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Re: Tatum's shot.
« Reply #30 on: September 04, 2024, 02:18:09 AM »

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People that are saying there is no issue are just blind homers  that potentially aren?t even watching.
He?s been a dismal shooter since the playoffs started and there?s a clear ugly hitch to his jump shot that borderline looks like the hitch in Charles Barkley golf swing. It?s bad. But yeah nothing to see here I guess.

On a practical level, it doesn't matter because we just won a championship - and no one 'wins better' if they have a jump shot that looks more like Ray Allen than Shawn Marion.

If we win a ring with Tatum shooting poorly, we should be more than fine with Tatum shooting well. There is fundamentally no reason to get in a twist about it.


one of the reasons i'm bullish on another title. if we could somehow get a hot Tatum and/or a healthy KP in May and June...

It is wild to see how good the Celtics are. They destroyed their competition in the playoffs without playing their best. Imagine if there's another gear....

Listen I love that the Celtics won and I give them credit for playing awesome all year and beating the teams they had in front of them but everything broke their way, every team they played in the east was missing there best player for most of the series and then they miraculously drew the best possible matchup in the finals. Awesome!
But I feel like now we are just going to ignore and think we can just waltz through everyone again with Tatum playing poorly and porzingis injured. Maybe that?s true, maybe every last thing will go our way again.

Rather than setting yourself up for another season of negativity, it might be better to admit that you were wrong throughout last year, that they were an excellent team, and that they have a roster capable of winning again in 2024-25.  It wasn?t that everything went their way, it was that they were the best team in the league and you were wrong all year. They may not win again, but they are clearly again a top tier team. Like every team in the history of every sport, things can go wrong. But on balance, this team goes into the season with a better chance than most teams and as good a chance as any.   They won last year not by fluke but because they were the league?s best team, talented, well-enough coached, and mentally strong. There is zero evidence of complacency and not a single person on earth thinks theyll walz to another championship.  It?s great, though, that they have a team that is capable of repeating.

Re: Tatum's shot.
« Reply #31 on: September 04, 2024, 05:07:11 AM »

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People that are saying there is no issue are just blind homers  that potentially aren?t even watching.
He?s been a dismal shooter since the playoffs started and there?s a clear ugly hitch to his jump shot that borderline looks like the hitch in Charles Barkley golf swing. It?s bad. But yeah nothing to see here I guess.

On a practical level, it doesn't matter because we just won a championship - and no one 'wins better' if they have a jump shot that looks more like Ray Allen than Shawn Marion.

If we win a ring with Tatum shooting poorly, we should be more than fine with Tatum shooting well. There is fundamentally no reason to get in a twist about it.


one of the reasons i'm bullish on another title. if we could somehow get a hot Tatum and/or a healthy KP in May and June...

It is wild to see how good the Celtics are. They destroyed their competition in the playoffs without playing their best. Imagine if there's another gear....

Listen I love that the Celtics won and I give them credit for playing awesome all year and beating the teams they had in front of them but everything broke their way, every team they played in the east was missing there best player for most of the series and then they miraculously drew the best possible matchup in the finals. Awesome!
But I feel like now we are just going to ignore and think we can just waltz through everyone again with Tatum playing poorly and porzingis injured. Maybe that?s true, maybe every last thing will go our way again.

Rather than setting yourself up for another season of negativity, it might be better to admit that you were wrong throughout last year, that they were an excellent team, and that they have a roster capable of winning again in 2024-25.  It wasn?t that everything went their way, it was that they were the best team in the league and you were wrong all year. They may not win again, but they are clearly again a top tier team. Like every team in the history of every sport, things can go wrong. But on balance, this team goes into the season with a better chance than most teams and as good a chance as any.   They won last year not by fluke but because they were the league?s best team, talented, well-enough coached, and mentally strong. There is zero evidence of complacency and not a single person on earth thinks theyll walz to another championship.  It?s great, though, that they have a team that is capable of repeating.

