. Hard to replicate that although MIL did a great job getting M Turner. Few, if any, teams around the league will get him a center who can defend & spread the floor as well as those two guys can. Giannis is better playing center next to a natural PF who can spread the floor - easier fit to find.

Tatum (PF) and Giannis (C) would be incredibly difficult to matchup against. Reminds me of Durant & Giannis as an All-Star pairing. I guess opposing teams would hide their big on the SF or SG. Would Hauser start? Probably.

G: Pritchard
G: D White
F: Hauser
F: Tatum
C: Giannis

Hauser would be the only guy who can't create off the dribble. But he will spread the floor at an elite level.

[Goldstar88]

I think he would be resistant to playing the five.   A lot of these modern bigs do not like playing center.  Davis, Giannis are prime examples, they are capable of this position but it is not their position of preference.  Embiid was bombing threes during our series, until they noticed our weakness than he played Center.

I mean, if he cares about winning, which it sounds like he does, I?d be surprised if he wouldn?t play some mins at Center. He has done it before.

Giannis doesn't like it. He is reluctant more than unwilling to play center. He likes playing next to another big man. That way he can play free safety on defense. Roam around. Leave to the center to protect the basket. Doesn't take as much of a beating on his body banging with bigger guys. Gets to defend more perimeter guys.

I agree Giannis should switch to center for this next period of his career. He had a great partner in B Lopez. Hard to replicate that although MIL did a great job getting M Turner. Few, if any, teams around the league will get him a center who can defend & spread the floor as well as those two guys can. Giannis is better playing center next to a natural PF who can spread the floor - easier fit to find.

Tatum (PF) and Giannis (C) would be incredibly difficult to matchup against. Reminds me of Durant & Giannis as an All-Star pairing. I guess opposing teams would hide their big on the SF or SG. Would Hauser start? Probably.

G: Pritchard
G: D White
F: Hauser
F: Tatum
C: Giannis

Hauser would be the only guy who can't create off the dribble. But he will spread the floor at an elite level.

Thing is, there really aren?t too many big bruising centers in the league anymore. In the East you have Embiid and Duran. That?s about it.

[keevsnick]

I think he would be resistant to playing the five.   A lot of these modern bigs do not like playing center.  Davis, Giannis are prime examples, they are capable of this position but it is not their position of preference.  Embiid was bombing threes during our series, until they noticed our weakness than he played Center.

I mean, if he cares about winning, which it sounds like he does, I?d be surprised if he wouldn?t play some mins at Center. He has done it before.

Giannis doesn't like it. He is reluctant more than unwilling to play center. He likes playing next to another big man. That way he can play free safety on defense. Roam around. Leave to the center to protect the basket. Doesn't take as much of a beating on his body banging with bigger guys. Gets to defend more perimeter guys.

I agree Giannis should switch to center for this next period of his career. He had a great partner in B Lopez. Hard to replicate that although MIL did a great job getting M Turner. Few, if any, teams around the league will get him a center who can defend & spread the floor as well as those two guys can. Giannis is better playing center next to a natural PF who can spread the floor - easier fit to find.

Tatum (PF) and Giannis (C) would be incredibly difficult to matchup against. Reminds me of Durant & Giannis as an All-Star pairing. I guess opposing teams would hide their big on the SF or SG. Would Hauser start? Probably.

G: Pritchard
G: D White
F: Hauser
F: Tatum
C: Giannis

Hauser would be the only guy who can't create off the dribble. But he will spread the floor at an elite level.

Giannis absolutely CAN NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES BE YOUR STARTING CENTER.

Already this year we saw him struggle mighty with lower body injuries, asking him to be a 30% USG guy while also being your defensive anchor is a recipe for complete disaster.

There is a reason he's always paired with shooting center like Lopez/Turner, and it not just because he wants to play PF. Its because asking a guy to be your bets offensive player and best defensive player at the most important defensive position going into his 30's is not a sustaianble approach.

[snively]

Nic Claxton solves a lot of issues. Don't think the core needs to be broken up to fix this team.

[Celtics4ever]

Playing C is way more physical defense than guarding PF most of the time.   This would not apply to some PF, like Paul Silas.

I like the Claxton idea but how do you propose we make it happen.

[Goldstar88]

I think he would be resistant to playing the five.   A lot of these modern bigs do not like playing center.  Davis, Giannis are prime examples, they are capable of this position but it is not their position of preference.  Embiid was bombing threes during our series, until they noticed our weakness than he played Center.

I mean, if he cares about winning, which it sounds like he does, I?d be surprised if he wouldn?t play some mins at Center. He has done it before.

