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Re: JB has torn meniscus; Surgery possible
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2025, 07:18:52 PM »

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If they knew it was a meniscus injury, why not get Jaylen the surgery right away and bring him back midway through the playoffs?

It was a month plus of regular season with that knee injury. A month of playoffs. Jaylen would have been coming back for or after Round 2.

Is that timeline correct?

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« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2025, 07:20:41 PM »

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If they knew it was a meniscus injury, why not get Jaylen the surgery right away and bring him back midway through the playoffs?

It was a month plus of regular season with that knee injury. A month of playoffs. Jaylen would have been coming back for or after Round 2.

Is that timeline correct?

There wouldn't be and isn't a round 3...

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« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2025, 07:30:33 PM »

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Terrible news for all the posters last night that kept wanting to say that this entire issue has been us ?choking?, when in reality 80% of our starting lineup was dealing with significant injuries/ailments that they were playing through. There?s a reason we go from complete domination of the Knicks all season long to what we saw this series. Sure, we could?ve played better, but the only reason it was ever even close was due to us being hampered by the injuries.

Makes taking a bigger step back next year and resetting financially more of a realistic scenario now. AJ Dybantsa would look good in green, and I think he even said JT was his favorite player.
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Re: JB has torn meniscus; Surgery possible
« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2025, 07:52:02 PM »

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I hope they get him evaluated soon and do surgery right away if needed. JB was playing with no lift and now this news explains it. Maybe it?s a blessing that we lost to NY. Who knows what could have happened to JB if he continued playing with that injury. Hopefully it?s just a minor tear. What a way to end the season though. Our top three guys all down with injuries?well in KP?s case it?s a mystery illness.

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« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2025, 08:15:30 PM »

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If they knew it was a meniscus injury, why not get Jaylen the surgery right away and bring him back midway through the playoffs?

It was a month plus of regular season with that knee injury. A month of playoffs. Jaylen would have been coming back for or after Round 2.

Is that timeline correct?

Meniscus repair vs. removal are different procedures with different timelines and outcomes. In order to be back for the playoffs, he would've had to have a removal. If it's a tear that can be repaired instead, that's better for the longterm health of his knees but would've ended his season.

Meniscectomies and premature arthritis tend to go hand in hand. Think Kemba Walker.
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Re: JB has torn meniscus; Surgery possible
« Reply #20 on: May 17, 2025, 08:40:53 PM »

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Even though I still think we should have won the NY series, yeah the whole road was going to be very tough even beyond the 2nd round. It is what it is. Not meant to be.

Glad we won it all last year. 

But now it makes me confused why we continued to play Jaylen late into the regular season. Idk, could he have just rested for a few weeks instead of playing? We thought he was going for All-NBA qualifications but he didn't hit it anyways. The 2 seed was locked up with like a month to go
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« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2025, 08:52:27 PM »

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Boston Celtics star Jaylen Brown finished the season with a partially torn right meniscus, sources told ESPN.

Brown had been playing in pain during the last month of the regular season and the playoffs, which concluded with Friday's Game 6 loss to the New York Knicks in the Eastern Conference semifinals.

He will be evaluated this week to determine if surgery is needed, sources said.

Fun times.  :-/

This begs the question. Why was he playing those regular season games in the first place. Should have been shut down the 2nd it happened. He kept playing culminating in that last reg season Knicks game where it was obvious. Why? Just to get all nba- talk about selfish. We all knew what was going on there. Not good. Why didn?t anyone in the organization step in earlier ? Just cow tail to these guys. Pathetic
They were open from the beginning why Brown was playing. They wanted to see if it was an injury that he could play through or did it require him sitting out or getting surgery. It's not a mystery. For all the mind readers who know that Jaylen is "selfish," tell me why he didn't play the last 2 games? He missed it by 1 or 2 games, right? Your answer has to be logically consistent with him playing the previous few months. If he was selfish, he would have pushed to play 20 minutes in the last 2 games. I just don't get the people on this board, and Celtics fans in general, who seem to hate the players on their own team, especially the ones who show the most heart (IT, Smart, Jaylen). Of course, I live in Ohio not Boston, so that's probably why it's a mystery to me.
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« Reply #22 on: May 17, 2025, 09:05:33 PM »

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Even though I still think we should have won the NY series, yeah the whole road was going to be very tough even beyond the 2nd round. It is what it is. Not meant to be.

Glad we won it all last year. 

But now it makes me confused why we continued to play Jaylen late into the regular season. Idk, could he have just rested for a few weeks instead of playing? We thought he was going for All-NBA qualifications but he didn't hit it anyways. The 2 seed was locked up with like a month to go

My point exactly. There was no need to play through anything. Guys get shut down for less. It?s the organizations job to save players from themselves. I?ve heard players routinely say the wanted to play but were vetoed by staff. Why not in this case? The most important thing was to be as healthy and rested for the playoffs.
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« Reply #23 on: May 17, 2025, 09:14:48 PM »

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Even though I still think we should have won the NY series, yeah the whole road was going to be very tough even beyond the 2nd round. It is what it is. Not meant to be.

Glad we won it all last year. 

But now it makes me confused why we continued to play Jaylen late into the regular season. Idk, could he have just rested for a few weeks instead of playing? We thought he was going for All-NBA qualifications but he didn't hit it anyways. The 2 seed was locked up with like a month to go

My point exactly. There was no need to play through anything. Guys get shut down for less. It?s the organizations job to save players from themselves. I?ve heard players routinely say the wanted to play but were vetoed by staff. Why not in this case? The most important thing was to be as healthy and rested for the playoffs.