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Re: Tatum's shot.
« Reply #32 on: September 04, 2024, 08:14:04 AM »

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People that are saying there is no issue are just blind homers  that potentially aren?t even watching.
He?s been a dismal shooter since the playoffs started and there?s a clear ugly hitch to his jump shot that borderline looks like the hitch in Charles Barkley golf swing. It?s bad. But yeah nothing to see here I guess.

On a practical level, it doesn't matter because we just won a championship - and no one 'wins better' if they have a jump shot that looks more like Ray Allen than Shawn Marion.

If we win a ring with Tatum shooting poorly, we should be more than fine with Tatum shooting well. There is fundamentally no reason to get in a twist about it.


one of the reasons i'm bullish on another title. if we could somehow get a hot Tatum and/or a healthy KP in May and June...

It is wild to see how good the Celtics are. They destroyed their competition in the playoffs without playing their best. Imagine if there's another gear....

Listen I love that the Celtics won and I give them credit for playing awesome all year and beating the teams they had in front of them but everything broke their way, every team they played in the east was missing there best player for most of the series and then they miraculously drew the best possible matchup in the finals. Awesome!
But I feel like now we are just going to ignore and think we can just waltz through everyone again with Tatum playing poorly and porzingis injured. Maybe that?s true, maybe every last thing will go our way again.

Rather than setting yourself up for another season of negativity, it might be better to admit that you were wrong throughout last year, that they were an excellent team, and that they have a roster capable of winning again in 2024-25.  It wasn?t that everything went their way, it was that they were the best team in the league and you were wrong all year. They may not win again, but they are clearly again a top tier team. Like every team in the history of every sport, things can go wrong. But on balance, this team goes into the season with a better chance than most teams and as good a chance as any.   They won last year not by fluke but because they were the league?s best team, talented, well-enough coached, and mentally strong. There is zero evidence of complacency and not a single person on earth thinks theyll walz to another championship.  It?s great, though, that they have a team that is capable of repeating.

I prefaced my whole comment by saying they played awesome and were awesome and I give them all the credit and was super thrilled by the title?I can?t just say the truth and say they had a ridiculously easy run in the playoffs? They deserved it and they won the title but if every playoffs was that easy they?d already have 3+ rings

Re: Tatum's shot.
« Reply #33 on: September 04, 2024, 08:32:13 AM »

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People that are saying there is no issue are just blind homers  that potentially aren?t even watching.
He?s been a dismal shooter since the playoffs started and there?s a clear ugly hitch to his jump shot that borderline looks like the hitch in Charles Barkley golf swing. It?s bad. But yeah nothing to see here I guess.

On a practical level, it doesn't matter because we just won a championship - and no one 'wins better' if they have a jump shot that looks more like Ray Allen than Shawn Marion.

If we win a ring with Tatum shooting poorly, we should be more than fine with Tatum shooting well. There is fundamentally no reason to get in a twist about it.


one of the reasons i'm bullish on another title. if we could somehow get a hot Tatum and/or a healthy KP in May and June...

It is wild to see how good the Celtics are. They destroyed their competition in the playoffs without playing their best. Imagine if there's another gear....

Listen I love that the Celtics won and I give them credit for playing awesome all year and beating the teams they had in front of them but everything broke their way, every team they played in the east was missing there best player for most of the series and then they miraculously drew the best possible matchup in the finals. Awesome!
But I feel like now we are just going to ignore and think we can just waltz through everyone again with Tatum playing poorly and porzingis injured. Maybe that?s true, maybe every last thing will go our way again.

Rather than setting yourself up for another season of negativity, it might be better to admit that you were wrong throughout last year, that they were an excellent team, and that they have a roster capable of winning again in 2024-25.  It wasn?t that everything went their way, it was that they were the best team in the league and you were wrong all year. They may not win again, but they are clearly again a top tier team. Like every team in the history of every sport, things can go wrong. But on balance, this team goes into the season with a better chance than most teams and as good a chance as any.   They won last year not by fluke but because they were the league?s best team, talented, well-enough coached, and mentally strong. There is zero evidence of complacency and not a single person on earth thinks theyll walz to another championship.  It?s great, though, that they have a team that is capable of repeating.

Amen.

