Luka to Lakers for AD

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Anyone doubting the majority take on this trade?

I realize I'm a bit biased and it is easy to take a victory lap right now.

But I'm curious if anyone out has greater doubts about Luka's future as a result of this series.

Lockdown defense on youtube had a film study that showed Luka gave up 43 points himself last night, and that number could have been way worse if the Wolves made their open threes.

To me, he just looks like he moves half the speed that he used to. Still a great offensive talent.

What do you think?

I think there are two things here.

1) Should the Mavs have traded Luka? 

2) Was due diligence done/the return package adequate for trading Luka?

I think #1 remains debatable but I think #2 is still organizational malpractice, IMO

This is a great way to put it. The Mavs very clearly valued Anthony Davis higher than most fans and media do today. They acted like he was a top 5-10 player in the league.

There's no doubt they could have gotten more picks and young players elsewhere, but the list is pretty short on which players might help them "win-now." They thought Davis could do that. Most people disagree.

[Goldstar88]

I rather have a healthy Dallas roster than a healthy lakers roster as of now..

Sure, but AD is rarely healthy and will be 33 years old next season. Luka just turned 26.

[Goldstar88]

Anyone doubting the majority take on this trade?

I realize I'm a bit biased and it is easy to take a victory lap right now.

But I'm curious if anyone out has greater doubts about Luka's future as a result of this series.

Lockdown defense on youtube had a film study that showed Luka gave up 43 points himself last night, and that number could have been way worse if the Wolves made their open threes.

To me, he just looks like he moves half the speed that he used to. Still a great offensive talent.

What do you think?

Where did the Mavs finish last year with Luka. Where did they finish this year without Luka. Case closed.

In the short term, it's arguably a bad trade for LA and a terrible trade for Dallas.  Sticking with AD might have gotten them further this year.

Medium to long-term, it's likely to be a very good deal for LA and a terrible trade for Dallas.

It's that rare trade where both teams lose 

Very well said.  TP!

How did the Lakers lose? They weren?t going anywhere with an aging AD this year anyway.

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Anyone doubting the majority take on this trade?

I realize I'm a bit biased and it is easy to take a victory lap right now.

But I'm curious if anyone out has greater doubts about Luka's future as a result of this series.

Lockdown defense on youtube had a film study that showed Luka gave up 43 points himself last night, and that number could have been way worse if the Wolves made their open threes.

To me, he just looks like he moves half the speed that he used to. Still a great offensive talent.

What do you think?

Where did the Mavs finish last year with Luka. Where did they finish this year without Luka. Case closed.

In the short term, it's arguably a bad trade for LA and a terrible trade for Dallas.  Sticking with AD might have gotten them further this year.

Medium to long-term, it's likely to be a very good deal for LA and a terrible trade for Dallas.

It's that rare trade where both teams lose 

Very well said.  TP!

How did the Lakers lose? They weren?t going anywhere with an aging AD this year anyway.

they lose because they couldn't even get out of the first round.

[Birdman]

I rather have a healthy Dallas roster than a healthy lakers roster as of now..

Sure, but AD is rarely healthy and will be 33 years old next season. Luka just turned 26.

And LeBron be 40-41 & it showed?

[Goldstar88]

Anyone doubting the majority take on this trade?

I realize I'm a bit biased and it is easy to take a victory lap right now.

But I'm curious if anyone out has greater doubts about Luka's future as a result of this series.

Lockdown defense on youtube had a film study that showed Luka gave up 43 points himself last night, and that number could have been way worse if the Wolves made their open threes.

To me, he just looks like he moves half the speed that he used to. Still a great offensive talent.

What do you think?

Where did the Mavs finish last year with Luka. Where did they finish this year without Luka. Case closed.

In the short term, it's arguably a bad trade for LA and a terrible trade for Dallas.  Sticking with AD might have gotten them further this year.

Medium to long-term, it's likely to be a very good deal for LA and a terrible trade for Dallas.

It's that rare trade where both teams lose 

Very well said.  TP!

How did the Lakers lose? They weren?t going anywhere with an aging AD this year anyway.

they lose because they couldn't even get out of the first round.

That wasn?t going to happen with AD, either. Plus, Luka has only been in LA for a few months. It?s going to take more time then that for them to figure things out. I also expect they will tinker with the roster during the offseason. Maybe add a Center for example since they?ve been playing without one.