And to clarify ESPN reported he had pain injections in the knee in March. Why was he playing after that ?
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« Reply #24 on: May 17, 2025, 09:21:27 PM »

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Even though I still think we should have won the NY series, yeah the whole road was going to be very tough even beyond the 2nd round. It is what it is. Not meant to be.

Glad we won it all last year. 

But now it makes me confused why we continued to play Jaylen late into the regular season. Idk, could he have just rested for a few weeks instead of playing? We thought he was going for All-NBA qualifications but he didn't hit it anyways. The 2 seed was locked up with like a month to go

My point exactly. There was no need to play through anything. Guys get shut down for less. It?s the organizations job to save players from themselves. I?ve heard players routinely say the wanted to play but were vetoed by staff. Why not in this case? The most important thing was to be as healthy and rested for the playoffs.

And to clarify ESPN reported he had pain injections in the knee in March. Why was he playing after that ?

Because the team was trying to repeat and a medical team likely determined the risk of further injury wasn't significant enough to shut him down.

If there's a possibility that he won't need surgery, that means it's an area of the meniscus that gets good enough blood flow that he can heal without surgical intervention or if surgery is needed, a repair would be the path forward. In both of those scenarios, we're talking multiple months long recovery that would've ended his season. The short end of a repair return to sport is 6 months.
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« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2025, 09:26:44 PM »

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So Joe refused to play anymore guys even though Brown was hurt, KP was sick, Holiday was banged up, Al is almost 40 but there was just no playing time for anyone else....

That's a gut punch, ain't it! I went from a Joe hater in 2022-23 but totally turned around on him in 2023-24. But this right there is insane. I get the whole "rotations shorten in the playoffs," but they had to know they were on borrowed time. If you're top 3 players are injured (and I wouldn't call Tatum completely healthy in the last months), then why not think out of the box and play more guys? Especially once JT was out.

On the bright side, it seems as if the medical staff knew about Brown (even if we didn't), and they had honest conversations. (I think IT has said that they weren't up front about what could happen if he played through his injuries.) Now if they only could figure out what KP needs to be better.

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« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2025, 09:38:29 PM »

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Even though I still think we should have won the NY series, yeah the whole road was going to be very tough even beyond the 2nd round. It is what it is. Not meant to be.

Glad we won it all last year. 

But now it makes me confused why we continued to play Jaylen late into the regular season. Idk, could he have just rested for a few weeks instead of playing? We thought he was going for All-NBA qualifications but he didn't hit it anyways. The 2 seed was locked up with like a month to go

My point exactly. There was no need to play through anything. Guys get shut down for less. It?s the organizations job to save players from themselves. I?ve heard players routinely say the wanted to play but were vetoed by staff. Why not in this case? The most important thing was to be as healthy and rested for the playoffs.

And to clarify ESPN reported he had pain injections in the knee in March. Why was he playing after that ?

Because the team was trying to repeat and a medical team likely determined the risk of further injury wasn't significant enough to shut him down.

If there's a possibility that he won't need surgery, that means it's an area of the meniscus that gets good enough blood flow that he can heal without surgical intervention or if surgery is needed, a repair would be the path forward. In both of those scenarios, we're talking multiple months long recovery that would've ended his season. The short end of a repair return to sport is 6 months.

2nd seed was a lock. There was no need to play him.
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« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2025, 10:07:28 PM »

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Even though I still think we should have won the NY series, yeah the whole road was going to be very tough even beyond the 2nd round. It is what it is. Not meant to be.

Glad we won it all last year. 

But now it makes me confused why we continued to play Jaylen late into the regular season. Idk, could he have just rested for a few weeks instead of playing? We thought he was going for All-NBA qualifications but he didn't hit it anyways. The 2 seed was locked up with like a month to go

My point exactly. There was no need to play through anything. Guys get shut down for less. It?s the organizations job to save players from themselves. I?ve heard players routinely say the wanted to play but were vetoed by staff. Why not in this case? The most important thing was to be as healthy and rested for the playoffs.

And to clarify ESPN reported he had pain injections in the knee in March. Why was he playing after that ?

Because the team was trying to repeat and a medical team likely determined the risk of further injury wasn't significant enough to shut him down.

If there's a possibility that he won't need surgery, that means it's an area of the meniscus that gets good enough blood flow that he can heal without surgical intervention or if surgery is needed, a repair would be the path forward. In both of those scenarios, we're talking multiple months long recovery that would've ended his season. The short end of a repair return to sport is 6 months.

2nd seed was a lock. There was no need to play him.

Looks like you've already made up your mind and you're not actually reading. As long as the team thought they had a shot at repeating, they weren't shutting him down. It wouldn't have been enough time for the meniscus to heal on it's own, so you might as well let him figure out his pain tolerance with it because those were likely the only 2 options: play through the injury or not be available in the playoffs.
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« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2025, 10:19:50 PM »

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Thought it was a bone bruise?  ???
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« Reply #29 on: May 17, 2025, 10:26:05 PM »

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So Joe refused to play anymore guys even though Brown was hurt, KP was sick, Holiday was banged up, Al is almost 40 but there was just no playing time for anyone else....

Those guys banged up are better than the scrubs on the bench. I don?t think playing Queta, Tillman, Schierman, Davison or Walsh was going to change anything.
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