Re: Tatum's shot.
« Reply #34 on: September 04, 2024, 08:37:51 AM »

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People that are saying there is no issue are just blind homers  that potentially aren?t even watching.
He?s been a dismal shooter since the playoffs started and there?s a clear ugly hitch to his jump shot that borderline looks like the hitch in Charles Barkley golf swing. It?s bad. But yeah nothing to see here I guess.

On a practical level, it doesn't matter because we just won a championship - and no one 'wins better' if they have a jump shot that looks more like Ray Allen than Shawn Marion.

If we win a ring with Tatum shooting poorly, we should be more than fine with Tatum shooting well. There is fundamentally no reason to get in a twist about it.


one of the reasons i'm bullish on another title. if we could somehow get a hot Tatum and/or a healthy KP in May and June...

It is wild to see how good the Celtics are. They destroyed their competition in the playoffs without playing their best. Imagine if there's another gear....

Listen I love that the Celtics won and I give them credit for playing awesome all year and beating the teams they had in front of them but everything broke their way, every team they played in the east was missing there best player for most of the series and then they miraculously drew the best possible matchup in the finals. Awesome!
But I feel like now we are just going to ignore and think we can just waltz through everyone again with Tatum playing poorly and porzingis injured. Maybe that?s true, maybe every last thing will go our way again.

Rather than setting yourself up for another season of negativity, it might be better to admit that you were wrong throughout last year, that they were an excellent team, and that they have a roster capable of winning again in 2024-25.  It wasn?t that everything went their way, it was that they were the best team in the league and you were wrong all year. They may not win again, but they are clearly again a top tier team. Like every team in the history of every sport, things can go wrong. But on balance, this team goes into the season with a better chance than most teams and as good a chance as any.   They won last year not by fluke but because they were the league?s best team, talented, well-enough coached, and mentally strong. There is zero evidence of complacency and not a single person on earth thinks theyll walz to another championship.  It?s great, though, that they have a team that is capable of repeating.

I prefaced my whole comment by saying they played awesome and were awesome and I give them all the credit and was super thrilled by the title?I can?t just say the truth and say they had a ridiculously easy run in the playoffs? They deserved it and they won the title but if every playoffs was that easy they?d already have 3+ rings

It was no easier than Denver's path to the title. But yet all of last year you went on and on about how Denver was the champs and the best team. You never once mentioned their easy path, yet you now have focused on this for the Celtics, which is a weird flex.

They beat Minnesota, the Suns and the the play in Lakers. Then they got the Heat who had nothing left in the tank.

Who cares who they played. The schedule is the schedule.

Re: Tatum's shot.
« Reply #35 on: September 04, 2024, 08:55:59 AM »

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People that are saying there is no issue are just blind homers  that potentially aren?t even watching.
He?s been a dismal shooter since the playoffs started and there?s a clear ugly hitch to his jump shot that borderline looks like the hitch in Charles Barkley golf swing. It?s bad. But yeah nothing to see here I guess.

On a practical level, it doesn't matter because we just won a championship - and no one 'wins better' if they have a jump shot that looks more like Ray Allen than Shawn Marion.

If we win a ring with Tatum shooting poorly, we should be more than fine with Tatum shooting well. There is fundamentally no reason to get in a twist about it.


one of the reasons i'm bullish on another title. if we could somehow get a hot Tatum and/or a healthy KP in May and June...

It is wild to see how good the Celtics are. They destroyed their competition in the playoffs without playing their best. Imagine if there's another gear....

Listen I love that the Celtics won and I give them credit for playing awesome all year and beating the teams they had in front of them but everything broke their way, every team they played in the east was missing there best player for most of the series and then they miraculously drew the best possible matchup in the finals. Awesome!
But I feel like now we are just going to ignore and think we can just waltz through everyone again with Tatum playing poorly and porzingis injured. Maybe that?s true, maybe every last thing will go our way again.

