NBA Season 2024-25

[Goldstar88]

Sabonis has only 7pts through 3 quarters. He also has 5 turnovers vs his 4 assists. No-show performance by Sabonis.

He rarely plays up to snuff in the playoffs. He couldn't take advantage of the GSW 2 years when they had no quality center to oppose him.

If he wants to be considered a top player, he must play better in the playoffs. This isn't good enough.

I think he?s overrated, tbh. Can?t shoot at all and is an average defender.

[Who]

Marc Stein was saying Miami only keeps their draft pick if they lose the play-in.

* So if they win, they lose their pick this year.

* But if they lose, they keep their pick this year but will lose unprotected picks next season and the year after to OKC and Charlote.

Okay, so that is weird. They keep their pick if it is top 14 this year. They lose it to OKC otherwise. If they keep their pick, their 2026 draft pick is unprotected and goes to OKC.

Then there is a 2nd draft pick which will go to Charlotte in 2027. So with this 2nd pick, Miami keep it if top 14. However, if their pick goes to OKC in 2026, then a pick in the 15-30 range is owed to Charlotte. If that pick does not convey to Charlotte in 2027, is would then be owed to Charlotte in 2028.

[Who]

Fun one. Spencer Dinwiddie led the Mavericks this season in minutes played, free throws attempted, assists, and tied lead for steals. Only 2,100 minutes.

That is how injured the Mavs were this season. Spencer Dinwiddie the team leader in several categories as the backup PG.

[slightly biased bias fan]

Shams Charania
@ShamsCharania
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15m
Hall of Famer Joe Dumars is finalizing a deal to become the new president of basketball operations of the New Orleans Pelicans, sources tell ESPN. Dumars was president of the Pistons from 2000-14, building the 2004 Detroit championship team. Now returns home to Louisiana.

Seems like a good choice by NOP.  Will be interesting to see what he does with Zion.

Not really.

When Joe Dumars was the Pistons GM, he made some horrendous decisions:

- Picking Darko Milicic over Carmelo Anthony

- Traded for washed up Allen Iverson

- Drafted Greg Monroe over Gordon Hayward & Paul George

- Drafted Brandon Knight over Kemba Walker (who was literally next player selected)

- Traded away Khris Middleton after only one season

- Cycled through 5 head coaches in 7 years during the Pistons successful period (2003-2010)

Given Joe Dumars is from Louisiana, this seems like a hometown favour.

Would also add:

Used all the Pistons cap room after dismantling the title team to sign Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva. Not surprising, those players and the Pistons all got worse, while the teams they left got better.

Then a few years later in 2013, when they had significant cap room again, used it to sign Josh Smith. And it gets worse when you realize they signed him to roll out a front court of Josh Smith, Greg Monroe, and Andre Drummond. Steph Curry was already averaging 8 3pa per game and just led his team to the 2nd round of the playoffs, and the Pistons decided to go all in on that lineup? Dumars could not have been more wrong as to the direction the league was going. It was so bad they had to waive Smith a little more than a year after they signed him, eating almost 3 years of the 4 year contract they signed him to. That's how bad that was.

Wow, I completely forgot about his Josh Smith experiment, that was horrific.

If I remember correctly Ainge was rather enamoured with Smith too. I am glad the Celtics never signed him.

[Birdman]

Sacramento been a disappointment and trading Fox was not good..that franchise is going down fast

[Redz]

Marc Stein was saying Miami only keeps their draft pick if they lose the play-in.

* So if they win, they lose their pick this year.

* But if they lose, they keep their pick this year but will lose unprotected picks next season and the year after to OKC and Charlote.

Okay, so that is weird. They keep their pick if it is top 14 this year. They lose it to OKC otherwise. If they keep their pick, their 2026 draft pick is unprotected and goes to OKC.

Then there is a 2nd draft pick which will go to Charlotte in 2027. So with this 2nd pick, Miami keep it if top 14. However, if their pick goes to OKC in 2026, then a pick in the 15-30 range is owed to Charlotte. If that pick does not convey to Charlotte in 2027, is would then be owed to Charlotte in 2028.

Seems pretty straight forward 

[SparzWizard]

Shams Charania
@ShamsCharania
?
15m
Hall of Famer Joe Dumars is finalizing a deal to become the new president of basketball operations of the New Orleans Pelicans, sources tell ESPN. Dumars was president of the Pistons from 2000-14, building the 2004 Detroit championship team. Now returns home to Louisiana.

