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Re: Mazzulla has signed a multi-year contract extension.
« Reply #30 on: August 09, 2025, 08:21:44 PM »

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I think it was their only option to double down on their decision and give Mazzulla & the players stability.

In saying that, I have always wanted Rick Carlisle, and he should have been signed after Udoka left.

I do think Mazzulla is an extremely intelligent and talented coach, but he is too inexperienced for a team with title aspirations. Inexperienced coaches make inexperienced mistakes and we have seen that over the past 3 seasons.

I like Carlisle as well, but the Celtics did win a championship with Joe as HC not too long ago.
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Re: Mazzulla has signed a multi-year contract extension.
« Reply #31 on: August 10, 2025, 03:53:07 PM »

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I think it was their only option to double down on their decision and give Mazzulla & the players stability.

In saying that, I have always wanted Rick Carlisle, and he should have been signed after Udoka left.

I do think Mazzulla is an extremely intelligent and talented coach, but he is too inexperienced for a team with title aspirations. Inexperienced coaches make inexperienced mistakes and we have seen that over the past 3 seasons.

I like Carlisle as well, but the Celtics did win a championship with Joe as HC not too long ago.

Yeah I agree Joe coached us to a Title.  But I still don't know how much of that was him, or was most of it just JT/JB finally getting over the hump, and having great team mates as well.   Jrue, D White were huge during that playoff run to the title too.  I think that another coach could have easily won the title with that team.

Re: Mazzulla has signed a multi-year contract extension.
« Reply #32 on: August 10, 2025, 05:17:30 PM »

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I think it was their only option to double down on their decision and give Mazzulla & the players stability.

In saying that, I have always wanted Rick Carlisle, and he should have been signed after Udoka left.

I do think Mazzulla is an extremely intelligent and talented coach, but he is too inexperienced for a team with title aspirations. Inexperienced coaches make inexperienced mistakes and we have seen that over the past 3 seasons.

I like Carlisle as well, but the Celtics did win a championship with Joe as HC not too long ago.

Yeah I agree Joe coached us to a Title.  But I still don't know how much of that was him, or was most of it just JT/JB finally getting over the hump, and having great team mates as well.   Jrue, D White were huge during that playoff run to the title too.  I think that another coach could have easily won the title with that team.

I think it?s 90% on the players regardless of who the coach is. They won with Joe and the players like him. Thus the extension.
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At some point you have to blame the performance on the court on the players on the court. Every loss is not the coach's fault and every win isn't because of the players.

Re: Mazzulla has signed a multi-year contract extension.
« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2025, 04:20:05 AM »

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I think it was their only option to double down on their decision and give Mazzulla & the players stability.

In saying that, I have always wanted Rick Carlisle, and he should have been signed after Udoka left.

I do think Mazzulla is an extremely intelligent and talented coach, but he is too inexperienced for a team with title aspirations. Inexperienced coaches make inexperienced mistakes and we have seen that over the past 3 seasons.

I like Carlisle as well, but the Celtics did win a championship with Joe as HC not too long ago.

Yeah I agree Joe coached us to a Title.  But I still don't know how much of that was him, or was most of it just JT/JB finally getting over the hump, and having great team mates as well.   Jrue, D White were huge during that playoff run to the title too.  I think that another coach could have easily won the title with that team.
You can make this argument about every single coach who has ever won a title, though. No coach wins a title without great players playing great basketball.
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Re: Mazzulla has signed a multi-year contract extension.
« Reply #34 on: Yesterday at 11:12:57 AM »

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I would have waited until mid season to see if he can coach without great players but it is what it is folks.

Re: Mazzulla has signed a multi-year contract extension.
« Reply #35 on: Yesterday at 12:25:29 PM »

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I think it was their only option to double down on their decision and give Mazzulla & the players stability.

In saying that, I have always wanted Rick Carlisle, and he should have been signed after Udoka left.

I do think Mazzulla is an extremely intelligent and talented coach, but he is too inexperienced for a team with title aspirations. Inexperienced coaches make inexperienced mistakes and we have seen that over the past 3 seasons.

I like Carlisle as well, but the Celtics did win a championship with Joe as HC not too long ago.

Yeah I agree Joe coached us to a Title.  But I still don't know how much of that was him, or was most of it just JT/JB finally getting over the hump, and having great team mates as well.   Jrue, D White were huge during that playoff run to the title too.  I think that another coach could have easily won the title with that team.

They/he also won with a depleted playing field so something else to factor that in


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Re: Mazzulla has signed a multi-year contract extension.
« Reply #36 on: Today at 08:29:20 AM »

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I think it was their only option to double down on their decision and give Mazzulla & the players stability.

In saying that, I have always wanted Rick Carlisle, and he should have been signed after Udoka left.

I do think Mazzulla is an extremely intelligent and talented coach, but he is too inexperienced for a team with title aspirations. Inexperienced coaches make inexperienced mistakes and we have seen that over the past 3 seasons.

I like Carlisle as well, but the Celtics did win a championship with Joe as HC not too long ago.

Yeah I agree Joe coached us to a Title.  But I still don't know how much of that was him, or was most of it just JT/JB finally getting over the hump, and having great team mates as well.   Jrue, D White were huge during that playoff run to the title too.  I think that another coach could have easily won the title with that team.

They/he also won with a depleted playing field so something else to factor that in
He also had a depleted roster which seems to conveniently get ignored.

