Here's an idea:
Bulls receive Kuminga (SnT 4 years/120m), Moody
Warriors receive Simons, Niang
Celtics receive Dosunmu, Collins, 2 future Chicago 1sts
Bulls have been rumored to be the main suitor for Kuminga for a while. Moving forward, they have Kuminga-Vuceviv-White-Moody-Giddey with Buzelis-Essengue-Okoro off the bench.
Warriors are wanting to get positive value back for Kuminga. I'm guess they want White, but to this point, it seems like White hasn't been available by the Bulls. Instead, they get a better, less all-over-the-place version of Jordan Poole to help carry the offensive load. They also get Niang, who would fit really well in their offense.
Celtics get continued flexibility. They would be oh-so-close to being under the tax line if they signed Horford and Gonzalez. If Horford leaves (could be included as part of this deal in a sign-and-trade?), then they might be just able to squeeze under the tax threshold with Gonzalez and a 2nd round contract. We get Dosunmu and give him the opportunity to continue to grow in a good system in a contract year. We also get Zach Collins as a reclamation project that can eat up minutes in our big rotation.
One first from the Bulls here is part of the value of the trade, and the other 1st is to get off of Collins contract.
You?ve gotta understand Simons is negative value. No one is giving you anything for him.
He isn't though. We've had him for like two weeks and everyone assumes he's untradeable.
Why do you think he has value. Look at the going rate for similar style players this summer.
Colin Sexton is a better cheaper version of him and look at what his return was
Differenet situation. Different player. Simons has good value around the league. He's not going to get a Bridges type of return, but he is not a negative value.
But why do you say that? I get wanting to be optimistic, but all signs point to this guy being a negative value
Firstly, because a week ago everyone was saying how they couldn't believe the Celtics got Simons for Holliday. All fans, plugged in talking heads, etc. were saying this.
Secondly, because Stevens wouldn't have traded for him if he didn't think he could get value from him on the court or in a trade. It may be that we decide to keep him, and we could use his offense this year, but I think the trade option is more likely.
Thirdly, because Simons is closer to Bane offensively than other guys similar to him that have been traded. We won't get a Bane return, but I do think we can get something.
Fourthly, because there has been smoke for several years about teams interested in Simons - Magic, Bulls, Warriors, Lakers, Pelicans, Bucks etc. You can go look it up and see all kinds of rumors. That interest doesn't just go away. Magic and Pelicans may be out of the running. now due to their other roster moves, but there are some teams that are not.
Fifthly, because there are still teams that make sense and need a primary ball-handler/scorer that can create well at the end of the shot clock (Simons by the stats is one of the best) and may still have some upside. The Bucks make a lot of sense here. But so do the Warriors and possibly the Bulls (depending on what they think about Colby White).
