Our bigs going forward

[Phantom255x]

Who's up for the Cs trading for Walker Kessler?

I've been up for that the past year lol

[liam]

The few snippets of Amari Williams starting at center, 36 games for Kentucky, show a skilled passer, strong rebounder, a former soccer player who gets up and down the floor, can push the ball and pass off the dribble. His interviews show a thoughtful, well spoken, hungry player.  I have high hopes for Amari.  Everyone needs to remember that Jokic was drated 41st.  Hopes for a hidden gem are there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvlJCdqDKws

Williams looks like Russell in these highlights... LOL

[Moranis]

Boston has no real good way to aquire Kessler unless it is part of a trade involving Brown or White.

[Celtics4ever]

Williams looks like Russell in these highlights... LOL

That is the problem with highlights..  Everyone looks good in their highlight reels, as they don't show faults, mistakes or mishaps.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Boston has no real good way to aquire Kessler unless it is part of a trade involving Brown or White.

Wow - you must think pretty highly of Kessler!!! Lol. Celtic fans must not be staying up late to watch random Utah games on a Tuesday night. Kessler is a fine center, but not that level.

Plus, the report is that the Jazz want a young player and 2 firsts for him - not a finals MVP or a fringe all-star guard.

[wiley]

Next season will be a year?s worth of small ball imo. 
If no changes made, a lot of Niang snd Minott at center.
Maybe they?ll try to run like that GSW team way back:
Can?t remember the players?T Hardaway, Mullin? Harrington, etc..(I think that?s the group?.a no center team..). 

[Neurotic Guy]

I think there?s a pretty good chance that George?s Niang will be pretty popular among fans at the Garden. He?ll hit a lot of threes here and probably won?t miss many games to injury - if his history is an indicator.  No one would suggest that he holds a candle to KP as a player, but if he has a role that he can consistently (yes, a question mark) fill, how much less valuable is he than KP who is constantly a stones throw from his next injury?  KP?s value is largely based on what could be. Not what he actually is.  40 games of KP v. 80 games of Niang feels at least a little closer in value than on the surface. 

I?d take KP since losing Niang isn?t much of a gamble for Atlanta.  But we?ll see how it plays out.

[liam]

Williams looks like Russell in these highlights... LOL

That is the problem with highlights..  Everyone looks good in their highlight reels, as they don't show faults, mistakes or mishaps.

Exactly...

[Vermont Green]

Next season will be a year?s worth of small ball imo. 
If no changes made, a lot of Niang snd Minott at center.
Maybe they?ll try to run like that GSW team way back:
Can?t remember the players?T Hardaway, Mullin? Harrington, etc..(I think that?s the group?.a no center team..).

Even OKC. They played 4 guards and a 7-footer most of the time. That is going to be the 2025-26 Celtics.  Maybe Niang or Tillman play some as a second sort of big but I expect a lot of the OKC style line ups. 

[wiley]

Next season will be a year?s worth of small ball imo. 
If no changes made, a lot of Niang snd Minott at center.
Maybe they?ll try to run like that GSW team way back:
Can?t remember the players?T Hardaway, Mullin? Harrington, etc..(I think that?s the group?.a no center team..).

Even OKC. They played 4 guards and a 7-footer most of the time. That is going to be the 2025-26 Celtics.  Maybe Niang or Tillman play some as a second sort of big but I expect a lot of the OKC style line ups.

If playing a true big, I imagine it?s Garza they hope to turn into a three-happy outside shooter.  Minott?s skills at pf could then be more useful.  But I also expect rotations of Niang and Minott together.  Queta may improve but it will be the three that allows Garza to overtake him in rotation as the C?s try to stick to their philosophy.  Of course Garza may flop or not be ready for this.
With Queta on the floor then Hauser at 4 seems likely. 

[KeepBigAl]

I think there?s a pretty good chance that George?s Niang will be pretty popular among fans at the Garden. He?ll hit a lot of threes here and probably won?t miss many games to injury - if his history is an indicator.  No one would suggest that he holds a candle to KP as a player, but if he has a role that he can consistently (yes, a question mark) fill, how much less valuable is he than KP who is constantly a stones throw from his next injury?  KP?s value is largely based on what could be. Not what he actually is.  40 games of KP v. 80 games of Niang feels at least a little closer in value than on the surface. 

