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Re: Is Scheierman A Wasted Pick?
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EDIT:  On the topic of Filipowski:  it's worth keeping in mind that our current frontcourt black hole did not exist when we were making that pick.  Yeah, he'd be nice to have NOW.  At the time we made the pick, we had KP and Horford under contract and were in the process of re-signing Kornet, Tillman (back when we thought we had fleeced the Grizzlies out of a good rotation big man) and Queta

We knew Horford was nearing retirement and needed to be replaced.  Brad also said he's known the team would be blown up since the Bragdon trade.  So, needing a big was pretty foreseeable.
not necessarily. I mean it could have been White moved with KP and a re-signed Horford still here

Horford for what, one season?  He's 39 years old.  It's pretty foreseeable that those guys would need to be replaced.



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Re: Is Scheierman A Wasted Pick?
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EDIT:  On the topic of Filipowski:  it's worth keeping in mind that our current frontcourt black hole did not exist when we were making that pick.  Yeah, he'd be nice to have NOW.  At the time we made the pick, we had KP and Horford under contract and were in the process of re-signing Kornet, Tillman (back when we thought we had fleeced the Grizzlies out of a good rotation big man) and Queta

We knew Horford was nearing retirement and needed to be replaced.  Brad also said he's known the team would be blown up since the Bragdon trade.  So, needing a big was pretty foreseeable.
not necessarily. I mean it could have been White moved with KP and a re-signed Horford still here

Horford for what, one season?  He's 39 years old.  It's pretty foreseeable that those guys would need to be replaced.

I think the point is at the time that Scheierman was drafted, what was the immediate need?  Plenty of people were saying that BOS needed another shooter.  A prospect big to replace Horford some time in the future was not the priority.  Now it turned out that Scheierman did not help the team.  Scheierman has not even lived up to the limited expectation of a 30th pick.  But was the philosophy of picking a player you hoped could help now the wrong philosophy?  The player you hoped was more NBA ready?

I guess you could debate whether it was smarter to try and draft the more NBA ready player or a future replacement for Horford.  Either could be a good reason to draft a player.  I thought Scheierman was an OK pick at the time, I was wrong.  I usually am regarding draft picks.  There is no way to know.  Filipowski seemed like there was some risk.  Some family issues or something.  Turns out those were nothing.  I was wrong about him too.  But I would not be concerned about using the 30th pick and expecting the player to replace Horford a year later.  Filipowski may be an upgrade over Garza but he is no Horford replacement.

Re: Is Scheierman A Wasted Pick?
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EDIT:  On the topic of Filipowski:  it's worth keeping in mind that our current frontcourt black hole did not exist when we were making that pick.  Yeah, he'd be nice to have NOW.  At the time we made the pick, we had KP and Horford under contract and were in the process of re-signing Kornet, Tillman (back when we thought we had fleeced the Grizzlies out of a good rotation big man) and Queta

We knew Horford was nearing retirement and needed to be replaced.  Brad also said he's known the team would be blown up since the Bragdon trade.  So, needing a big was pretty foreseeable.
not necessarily. I mean it could have been White moved with KP and a re-signed Horford still here

Horford for what, one season?  He's 39 years old.  It's pretty foreseeable that those guys would need to be replaced.

I think the point is at the time that Scheierman was drafted, what was the immediate need?  Plenty of people were saying that BOS needed another shooter.  A prospect big to replace Horford some time in the future was not the priority.  Now it turned out that Scheierman did not help the team.  Scheierman has not even lived up to the limited expectation of a 30th pick.  But was the philosophy of picking a player you hoped could help now the wrong philosophy?  The player you hoped was more NBA ready?

I guess you could debate whether it was smarter to try and draft the more NBA ready player or a future replacement for Horford.  Either could be a good reason to draft a player.  I thought Scheierman was an OK pick at the time, I was wrong.  I usually am regarding draft picks.  There is no way to know.  Filipowski seemed like there was some risk.  Some family issues or something.  Turns out those were nothing.  I was wrong about him too.  But I would not be concerned about using the 30th pick and expecting the player to replace Horford a year later.  Filipowski may be an upgrade over Garza but he is no Horford replacement.

Go back and read the draft threads.  The consensus was that we needed another big.


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Re: Is Scheierman A Wasted Pick?
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He?s a healthy scratch tonight. Doesn?t seem like Baylor has improved at all from last year and he?s already 25.
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