Celtics (1-2) at Knicks (2-1) Round 2 Game 4 5/12/25

[Vermont Green]

I guess I am not as down on this team as everyone else. Brown and Porziņģis are both hurt or sick and not nearly playing at full speed. Porziņģis is an All-Star level big playing barely as good as Kornet . Brown is a finals MVP playing like a bench guy.  Holliday missed some games right at the end of the season.

[SparzWizard]

If Tatum is out for most of next season, this squad is only a 45 win caliber team without him.

We'd probably still make the playoffs as a play-in seed, or a sub .500 team.

[Atzar]

This is bs from all of you blaming JB for JT?s injury.  That is idiotic and I know all of you are mad at Brown because he played poorly, but he didn?t cause JT?s injury.  grow up.

I don't know what happened to this place over the years.  The discussion here has become toxic and vitriolic as hell, even in wins.  I feel like this isn't a healthy way to consume sports.

[smicker16]

Just feel terrible for those new owners. Sarcastic of course but have to wonder what they are thinking.

[jambr380]

This is bs from all of you blaming JB for JT?s injury.  That is idiotic and I know all of you are mad at Brown because he played poorly, but he didn?t cause JT?s injury.  grow up.

I'm honestly just sick of Jaylen Brown tbh. I guess he's been hurt, but he's been hurt for like 3 months now (and KP has been sick for like 3 months). He somehow still can't dribble the ball after 9 years in the league. It's a travesty that he won FMVP over Tatum last year in an easy short 5 game series.

The team didn't have any of the magic they had last year. They've consistently been great in even years and bad in odd years, so it's no surprise. But I guess that streak is about to end with no Tatum next year

[celticinorlando]

I am making everyone available but JT, White and PP.

[Phantom255x]

If Tatum is out for most of next season, this squad is only a 45 win caliber team without him.

We'd probably still make the playoffs as a play-in seed, or a sub .500 team.

The East is so bad they will definitely be a play-in team at least. It'll be a little like 2021

[Larry for 3]

Just feel terrible for those new owners. Sarcastic of course but have to wonder what they are thinking.

They weren?t paying 500 mil for the roster before the injury. Definitely not now

[SparzWizard]

This is bs from all of you blaming JB for JT?s injury.  That is idiotic and I know all of you are mad at Brown because he played poorly, but he didn?t cause JT?s injury.  grow up.

I'm honestly just sick of Jaylen Brown tbh. I guess he's been hurt, but he's been hurt for like 3 months now (and KP has been sick for like 3 months). He somehow still can't dribble the ball after 9 years in the league. It's a travesty that he won FMVP over Tatum last year in an easy short 5 game series.

The team didn't have any of the magic they had last year. They've consistently been great in even years and bad in odd years, so it's no surprise. But I guess that streak is about to end with no Tatum next year

That's how we lost in the 2022 NBA Finals. His turnovers. His poor handles. 9 years in the league and you still have dribbling issues; out of here with that garbage

[scaryjerry]

If Tatum is out for most of next season, this squad is only a 45 win caliber team without him.

Who cares? Seeding and wins clearly mean nothing

[smicker16]

I would also prefer to blow it up if the injury is that bad. But blowing it up is not easy. Trying to find teams to take on the salaries of a Jrue, KP or Brown especially when their values are not high is not going to result in much return at all. It?s possible we have to include something to trade those salaries honestly. Just not in a good spot which is crazy to think how quickly the trajectory of this team has just changed.

[celticinorlando]

Injuries doomed us this year. KP and this mystery illness. JB's knee. JT's wrist and Achilies. Jrue's finger and shoulder.


Just beat up as hell. Should have still beaten the Knicks but just another reason why it is so hard to repeat.

[jpotter33]

Tatum?s injury puts the whole game in series in context. If he?s out all of next year, that surely changes Brad?s calculus in terms of managing his cap. They may punt on some older guys like KP and holiday and try to reset with some younger players since JT and JB are still young and have a chance for another window. But if he?s injured the whole season and maybe part of 2026/27 then this window is definitely closed. We might?ve been able to still make a push if KP was healthy and JB was not so inconsistent but with KP passenger as well and Hauser out affecting our depths, we will just be one of many instead of ahead of the pack.

You absolutely clean house if you're the Celtics, and I think that even means Brown, as realistically you can't keep both him and JT long-term on super-maxes anyways. He can bring the most back in a deal.

See if you can get the younger Jalen Johnson and send JB home to Atlanta. Then see if you can get anything for KP. We're likely stuck with Jrue's contract anyways, and he'd be a good vet that we can keep around for the younger guys.

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

I am making everyone available but JT, White and PP.

YUP

GET GIANNIS for a run in 2 years

nexct year is GARBAGE NOW START OVER

this dumb team blew title shots in 2022  2023  2025  UNREAL 

window with this core is over

[jambr380]

If it is an Achillies he is done for next season at the least. Esp this late in the season.

Have a feeling a reset is coming soon. Al, KP, Jrue and Hauser all being moved.

Next season will be PP, White and Brown will be your core and they will be a lottery team.

I mean if they trade all of Al, KP, Jrue Hauser and get nothing back then probably.

If they generally keep the team together I think they'd still win close to 50 even without Tatum, but if he's out all of next year they for sure are tarding one of KP or Jrue for tax purposes.

Literally zero reason to be in the 2nd apron next year. Everything they do this offseason has now shifted to saving money and bringing in a younger core to go with Tatum in the future. This is dire. We are still in shock. Our elite, top 5, franchise player likely just suffered a career altering injury. Next year is a complete wash, but we need to hope that we didn't just suddenly turn into the Sixers