Is Scheierman A Wasted Pick?

[slightly biased bias fan]

Baylor Scheierman is circling towards being a bust. His sophomore season looks as promising as his rookie. If Scheierman was a young prospect, the Celtics should have more patience. But given Baylor is already 25, there might not be much more of a ceiling.

One of his theoretical positives was being more NBA ready than other draft prospects, but obviously that is not the case.

Given Scheierman was the 30th pick of the 2024 NBA draft, not getting much production is fairly common. Unfortunately for the Celtics, multiple players selected after him have already become productive roster contributors.

32nd pick - Kyle Filipowski (21 y/o)

35th pick - Johnny Furphy (20 y/o)

38th pick - Ajay Mitchell (23 y/o)

39th pick - Jaylen Wells (22 y/o)

44th pick - Pelle Larsson (24 y/o)

52nd pick - Quinten Post (25 y/o)

[Who]

I have given up on him.

[slightly biased bias fan]

I have given up on him.

To be honest, I was never a Scheierman fan.

Scheierman is obviously a high I.Q basketballer, but in my opinion, he does not have enough lateral quickness to play meaningful minutes in the NBA.

At the time of the 2024 draft, I preferred Furphy. He had the athleticism and fundamentals to be someone like a Pat Connaughton. After seeing more of the other rookies, I really think the Celtics should have grabbed Jaylen Wells.

[Celtics4ever]

I have given up on him.

To be honest, I was never a Scheierman fan.

Scheierman is obviously a high I.Q basketballer, but in my opinion, he does not have enough lateral quickness to play meaningful minutes in the NBA.

At the time of the 2024 draft, I preferred Furphy. He had the athleticism and fundamentals to be someone like a Pat Connaughton. After seeing more of the other rookies, I really think the Celtics should have grabbed Jaylen Wells.

I concur, he is a smart player, but he is a streaky shooter and very clever passer.   He struggles with athletic players because he is not fast and not a great leaper.   His hand eye coordination is solid and he is strong enough to hold his position when boxing out.  Fast twitch athletic ability is one of the hardest things to improve.

[Roy H.]

He seems like a nice enough guy, but he doesn't have "it".

Passing on Filipowski will never make sense to me.

[SHAQATTACK]

I?m not on his bandwagon any more .


I?m a Red Auerbach fan.  I ll never change my drafting view . 

[Moranis]

To be fair, Scheierman has the highest 3PT% on the team (5 of 10) and he hasn't missed a 2PT shot all year (only 2 shots but still hasn't missed).  If he can get some more shots and still hit them very well, he could certainly carve out a role.  If Hauser is going to keep missing shots that badly, I wouldn't mind giving either Scheierman or Walsh a few more minutes a game to see if they can maintain the shooting.  The defense will come with playing time so if they keep hitting the shots, give them more time.

[boscel33]

Yes! #shouldhavebeenkyle!

[Neurotic Guy]

He?s been ok to start the year. I?m not sure he?s a bust. Also glad to see a solid contribution from Walsh yesterday. 

[hwangjini_1]

making final and sweeping evaluations on a player who have played a total of 39 games and 454 minutes in the NBA. i must be in CS.

patience before pronouncing a player as a waste might be the wiser route here.

[slamtheking]

making final and sweeping evaluations on a player who have played a total of 39 games and 454 minutes in the NBA. i must be in CS.

patience before pronouncing a player as a waste might be the wiser route here.

agreed, a bit early to label him a bust.  disappointing so far, sure.  a bust, TBD.

[Atzar]

Can a #30 pick even BE a bust?

When I think of a draft bust, I'm thinking about a top 5 guy who washes out, not... Baylor Scheierman, final pick of the first round, lol.

Outside of the lottery I'm mostly just hoping a solid percentage of the picks contribute something.  Much more interested in long-term trends across years, rather than whether one guy panned out or whether some other schmuck two picks later wound up better.   Because success rate isn't very good across the league in that range, and we're all in an arms race trying to develop the crystal ball that would let us see that overperforming schmuck coming but nobody has it yet.

Overall I feel like Brad's hit rate late in the draft hasn't been good to date, but he does a great job covering for any perceived draft weakness by scouting out decent-to-good rotation players from the bargain bin.  So if a pick like Scheierman doesn't work out, I'm not broken up about it.



EDIT:  On the topic of Filipowski:  it's worth keeping in mind that our current frontcourt black hole did not exist when we were making that pick.  Yeah, he'd be nice to have NOW.  At the time we made the pick, we had KP and Horford under contract and were in the process of re-signing Kornet, Tillman (back when we thought we had fleeced the Grizzlies out of a good rotation big man) and Queta. 

SECOND EDIT:  Pritchard was an Ainge pick so I removed that bit.

[Roy H.]

it.

EDIT:  On the topic of Filipowski:  it's worth keeping in mind that our current frontcourt black hole did not exist when we were making that pick.  Yeah, he'd be nice to have NOW.  At the time we made the pick, we had KP and Horford under contract and were in the process of re-signing Kornet, Tillman (back when we thought we had fleeced the Grizzlies out of a good rotation big man) and Queta

We knew Horford was nearing retirement and needed to be replaced.  Brad also said he's known the team would be blown up since the Bragdon trade.  So, needing a big was pretty foreseeable.

[Vermont Green]

I am starting to feel like Scheierman is not going to make it.  His window has not entirely closed, but at 25, and based on what I have seen, however limited, his window is only open a crack.  But I agree that he is a 30th pick so what are the expectations?  He probably is underachieving relative to an average 30th pick, but not really by all that much.

Filipowski is probably more average for a 30th pick.  A role player on a bad team, so far.  His ceiling might be Luke Kornet who people on this forum disparaged for years.  Filipowski is looking like a better pick than Scheierman, but what is the big deal here?

[Moranis]

it.

EDIT:  On the topic of Filipowski:  it's worth keeping in mind that our current frontcourt black hole did not exist when we were making that pick.  Yeah, he'd be nice to have NOW.  At the time we made the pick, we had KP and Horford under contract and were in the process of re-signing Kornet, Tillman (back when we thought we had fleeced the Grizzlies out of a good rotation big man) and Queta

We knew Horford was nearing retirement and needed to be replaced.  Brad also said he's known the team would be blown up since the Bragdon trade.  So, needing a big was pretty foreseeable.

not necessarily. I mean it could have been White moved with KP and a re-signed Horford still here