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Zion Williamson, hear me out!
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Offline lbgreen33

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Okay, Many of us want to trade A Simons. I still want to see him play. Well how about this, we let Simons start the season and let's say he puts up some good numbers.
Then, we put a package with him in it for Zion Williamson.  Here is the thing, the Pelicans drafted Queen, who looks like he can fill Zion's role.  Zion can't stay on the court. So, why do it for us? I would be willing to take a chance on Zion and this seems like the Perfect season to do it. Roy and others can weigh in on his contract, but I thought I read the last 3 years are now not guaranteed because of all the games he missed. If that is true, let's take a swing for the fences and see if our team can help him stay on the court. When healthy he is an incredible talent and would fit amazing with the Js.

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I think NOP would probably do better than our offer, but sure, I'd take him on at a modest price.  Simons + Hauser + Tillman + picks works.


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I think NOP would probably do better than our offer, but sure, I'd take him on at a modest price.  Simons + Hauser + Tillman + picks works.
Thanks Roy!! This seems like the Perfect year to do this! What else do we have to do? Rooting for Zion to stay healthy would be scary and fun all at the same time!!

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I'd be reluctant to part with more than 2 picks and I'd like some protection.  It's just too much risk for a guy that will most likely not be able to stay on the court.

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it's somewhat similar to the idea of when we got Zinger -- move decent players for someone who could be a dynamic piece in a championship drive if they can stay on the court. 

I get the allure but when Zinger was acquired the team had more depth than they do now and Zinger was looking healthier than he had in quite awhile which cannot be said for Zion.  Using what little depth we have for what could be a big swing-and-a-miss on Zion would be a real setback with even less assets to improve the team. 

a healthy Zion has them as a top team in the East in 26-27.  An injury-riddled Zion puts them in the dreaded treadmill position of good enough to be a low-level playoff team saddled with middling draft picks unlikely to turn into the next star player they need or to become more than an end-of-rotation player

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I?ll pass.

Injury prone players are always healthy at the least important times.  Of course he?d be healthy during a throw away season and promptly tear his acl right when we?re all in on a title run the following year.

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Think cost is main issue, three first is just starting a conversation.

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If it takes 3 firsts to start the conversation, then I am definitely out.  If the conversation starts with Simons, Hauser, and Tillman, then I am in.  There are huge risks with him.  Only 30 games last season.  Career average is only 43 games per season.  If I was NOP, I would be pretty open to cutting my losses on him, building around the next generation of young players they have been drafting.  I am not sure how good of a deal that NOP could get.  I am not sure then can do way better than this.

If they can get some good play out of him between the start of the season and the trade deadline, it would increase his value pretty quickly.  But that is a risk for them too.  He could get hurt again and his value would drop to nothing.  A change of scenery after a humbling trade might be good for Zion, you just don't know.  His contract is not that bad if he plays even close to his potential.

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I wouldn't trade the 26 pick, but any other is fine. And I'd do that easily without a 2nd thought.  Zion is less healthy than Embiid, but when he plays he is REALLY REALLY good.  Efficient skilled, and everything you'd want a PF to be (well not everything, as he is a poor defender).  He is the right kind of gamble to take.
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I wouldn't trade the 26 pick, but any other is fine. And I'd do that easily without a 2nd thought.  Zion is less healthy than Embiid, but when he plays he is REALLY REALLY good.  Efficient skilled, and everything you'd want a PF to be (well not everything, as he is a poor defender).  He is the right kind of gamble to take.

Just curious, why do you want to hold onto the 2026 pick?

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I wouldn't trade the 26 pick, but any other is fine. And I'd do that easily without a 2nd thought.  Zion is less healthy than Embiid, but when he plays he is REALLY REALLY good.  Efficient skilled, and everything you'd want a PF to be (well not everything, as he is a poor defender).  He is the right kind of gamble to take.

Just curious, why do you want to hold onto the 2026 pick?

I am assuming that with Tatum out, this pick is expected to be much better than would be expected for a pick in 2027 and beyond.

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I wouldn't trade the 26 pick, but any other is fine. And I'd do that easily without a 2nd thought.  Zion is less healthy than Embiid, but when he plays he is REALLY REALLY good.  Efficient skilled, and everything you'd want a PF to be (well not everything, as he is a poor defender).  He is the right kind of gamble to take.

Just curious, why do you want to hold onto the 2026 pick?

I am assuming that with Tatum out, this pick is expected to be much better than would be expected for a pick in 2027 and beyond.
yes. Unless Zion played most of the season I'd expect Boston to be in the lottery this year so I wouldn't want to trade the pick, but I'd probably do 2, maybe 3 future picks.  I wonder if Boston could get Missi as well with that 3rd pick and maybe Scheierman

So

Simons, Tillman, Hauser, Scheuerman, 27 1st, 29 1st, 31 1st

for

Zion, Missi

Boston (with Tatum in 26-27)
White, Brown, Tatum, Zion, Missi
PP, 26 1st, Queta, Minott, Garza, Boucher, Walsh

A contender next year if Tatum mostly recovers and especially if that 26 pick is a high lotto pick. Even with Zion having a huge health question mark.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

You watch, Simons will be our leading scorer this season, he can get a hoop whenever he wants to...Zion doesn't wanna play.
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