I'm no Joe apologist and think his playing style is hot garbage but this narrative of the C's winning a title against weak competition is crap especially when those same people fail to acknowledge the C's were not at full strength either. 

Re: Mazzulla has signed a multi-year contract extension.
« Reply #37 on: Today at 09:20:09 AM »

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I think it was their only option to double down on their decision and give Mazzulla & the players stability.

In saying that, I have always wanted Rick Carlisle, and he should have been signed after Udoka left.

I do think Mazzulla is an extremely intelligent and talented coach, but he is too inexperienced for a team with title aspirations. Inexperienced coaches make inexperienced mistakes and we have seen that over the past 3 seasons.

I like Carlisle as well, but the Celtics did win a championship with Joe as HC not too long ago.

Yeah I agree Joe coached us to a Title.  But I still don't know how much of that was him, or was most of it just JT/JB finally getting over the hump, and having great team mates as well.   Jrue, D White were huge during that playoff run to the title too.  I think that another coach could have easily won the title with that team.

They/he also won with a depleted playing field so something else to factor that in

Dallas was the best team to come out of the West. How were they depleted again? This is such a dumb narrative.
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Re: Mazzulla has signed a multi-year contract extension.
« Reply #38 on: Today at 09:41:23 AM »

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Mazzulla part of a championship team & that?s all that matters
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Re: Mazzulla has signed a multi-year contract extension.
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Re: Mazzulla has signed a multi-year contract extension.
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Playoffs, Playoffs?  Are you talking about playoffs?  Playoffs?

50 wins would be a miracle and, for that matter, a waste.

Coach to win. Having players and coaches with the ability to perform well without their best player is not a waste. Developing talent and a winning mentality is plenty valuable, potentially more than a chance at one good asset/prospect.

More important than that, is to coach to develop your key young players. Allow them to sink or swim and learn from their mistakes. I'm not saying tank, but rather develop.  That includes JB.

Re: Mazzulla has signed a multi-year contract extension.
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Will Joe win a second title or is he Doc Rivers ?

Re: Mazzulla has signed a multi-year contract extension.
« Reply #42 on: Today at 08:23:32 PM »

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Playoffs, Playoffs?  Are you talking about playoffs?  Playoffs?

50 wins would be a miracle and, for that matter, a waste.

Coach to win. Having players and coaches with the ability to perform well without their best player is not a waste. Developing talent and a winning mentality is plenty valuable, potentially more than a chance at one good asset/prospect.

More important than that, is to coach to develop your key young players. Allow them to sink or swim and learn from their mistakes. I'm not saying tank, but rather develop.  That includes JB.
Maybe JB gets the playmaking boost the way Pierce got the C's tank year with him. Pierce really feed and pushed the young guys and accepted a growth+tank year for the club. That passing and playmaking helped when Ray, KG and the assisting cast got here. The attitude should be to help your squad mates grow.

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« Reply #43 on: Today at 08:55:14 PM »

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I think it was their only option to double down on their decision and give Mazzulla & the players stability.

In saying that, I have always wanted Rick Carlisle, and he should have been signed after Udoka left.

I do think Mazzulla is an extremely intelligent and talented coach, but he is too inexperienced for a team with title aspirations. Inexperienced coaches make inexperienced mistakes and we have seen that over the past 3 seasons.

I like Carlisle as well, but the Celtics did win a championship with Joe as HC not too long ago.

Yeah I agree Joe coached us to a Title.  But I still don't know how much of that was him, or was most of it just JT/JB finally getting over the hump, and having great team mates as well.   Jrue, D White were huge during that playoff run to the title too.  I think that another coach could have easily won the title with that team.
You can make this argument about every single coach who has ever won a title, though. No coach wins a title without great players playing great basketball.

I suspect it's kind of like listening to a symphony orchestra...everyone has to play their part to create harmony that inspires. It's not because of any one person, it's just how the whole comes together. And because it's about group synergy, it's not as easy as saying "I will replace the conductor, or the trombone player, because I don't like them", because that might affect the whole sound. You might replace them with an individually better person, and the orchestra might still be good, but there might be that something special missing that the other group had. Team of champions vs champion team, whole is greater than the sum of the parts and all that.
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Re: Mazzulla has signed a multi-year contract extension.
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I think it was their only option to double down on their decision and give Mazzulla & the players stability.

In saying that, I have always wanted Rick Carlisle, and he should have been signed after Udoka left.

I do think Mazzulla is an extremely intelligent and talented coach, but he is too inexperienced for a team with title aspirations. Inexperienced coaches make inexperienced mistakes and we have seen that over the past 3 seasons.

I like Carlisle as well, but the Celtics did win a championship with Joe as HC not too long ago.

Yeah I agree Joe coached us to a Title.  But I still don't know how much of that was him, or was most of it just JT/JB finally getting over the hump, and having great team mates as well.   Jrue, D White were huge during that playoff run to the title too.  I think that another coach could have easily won the title with that team.

They/he also won with a depleted playing field so something else to factor that in

Dallas was the best team to come out of the West. How were they depleted again? This is such a dumb narrative.

I think the narrative was about the East with Rozier/Butler/Herro, Mitchell/Allen/LeVert, and Haliburton all being injured paving an easy way for the Celtics to the Finals. And they drew a 5-seeded Mavericks team who unfortunately had matchup nightmares with the Celtics.


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