Giannis doesn't like it. He is reluctant more than unwilling to play center. He likes playing next to another big man. That way he can play free safety on defense. Roam around. Leave to the center to protect the basket. Doesn't take as much of a beating on his body banging with bigger guys. Gets to defend more perimeter guys.

I agree Giannis should switch to center for this next period of his career. He had a great partner in B Lopez. Hard to replicate that although MIL did a great job getting M Turner. Few, if any, teams around the league will get him a center who can defend & spread the floor as well as those two guys can. Giannis is better playing center next to a natural PF who can spread the floor - easier fit to find.

Tatum (PF) and Giannis (C) would be incredibly difficult to matchup against. Reminds me of Durant & Giannis as an All-Star pairing. I guess opposing teams would hide their big on the SF or SG. Would Hauser start? Probably.

G: Pritchard
G: D White
F: Hauser
F: Tatum
C: Giannis

Hauser would be the only guy who can't create off the dribble. But he will spread the floor at an elite level.

Giannis absolutely CAN NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES BE YOUR STARTING CENTER.

Already this year we saw him struggle mighty with lower body injuries, asking him to be a 30% USG guy while also being your defensive anchor is a recipe for complete disaster.

There is a reason he's always paired with shooting center like Lopez/Turner, and it not just because he wants to play PF. Its because asking a guy to be your bets offensive player and best defensive player at the most important defensive position going into his 30's is not a sustaianble approach.

By that logic, Embiid shouldn?t be playing center either.

[Moranis]

I think he would be resistant to playing the five.   A lot of these modern bigs do not like playing center.  Davis, Giannis are prime examples, they are capable of this position but it is not their position of preference.  Embiid was bombing threes during our series, until they noticed our weakness than he played Center.

I mean, if he cares about winning, which it sounds like he does, I?d be surprised if he wouldn?t play some mins at Center. He has done it before.

Giannis doesn't like it. He is reluctant more than unwilling to play center. He likes playing next to another big man. That way he can play free safety on defense. Roam around. Leave to the center to protect the basket. Doesn't take as much of a beating on his body banging with bigger guys. Gets to defend more perimeter guys.

I agree Giannis should switch to center for this next period of his career. He had a great partner in B Lopez. Hard to replicate that although MIL did a great job getting M Turner. Few, if any, teams around the league will get him a center who can defend & spread the floor as well as those two guys can. Giannis is better playing center next to a natural PF who can spread the floor - easier fit to find.

Tatum (PF) and Giannis (C) would be incredibly difficult to matchup against. Reminds me of Durant & Giannis as an All-Star pairing. I guess opposing teams would hide their big on the SF or SG. Would Hauser start? Probably.

G: Pritchard
G: D White
F: Hauser
F: Tatum
C: Giannis

Hauser would be the only guy who can't create off the dribble. But he will spread the floor at an elite level.

Giannis absolutely CAN NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES BE YOUR STARTING CENTER.

Already this year we saw him struggle mighty with lower body injuries, asking him to be a 30% USG guy while also being your defensive anchor is a recipe for complete disaster.

There is a reason he's always paired with shooting center like Lopez/Turner, and it not just because he wants to play PF. Its because asking a guy to be your bets offensive player and best defensive player at the most important defensive position going into his 30's is not a sustaianble approach.

By that logic, Embiid shouldn?t be playing center either.

Embiid is a lot heavier than Giannis.

[perks-a-beast]

If I have to hear JB for Giannis or JB for Durant rumors all summer long Im going to scream.

Im not necessarily opposed to trading JB, but if Brad does it needs to be for a war chest of promising young players and really good draft picks. Trading him for a guy who is injured every year or a guy now in his late 30?s would be a massive mistake. Just stay away from those two guys imo.

[celticinorlando]

I trust Brad to do the right thing. He rarely misses.

[RodyTur10]

Some perhaps realistic options where in most cases the Celtics should ask for additional assets:

LaMelo Ball (Hornets)
De'Aaron Fox (Spurs)
Jamal Murray (Nuggets)
Darius Garland (Clippers)
Trae Young (Wizards)

Donovan Mitchell (Cavaliers)
Devin Booker (Suns)

Kawhi Leonard (Clippers)
Amen Thompson (Rockets)
Paolo Banchero (Magic)
OG Anunoby (Knicks)
Trey Murphy (Pelicans)

Giannis Antetokounmpo (Bucks)
Zion Williamson (Pelicans)
Evan Mobley (Cavaliers)
Lauri Markkanen (Jazz)

Alperen Seng?n (Rockets)
Jalen Duren (Pistons)
Bam Adebayo (Heat)
Domantas Sabonis (Kings)

Current or future stars like f.e. Brunson, Maxey, Cunningham, SGA, Edwards, Knueppel, Doncic, Barnes, Flagg, Wagner, Holmgren, Towns, Wembanyama and Jokic are out of the picture I believe given their status, potential or importance.