Seems like a good choice by NOP.  Will be interesting to see what he does with Zion.

Not really.

When Joe Dumars was the Pistons GM, he made some horrendous decisions:

- Picking Darko Milicic over Carmelo Anthony

- Traded for washed up Allen Iverson

- Drafted Greg Monroe over Gordon Hayward & Paul George

- Drafted Brandon Knight over Kemba Walker (who was literally next player selected)

- Traded away Khris Middleton after only one season

- Cycled through 5 head coaches in 7 years during the Pistons successful period (2003-2010)

Given Joe Dumars is from Louisiana, this seems like a hometown favour.

Would also add:

Used all the Pistons cap room after dismantling the title team to sign Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva. Not surprising, those players and the Pistons all got worse, while the teams they left got better.

Then a few years later in 2013, when they had significant cap room again, used it to sign Josh Smith. And it gets worse when you realize they signed him to roll out a front court of Josh Smith, Greg Monroe, and Andre Drummond. Steph Curry was already averaging 8 3pa per game and just led his team to the 2nd round of the playoffs, and the Pistons decided to go all in on that lineup? Dumars could not have been more wrong as to the direction the league was going. It was so bad they had to waive Smith a little more than a year after they signed him, eating almost 3 years of the 4 year contract they signed him to. That's how bad that was.

Wow, I completely forgot about his Josh Smith experiment, that was horrific.

If I remember correctly Ainge was rather enamoured with Smith too. I am glad the Celtics never signed him.

2012-2013 runs we were always in the trade rumor/close to acquiring Josh Smith sweepstakes 😂 I was always looking forward to seeing Josh at the 4 and KG at the 5.

[Redz]

Shams Charania
@ShamsCharania
?
15m
Hall of Famer Joe Dumars is finalizing a deal to become the new president of basketball operations of the New Orleans Pelicans, sources tell ESPN. Dumars was president of the Pistons from 2000-14, building the 2004 Detroit championship team. Now returns home to Louisiana.

Seems like a good choice by NOP.  Will be interesting to see what he does with Zion.

Not really.

When Joe Dumars was the Pistons GM, he made some horrendous decisions:

- Picking Darko Milicic over Carmelo Anthony

- Traded for washed up Allen Iverson

- Drafted Greg Monroe over Gordon Hayward & Paul George

- Drafted Brandon Knight over Kemba Walker (who was literally next player selected)

- Traded away Khris Middleton after only one season

- Cycled through 5 head coaches in 7 years during the Pistons successful period (2003-2010)

Given Joe Dumars is from Louisiana, this seems like a hometown favour.

Would also add:

Used all the Pistons cap room after dismantling the title team to sign Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva. Not surprising, those players and the Pistons all got worse, while the teams they left got better.

Then a few years later in 2013, when they had significant cap room again, used it to sign Josh Smith. And it gets worse when you realize they signed him to roll out a front court of Josh Smith, Greg Monroe, and Andre Drummond. Steph Curry was already averaging 8 3pa per game and just led his team to the 2nd round of the playoffs, and the Pistons decided to go all in on that lineup? Dumars could not have been more wrong as to the direction the league was going. It was so bad they had to waive Smith a little more than a year after they signed him, eating almost 3 years of the 4 year contract they signed him to. That's how bad that was.

Wow, I completely forgot about his Josh Smith experiment, that was horrific.

If I remember correctly Ainge was rather enamoured with Smith too. I am glad the Celtics never signed him.

2012-2013 runs we were always in the trade rumor/close to acquiring Josh Smith sweepstakes 😂 I was always looking forward to seeing Josh at the 4 and KG at the 5.

Smith always struck me as a guy whose video game version of himself would be better than the real-life one.  He had such a unique tool set, but wasn't a great fit for actual team basketball,

[Donoghus]

Shams Charania
@ShamsCharania
?
15m
Hall of Famer Joe Dumars is finalizing a deal to become the new president of basketball operations of the New Orleans Pelicans, sources tell ESPN. Dumars was president of the Pistons from 2000-14, building the 2004 Detroit championship team. Now returns home to Louisiana.

Seems like a good choice by NOP.  Will be interesting to see what he does with Zion.

Not really.