[Roy H.]

Anyone doubting the majority take on this trade?

I realize I'm a bit biased and it is easy to take a victory lap right now.

But I'm curious if anyone out has greater doubts about Luka's future as a result of this series.

Lockdown defense on youtube had a film study that showed Luka gave up 43 points himself last night, and that number could have been way worse if the Wolves made their open threes.

To me, he just looks like he moves half the speed that he used to. Still a great offensive talent.

What do you think?

Where did the Mavs finish last year with Luka. Where did they finish this year without Luka. Case closed.

In the short term, it's arguably a bad trade for LA and a terrible trade for Dallas.  Sticking with AD might have gotten them further this year.

Medium to long-term, it's likely to be a very good deal for LA and a terrible trade for Dallas.

It's that rare trade where both teams lose 

Very well said.  TP!

How did the Lakers lose? They weren?t going anywhere with an aging AD this year anyway.

they lose because they couldn't even get out of the first round.

Yeah.  And part of that is because they had no interior presence at all.  Davis was playing quite well for them this year. 

[moiso]

I rather have a healthy Dallas roster than a healthy lakers roster as of now..

Sure, but AD is rarely healthy and will be 33 years old next season. Luka just turned 26.

Luka has played in 70 games only twice in his 7 year career.

[Phantom255x]

AD would have made a difference in this series and against the Warriors next round. He typically dominated GSW in particular. Gobert would be more limited and also, AD can actually play defense.

I still don't think LAL would have made the Finals, but I also think the lack of size and very poor Luka defense negated a lot of the impact Luka did on offense. Lebron was a bit inconsistent as well and Reaves was mostly meh

They also traded away Christie who was a decent young guard who could hit some 3s. Vincent and Goodwin did nothing and Knecht barely played. Thin depth

[Goldstar88]

Anyone doubting the majority take on this trade?

I realize I'm a bit biased and it is easy to take a victory lap right now.

But I'm curious if anyone out has greater doubts about Luka's future as a result of this series.

Lockdown defense on youtube had a film study that showed Luka gave up 43 points himself last night, and that number could have been way worse if the Wolves made their open threes.

To me, he just looks like he moves half the speed that he used to. Still a great offensive talent.

What do you think?

Where did the Mavs finish last year with Luka. Where did they finish this year without Luka. Case closed.

In the short term, it's arguably a bad trade for LA and a terrible trade for Dallas.  Sticking with AD might have gotten them further this year.

Medium to long-term, it's likely to be a very good deal for LA and a terrible trade for Dallas.

It's that rare trade where both teams lose 

Very well said.  TP!

How did the Lakers lose? They weren?t going anywhere with an aging AD this year anyway.

they lose because they couldn't even get out of the first round.

And the Mavs couldn?t even get through the play-in tournament with AD. 

[Neurotic Guy]

Sadly, it?s hard to argue that the Lakers didn?t win the trade.  If they don?t win anything with LBJ and Luke, they start the new era with a superstar already in the fold. Remember too that it?s the Lakers and in the off-season they?ll be able to find role players to beef up the roster.  Say what you will about Luka?s defense, he?s a magnificent offensive player and still young. 

[Roy H.]

Sadly, it?s hard to argue that the Lakers didn?t win the trade.  If they don?t win anything with LBJ and Luke, they start the new era with a superstar already in the fold. Remember too that it?s the Lakers and in the off-season they?ll be able to find role players to beef up the roster.  Say what you will about Luka?s defense, he?s a magnificent offensive player and still young.

I guess we can always hope that he adds more weight (fat) and becomes less effective offensively.  Barring that, you're entirely correct:  they've got a 26 year old offensive superstar for the next 5 to 10 years.  Unlike many offense-only stars, Luka can carry his team in the playoffs.

[Who]

I am watching a Perk segment on ESPN were he blames Rob Pelinka for not getting Daniel Gafford as a throw in as part of the Luka for AD trade.

[SHAQATTACK]

Will Luka ever get his lift back ?

[Donoghus]

I am watching a Perk segment on ESPN were he blames Rob Pelinka for not getting Daniel Gafford as a throw in as part of the Luka for AD trade.

Pelinka got enough in the trade already for giving up minimal.