As a side note I would love to see Robert Williams back this summer or give Paul Reed the chance to blossom as a solution to strengthen our center position.

[slightly biased bias fan]

Bill Simmons recently about Celtics offseason,

Is Jaylen on the Celtics next year? I am on the record that I want Jaylen to play his entire career on the Celtics. I just like Jaylen Brown and think he plays hard & he is durable.

But this would be the time to trade him right now, because he is earning 57, 61, 65 [million] over the next three years, Tatum is 58, 62, 67 [million].

If you are going to make a case to trade him [Brown], can you afford two guys making that much money?

[Goldstar88]

Some perhaps realistic options where in most cases the Celtics should ask for additional assets:

LaMelo Ball (Hornets)
De'Aaron Fox (Spurs)
Jamal Murray (Nuggets)
Darius Garland (Clippers)
Trae Young (Wizards)

Donovan Mitchell (Cavaliers)
Devin Booker (Suns)

Kawhi Leonard (Clippers)
Amen Thompson (Rockets)
Paolo Banchero (Magic)
OG Anunoby (Knicks)
Trey Murphy (Pelicans)

Giannis Antetokounmpo (Bucks)
Zion Williamson (Pelicans)
Evan Mobley (Cavaliers)
Lauri Markkanen (Jazz)

Alperen Seng?n (Rockets)
Jalen Duren (Pistons)
Bam Adebayo (Heat)
Domantas Sabonis (Kings)

Current or future stars like f.e. Brunson, Maxey, Cunningham, SGA, Edwards, Knueppel, Doncic, Barnes, Flagg, Wagner, Holmgren, Towns, Wembanyama and Jokic are out of the picture I believe given their status, potential or importance.

As a side note I would love to see Robert Williams back this summer or give Paul Reed the chance to blossom as a solution to strengthen our center position.

I?d 100% trade JB for Banchero. Paolo was impressive in the playoffs and has a ton of upside at 23 years old. Feel like Orlando would only do this if he asked to be moved.

[Who]

Nic Claxton solves a lot of issues. Don't think the core needs to be broken up to fix this team.

I'd love to get Nic Claxton. Claxton & Queta would be a quality 2 headed center rotation. Like the Mavs had when they made the Finals with Luka & Kyrie with D Lively and D Gafford. Claxton & Queta would be our D Lively and D Gafford.

[Vermont Green]

Giannis or bust for Brown. I do not care who plays center. Giannis is as much a center as Horford or Porzingis. I would be OK with Banchero also, but I can not imagine him being traded. 

Much less interested in trading Brown for picks and prospects. 

[keevsnick]

I think he would be resistant to playing the five.   A lot of these modern bigs do not like playing center.  Davis, Giannis are prime examples, they are capable of this position but it is not their position of preference.  Embiid was bombing threes during our series, until they noticed our weakness than he played Center.

I mean, if he cares about winning, which it sounds like he does, I?d be surprised if he wouldn?t play some mins at Center. He has done it before.

Giannis doesn't like it. He is reluctant more than unwilling to play center. He likes playing next to another big man. That way he can play free safety on defense. Roam around. Leave to the center to protect the basket. Doesn't take as much of a beating on his body banging with bigger guys. Gets to defend more perimeter guys.

I agree Giannis should switch to center for this next period of his career. He had a great partner in B Lopez. Hard to replicate that although MIL did a great job getting M Turner. Few, if any, teams around the league will get him a center who can defend & spread the floor as well as those two guys can. Giannis is better playing center next to a natural PF who can spread the floor - easier fit to find.

Tatum (PF) and Giannis (C) would be incredibly difficult to matchup against. Reminds me of Durant & Giannis as an All-Star pairing. I guess opposing teams would hide their big on the SF or SG. Would Hauser start? Probably.

G: Pritchard
G: D White
F: Hauser
F: Tatum
C: Giannis

Hauser would be the only guy who can't create off the dribble. But he will spread the floor at an elite level.

Giannis absolutely CAN NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES BE YOUR STARTING CENTER.

Already this year we saw him struggle mighty with lower body injuries, asking him to be a 30% USG guy while also being your defensive anchor is a recipe for complete disaster.

There is a reason he's always paired with shooting center like Lopez/Turner, and it not just because he wants to play PF. Its because asking a guy to be your bets offensive player and best defensive player at the most important defensive position going into his 30's is not a sustaianble approach.

By that logic, Embiid shouldn?t be playing center either.

I mean this sort of proves my point? Embiid can't stay healthy. hasn't for years. That's the entire point.