When Joe Dumars was the Pistons GM, he made some horrendous decisions:

- Picking Darko Milicic over Carmelo Anthony

- Traded for washed up Allen Iverson

- Drafted Greg Monroe over Gordon Hayward & Paul George

- Drafted Brandon Knight over Kemba Walker (who was literally next player selected)

- Traded away Khris Middleton after only one season

- Cycled through 5 head coaches in 7 years during the Pistons successful period (2003-2010)

Given Joe Dumars is from Louisiana, this seems like a hometown favour.

Would also add:

Used all the Pistons cap room after dismantling the title team to sign Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva. Not surprising, those players and the Pistons all got worse, while the teams they left got better.

Then a few years later in 2013, when they had significant cap room again, used it to sign Josh Smith. And it gets worse when you realize they signed him to roll out a front court of Josh Smith, Greg Monroe, and Andre Drummond. Steph Curry was already averaging 8 3pa per game and just led his team to the 2nd round of the playoffs, and the Pistons decided to go all in on that lineup? Dumars could not have been more wrong as to the direction the league was going. It was so bad they had to waive Smith a little more than a year after they signed him, eating almost 3 years of the 4 year contract they signed him to. That's how bad that was.

Wow, I completely forgot about his Josh Smith experiment, that was horrific.

If I remember correctly Ainge was rather enamoured with Smith too. I am glad the Celtics never signed him.

2012-2013 runs we were always in the trade rumor/close to acquiring Josh Smith sweepstakes 😂 I was always looking forward to seeing Josh at the 4 and KG at the 5.

Smith always struck me as a guy whose video game version of himself would be better than the real-life one.  He had such a unique tool set, but wasn't a great fit for actual team basketball,

Was a great fantasy basketball player outside of free throws.

[Who]

Kings fire GM Monte McNair.

Deserved. He did a terrible job with that team.

* He kept doubling down on adding more scorers despite having one of the league's best offenses and arguably the worst defense in the league among playoff hopeful teams.

* Then he followed that up by trading D Fox for cents on the dollar. He wanted to do that trade because Fox wanted out but he still had 18 months on his deal. There was no reason to rush into that trade right here right now when the only offers are that bad. You can get equivalent offers in the summer or the following trade deadline.

[Phantom255x]

Warriors-Grizzlies was the only good game. Don't have much faith ATL-MIA will be fun. Maybe Grizzlies-Mavericks is.

[SparzWizard]

Kings fire GM Monte McNair.

Deserved. He did a terrible job with that team.

* He kept doubling down on adding more scorers despite having one of the league's best offenses and arguably the worst defense in the league among playoff hopeful teams.

* Then he followed that up by trading D Fox for cents on the dollar. He wanted to do that trade because Fox wanted out but he still had 18 months on his deal. There was no reason to rush into that trade right here right now when the only offers are that bad. You can get equivalent offers in the summer or the following trade deadline.

Heard some were praising him for getting the Kings out of playoff drought in 2023 lol

[Goldstar88]

Sam Amick: League sources confirm, with @Eric Nehm, that the Bucks? Damian Lillard has been cleared of deep vein thrombosis and is off of blood thinners. Lillard also played three-on-three yesterday, then was re-tested today. He?s out for Game 1, with no clarity from there regarding Game 2 and beyond. His ramp-up will determine that timeline.  via Twitter sam_amick

[Phantom255x]

Sam Amick: League sources confirm, with @Eric Nehm, that the Bucks? Damian Lillard has been cleared of deep vein thrombosis and is off of blood thinners. Lillard also played three-on-three yesterday, then was re-tested today. He?s out for Game 1, with no clarity from there regarding Game 2 and beyond. His ramp-up will determine that timeline.  via Twitter sam_amick

That's huge news. If MIL can split the first two, they could have a chance to take the series if Lillard returns by Game 3.

[Goldstar88]

Sam Amick: League sources confirm, with @Eric Nehm, that the Bucks? Damian Lillard has been cleared of deep vein thrombosis and is off of blood thinners. Lillard also played three-on-three yesterday, then was re-tested today. He?s out for Game 1, with no clarity from there regarding Game 2 and beyond. His ramp-up will determine that timeline.  via Twitter sam_amick

That's huge news. If MIL can split the first two, they could have a chance to take the series if Lillard returns by Game 3.

Yep. I?d imagine that?s the plan. Bring him back for the 1st home game.