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Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #5145 on: June 05, 2025, 09:37:44 PM »

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What's the record for turnovers by one team in a half?  This is madness.  Indy is incapable of hanging onto the ball.  Yeah, I harp on the stuff OKC gets away with but it's not all on the whistle (or lack thereof).  Indy is just playing like they don't belong here.  And maybe they don't.

Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #5146 on: June 05, 2025, 09:38:04 PM »

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I don't know why Obi Toppin doesn't cut to the paint, post up, take a short jump hook. None of those OKC guards can challenge that shot.  They are all too small. They got 3 guys out there that are 6-3/6-4 plus SGA as a skinny 6-6.

Toppin is allowing those guys to defend him. He is making it easy for them. Playing out at that three point line.

Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #5147 on: June 05, 2025, 09:38:39 PM »

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OKC going to that micro-ball lineup with J-Dub at center that caused Indiana so much problems during one of their regular season games. Pulling away here.

Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #5148 on: June 05, 2025, 09:41:50 PM »

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Great challenge by Chet on Siakam's runner in the lane.

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« Reply #5149 on: June 05, 2025, 09:44:45 PM »

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Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #5150 on: June 05, 2025, 09:45:14 PM »

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I am interested to see how the 2nd half starts.  Will the game be over after a few minutes or will the Pacers come out possessed and get back into it.  The 18 turnovers is absolutely shocking to me.  Didn't even think that would be a full game total, let alone the 1st half.  Crazy.
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« Reply #5151 on: June 05, 2025, 09:46:20 PM »

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What's the record for turnovers by one team in a half?  This is madness.  Indy is incapable of hanging onto the ball.  Yeah, I harp on the stuff OKC gets away with but it's not all on the whistle (or lack thereof).  Indy is just playing like they don't belong here.  And maybe they don't.

Statmuse says GSW has the NBA record for the most turnovers in a Finals game with 36 turnovers in the 1975 Finals against Washington.

Didn't GSW sweep that series? How do you turn the ball over 36 times and win a game?

GSW is also #3 on the list with 31 turnovers in a separate game in that Finals series. And yes, they did sweep. They won both games. That is insane.

The other 3 games in the top 5 were all in the 1977 Finals between Bill Walton's Blazers and Dr J's 76ers. 2 for Portland. 1 for Philly. 34 turnovers POR, 30 turnovers Philly, 29 turnovers Portland.

Indiana has 18 turnovers at the half. They might be making this list before the end of this game.

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« Reply #5152 on: June 05, 2025, 09:48:21 PM »

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What's the record for turnovers by one team in a half?  This is madness.  Indy is incapable of hanging onto the ball.  Yeah, I harp on the stuff OKC gets away with but it's not all on the whistle (or lack thereof).  Indy is just playing like they don't belong here.  And maybe they don't.

Statmuse says GSW has the NBA record for the most turnovers in a Finals game with 36 turnovers in the 1975 Finals against Washington.

Didn't GSW sweep that series? How do you turn the ball over 36 times and win a game?

GSW is also #3 on the list with 31 turnovers in a separate game in that Finals series. And yes, they did sweep. They won both games. That is insane.

The other 3 games in the top 5 were all in the 1977 Finals between Bill Walton's Blazers and Dr J's 76ers. 2 for Portland. 1 for Philly. 34 turnovers POR, 30 turnovers Philly, 29 turnovers Portland.

Indiana has 18 turnovers at the half. They might be making this list before the end of this game.

I am trying to find a figure for the half of a Finals game but struggling ...

Statmuse says the record for a regular season is 19 turnovers in a half. Done by 5 teams. Indiana had 18. Another 5 teams had 18.

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« Reply #5153 on: June 05, 2025, 09:51:54 PM »

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Mathurin looks terrified to dribble the ball. Like he is afraid he will turn it over if he tries to do anything with it. He has been so passive tonight.

On the season, Mathurin played 30mpg and averaged 1.9 turnovers. Not too bad. Guy averaged 16ppg. But 1.9 turnovers against 1.9 assists. That is terrible for a guard. That is the type of numbers you would expect to see out of a center. Both raw assists + assist to turnover ratio are center figures.

That poor assist + assist to turnover numbers must be why some advanced stats don't rate Mathurin well offensively which is strange given how potent a scorer he is. That must be what they are picking up on.

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« Reply #5154 on: June 05, 2025, 09:58:56 PM »

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What's the record for turnovers by one team in a half?  This is madness.  Indy is incapable of hanging onto the ball.  Yeah, I harp on the stuff OKC gets away with but it's not all on the whistle (or lack thereof).  Indy is just playing like they don't belong here.  And maybe they don't.

Statmuse says GSW has the NBA record for the most turnovers in a Finals game with 36 turnovers in the 1975 Finals against Washington.

Didn't GSW sweep that series? How do you turn the ball over 36 times and win a game?

GSW is also #3 on the list with 31 turnovers in a separate game in that Finals series. And yes, they did sweep. They won both games. That is insane.

The other 3 games in the top 5 were all in the 1977 Finals between Bill Walton's Blazers and Dr J's 76ers. 2 for Portland. 1 for Philly. 34 turnovers POR, 30 turnovers Philly, 29 turnovers Portland.

Indiana has 18 turnovers at the half. They might be making this list before the end of this game.
Game 3 of that series is when Warriors had 36.  They won by 8. Probably helps the Bullets had 27 turnovers on their own.  Game 4 is the game Warriors had 31, but the Bullets had 29.  Warriors won the game to clinch the sweep by a point.
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Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #5155 on: June 05, 2025, 10:08:39 PM »

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As shocking as the Pacers' turnovers are, it's almost equally shocking how unproductive the Thunder have been off of them.  Only nine points generated off of 22 turnovers.  It's the only reason this one is sort of in reach for Indy despite everything that has happened. 

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« Reply #5156 on: June 05, 2025, 10:12:17 PM »

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SGA?s game is so unlikable.
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Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #5157 on: June 05, 2025, 10:16:11 PM »

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I mean the pacers haven?t played well and nothing has gone their way and they?re technically within striking distance, nothing more you could ask for as the road team in game 1 of the finals

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« Reply #5158 on: June 05, 2025, 10:18:14 PM »

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Indy needs to do Siakam a favor and... not ask him to create his shot from 30 feet against a pest of a guard in Caruso.  That's just setting your man up for failure.  If you get him matched up against Caruso, then get him closer to the basket where he can better use his size/strength advantage.

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« Reply #5159 on: June 05, 2025, 10:23:09 PM »

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Indy needs to do Siakam a favor and... not ask him to create his shot from 30 feet against a pest of a guard in Caruso.  That's just setting your man up for failure.  If you get him matched up against Caruso, then get him closer to the basket where he can better use his size/strength advantage.

Same thing Minnesota did with Randle. Got the mismatch. Then asked him to create of the dribble against Caruso from 25+ feet and Randle's game died out there.

Randle was great at attacking their bigs off the dribble from the three point line but he couldn't do it against OKC's defensive guards. Those had to be post ups / deep catches.

Teams these days are so bad at attacking size mismatches. It is either overpowering the smaller player off a drive or it is nothing.