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Re: Is our roster constructed properly?
« Reply #30 on: March 02, 2025, 09:17:58 PM »

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Did Queta play in the Cavs game? Idk, he looked pretty good today.
mazzula seems to give queta irregular playing time. i assume it the result of a combination of limited skills and particular match ups. but when he plays he does seem to do well.

Yeah I would have liked to see him and Craig at least get a few more minutes and see. Or maybe that's the plan come May, deploy them in the ECF and "surprise" Cleveland  :laugh:
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Re: Is our roster constructed properly?
« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2025, 09:20:52 PM »

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Re: Is our roster constructed properly?
« Reply #32 on: March 03, 2025, 08:20:10 AM »

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Looking ahead though, Brad is gonna have to really hit on a draft pick or maybe trade a few future ones for another cheap rotational guy. Horford is nearly 40 years old, Jrue is gonna be 35 and Porzingis is also injury prone. Plus all the luxury tax ramifications.

I know there was some personal stuff with Filipowski that probably swayed some teams away (the situation of his "grooming") but he's been decent for Utah and has looked really good the last few weeks. Some 20-point games. He's a 7 foot big who can shoot. This team could have used that as a future building block instead of Scheierman IMO

From my perspective, though, these are largely the problems that any team has when they're a title-contending team - building a dynasty is legitimately impossible to plot under the latest CBA, simply because drafting is as much luck as it is anything else - and for the Celtics-specific issues: we've been talking about how moving on from Horford is going to be a problem for the C's for at least the last three seasons.

The KP trade got us over the hump and nabbed us a title, but I think it's very possible that we don't see another Celtics chip for this core. Getting a second ring, let alone repeating, appears to be harder and harder every year.
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« Reply #33 on: March 03, 2025, 09:24:23 AM »

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The one other thing we are ignoring is the path to play time.   How many players out there that are clear upgrades would have come for the vet min knowing that they are likely not going to get much playtime to show out for a better contract in the future?   

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« Reply #34 on: March 03, 2025, 09:30:24 AM »

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The one other thing we are ignoring is the path to play time.   How many players out there that are clear upgrades would have come for the vet min knowing that they are likely not going to get much playtime to show out for a better contract in the future?

One was Lonnie Walker.  Letting him go for an open roster spot was probably a mistake.

The unfortunate signing was Tillman.  I was happy we signed him, but I'm wondering if our doctors missed something in the physical.

What we probably should have done:  resign Brissett; sign Walker; trade Tillman at the deadline for a rebounder/defender


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« Reply #35 on: March 03, 2025, 09:34:25 AM »

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The one other thing we are ignoring is the path to play time.   How many players out there that are clear upgrades would have come for the vet min knowing that they are likely not going to get much playtime to show out for a better contract in the future?

One was Lonnie Walker.  Letting him go for an open roster spot was probably a mistake.

The unfortunate signing was Tillman.  I was happy we signed him, but I'm wondering if our doctors missed something in the physical.

What we probably should have done:  resign Brissett; sign Walker; trade Tillman at the deadline for a rebounder/defender

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Re: Is our roster constructed properly?
« Reply #36 on: March 03, 2025, 09:48:26 AM »

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Walsh is +48. I think he's a real player. And I like the idea of keeping a youth movement simmering.
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« Reply #37 on: March 03, 2025, 10:15:29 AM »

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Walsh is +48. I think he's a real player. And I like the idea of keeping a youth movement simmering.

I?m far from giving up on Walsh, but I also don?t see him being much of an asset in this year?s playoffs.  Frankly, not sure having Brissett or Walker moves the needle much either. I would have liked to have kept Springer as he was demonstrating an elite skill.   One thing to remember is that Luke is better and Q can contribute this year. Losing what we thought we had in Tillman is negated by Luke and Q.  Al has lost a bit but then he has a n game like yesterday and it feels pretty good.

Re: Is our roster constructed properly?
« Reply #38 on: March 03, 2025, 10:17:18 AM »

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Walsh is +48. I think he's a real player. And I like the idea of keeping a youth movement simmering.

That's one of those age old questions though: is a guy worth a roster spot if the coach doesn't want to play him?


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« Reply #39 on: March 03, 2025, 10:18:33 AM »

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The one other thing we are ignoring is the path to play time.   How many players out there that are clear upgrades would have come for the vet min knowing that they are likely not going to get much playtime to show out for a better contract in the future?

One was Lonnie Walker.  Letting him go for an open roster spot was probably a mistake.

The unfortunate signing was Tillman.  I was happy we signed him, but I'm wondering if our doctors missed something in the physical.

What we probably should have done:  resign Brissett; sign Walker; trade Tillman at the deadline for a rebounder/defender

This.

But does any of this really change the roster construction?  Sure Tillman is a miss. Springer was a miss until we did not have him. It is nothing but speculation that Walker or Brissett would make any difference. 

I look at roster construction as being about the top guys, not the bottom guys. I am not sure there is a better constructed roster in the league. The 14 the guy does not make much difference.  Springer, Walker, Tillman, Brissett, small impact on roster construction.

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« Reply #40 on: March 03, 2025, 10:19:02 AM »

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I am close to giving up on J Walsh. He has made little to no progress in his offense. His defense on the wing is very good but his offense is so bad that it makes him a net negative.

Re: Is our roster constructed properly?
« Reply #41 on: March 03, 2025, 11:56:36 AM »

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The one other thing we are ignoring is the path to play time.   How many players out there that are clear upgrades would have come for the vet min knowing that they are likely not going to get much playtime to show out for a better contract in the future?

One was Lonnie Walker.  Letting him go for an open roster spot was probably a mistake.

The unfortunate signing was Tillman.  I was happy we signed him, but I'm wondering if our doctors missed something in the physical.

What we probably should have done:  resign Brissett; sign Walker; trade Tillman at the deadline for a rebounder/defender

This.

But does any of this really change the roster construction?  Sure Tillman is a miss. Springer was a miss until we did not have him. It is nothing but speculation that Walker or Brissett would make any difference. 

I look at roster construction as being about the top guys, not the bottom guys. I am not sure there is a better constructed roster in the league. The 14 the guy does not make much difference.  Springer, Walker, Tillman, Brissett, small impact on roster construction.

Brissett was on the team all of last year.  He played well and was even getting some minutes in the playoffs. Walker is a proven NBA player, who is clearly better than the non rotation players that the C?s have. The rotation is fine, the problem is when you have several of those guys out due to injury or Illness, which happens throughout the season. This is when you need to have the depth that Boston currently does not have.
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Re: Is our roster constructed properly?
« Reply #42 on: March 03, 2025, 02:07:50 PM »

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I think Walker should've been signed?I think he would've been instant offense off the bench. And since Tillman hasn't panned out, he really should be replaced.
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Re: Is our roster constructed properly?
« Reply #43 on: March 03, 2025, 02:34:50 PM »

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The rotation is fine, the problem is when you have several of those guys out due to injury or Illness, which happens throughout the season. This is when you need to have the depth that Boston currently does not have

This right here.  For whatever reason, with two starters out we went to a 7-man rotation.  We don't have much depth that we can use as minutes chewers.  A guy like Svi last year, for instance.


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« Reply #44 on: March 09, 2025, 11:12:54 PM »

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Lonnie Walker had 25pts, 11rebs, 5ast, 1stl in the 76ers win tonight. Should be on the Cs!
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