I?d take KP since losing Niang isn?t much of a gamble for Atlanta.  But we?ll see how it plays out.

Niang is not a starting caliber player on a good team.  Too slow to guard wings and too small to stop bigs.  He can make 3s but has a below average handle and first step.  At best, a bench guy that will play hard and hit open jumpshots - and could score double digits consistently if your team is bad enough to need it from him.   If we are planning to tank, then he's fine I guess, otherwise, I'd hate to see him as a starter here.

KP was a giant net positive defensively when he was able to play and Niang is a net negative - so I'd take KP for just the chance he could be a playoff contributor if winning is the goal.

[jambr380]

Boston has no real good way to aquire Kessler unless it is part of a trade involving Brown or White.

Wow - you must think pretty highly of Kessler!!! Lol. Celtic fans must not be staying up late to watch random Utah games on a Tuesday night. Kessler is a fine center, but not that level.

Plus, the report is that the Jazz want a young player and 2 firsts for him - not a finals MVP or a fringe all-star guard.

Brad just said in his press conference that he is trying to maintain their picks through this year so that they have flexibility moving forward. There is no way the team is giving up two 1sts and say Scheierman in order to pay Kessler a boatload next summer. Kessler is a good player, but I just don't think that's what we're looking to do right now. If we were, we'd be using a 1st or two along with Simons in a trade to really balance our roster and acquire talent. Heck, we probably would have kept KP and just offloaded Simons.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

I think there?s a pretty good chance that George?s Niang will be pretty popular among fans at the Garden. He?ll hit a lot of threes here and probably won?t miss many games to injury - if his history is an indicator.  No one would suggest that he holds a candle to KP as a player, but if he has a role that he can consistently (yes, a question mark) fill, how much less valuable is he than KP who is constantly a stones throw from his next injury?  KP?s value is largely based on what could be. Not what he actually is.  40 games of KP v. 80 games of Niang feels at least a little closer in value than on the surface. 

I?d take KP since losing Niang isn?t much of a gamble for Atlanta.  But we?ll see how it plays out.

Niang is not a starting caliber player on a good team.  Too slow to guard wings and too small to stop bigs.  He can make 3s but has a below average handle and first step.  At best, a bench guy that will play hard and hit open jumpshots - and could score double digits consistently if your team is bad enough to need it from him.   If we are planning to tank, then he's fine I guess, otherwise, I'd hate to see him as a starter here.

KP was a giant net positive defensively when he was able to play and Niang is a net negative - so I'd take KP for just the chance he could be a playoff contributor if winning is the goal.

I don't like Niang. I don't enjoy watching him play. I really don't enjoy watching players that can't play defense.

However, he was a 20 mpg rotation player for a playoff Sixers team for several years, and then the Cavs last year during their historic offense start to the season (interestingly, their offense fell off when they traded him, but that's more correlation than causation).

On a team that doesn't have any other proven NBA rotation bigs, he probably is our starter at 24 minutes a game.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Boston has no real good way to aquire Kessler unless it is part of a trade involving Brown or White.

Wow - you must think pretty highly of Kessler!!! Lol. Celtic fans must not be staying up late to watch random Utah games on a Tuesday night. Kessler is a fine center, but not that level.

Plus, the report is that the Jazz want a young player and 2 firsts for him - not a finals MVP or a fringe all-star guard.

Brad just said in his press conference that he is trying to maintain their picks through this year so that they have flexibility moving forward. There is no way the team is giving up two 1sts and say Scheierman in order to pay Kessler a boatload next summer. Kessler is a good player, but I just don't think that's what we're looking to do right now. If we were, we'd be using a 1st or two along with Simons in a trade to really balance our roster and acquire talent. Heck, we probably would have kept KP and just offloaded Simons.

Oh I agree with you. I wouldn't trade that much for Kessler, but that is the reported price for him.

I was contrasting the reported price with what Moranis was saying we'd need to trade.

[ChillyWilly]

I dont understand the CBA beyond 1st Apron Bad 2nd Apron Lava.

Kornet at $10/m a season seems like a really good contract. There was no way to bring him back on that deal? Feels like we spent all that time turning him into a rotation big who fit our system really well. I understand why Jrue and KP had to go but....