Rather than setting yourself up for another season of negativity, it might be better to admit that you were wrong throughout last year, that they were an excellent team, and that they have a roster capable of winning again in 2024-25.  It wasn?t that everything went their way, it was that they were the best team in the league and you were wrong all year. They may not win again, but they are clearly again a top tier team. Like every team in the history of every sport, things can go wrong. But on balance, this team goes into the season with a better chance than most teams and as good a chance as any.   They won last year not by fluke but because they were the league?s best team, talented, well-enough coached, and mentally strong. There is zero evidence of complacency and not a single person on earth thinks theyll walz to another championship.  It?s great, though, that they have a team that is capable of repeating.

I prefaced my whole comment by saying they played awesome and were awesome and I give them all the credit and was super thrilled by the title?I can?t just say the truth and say they had a ridiculously easy run in the playoffs? They deserved it and they won the title but if every playoffs was that easy they?d already have 3+ rings

They beat the best team to come out of the West in the Finals. I know you don?t want to admit this, but the Celtics may have made it look easy because they were just that much better than everyone else. This was with an injured KP as well.
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Re: Tatum's shot.
« Reply #36 on: September 04, 2024, 08:57:15 AM »

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People that are saying there is no issue are just blind homers  that potentially aren?t even watching.
He?s been a dismal shooter since the playoffs started and there?s a clear ugly hitch to his jump shot that borderline looks like the hitch in Charles Barkley golf swing. It?s bad. But yeah nothing to see here I guess.

On a practical level, it doesn't matter because we just won a championship - and no one 'wins better' if they have a jump shot that looks more like Ray Allen than Shawn Marion.

If we win a ring with Tatum shooting poorly, we should be more than fine with Tatum shooting well. There is fundamentally no reason to get in a twist about it.


one of the reasons i'm bullish on another title. if we could somehow get a hot Tatum and/or a healthy KP in May and June...

It is wild to see how good the Celtics are. They destroyed their competition in the playoffs without playing their best. Imagine if there's another gear....

Listen I love that the Celtics won and I give them credit for playing awesome all year and beating the teams they had in front of them but everything broke their way, every team they played in the east was missing there best player for most of the series and then they miraculously drew the best possible matchup in the finals. Awesome!
But I feel like now we are just going to ignore and think we can just waltz through everyone again with Tatum playing poorly and porzingis injured. Maybe that?s true, maybe every last thing will go our way again.

Rather than setting yourself up for another season of negativity, it might be better to admit that you were wrong throughout last year, that they were an excellent team, and that they have a roster capable of winning again in 2024-25.  It wasn?t that everything went their way, it was that they were the best team in the league and you were wrong all year. They may not win again, but they are clearly again a top tier team. Like every team in the history of every sport, things can go wrong. But on balance, this team goes into the season with a better chance than most teams and as good a chance as any.   They won last year not by fluke but because they were the league?s best team, talented, well-enough coached, and mentally strong. There is zero evidence of complacency and not a single person on earth thinks theyll walz to another championship.  It?s great, though, that they have a team that is capable of repeating.

I prefaced my whole comment by saying they played awesome and were awesome and I give them all the credit and was super thrilled by the title?I can?t just say the truth and say they had a ridiculously easy run in the playoffs? They deserved it and they won the title but if every playoffs was that easy they?d already have 3+ rings

It was no easier than Denver's path to the title. But yet all of last year you went on and on about how Denver was the champs and the best team. You never once mentioned their easy path, yet you now have focused on this for the Celtics, which is a weird flex.

They beat Minnesota, the Suns and the the play in Lakers. Then they got the Heat who had nothing left in the tank.

Who cares who they played. The schedule is the schedule.

The Celtics are the favorites and the front runner to win the title this season, just like the nuggets were last season.
Glad we can?t admit the heat without butler, the cavs without Mitchell for half the series and the pacers without haliburton for half the series was an easy run. Homerism at its finest. I literally give the Celtics all their flowers, best team in the league all year, dominant in the playoffs, amazing team?but there run was easy, sorry we can?t admit that here.

Also I?m not taking anything away from the Celtics for winning last season, I know they?re more than capable of making it through a tough east just like they did when they made the finals in 22, I?m thankful for the easy run because they didn?t run out of gas
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Re: Tatum's shot.
« Reply #37 on: September 04, 2024, 09:30:15 AM »

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People that are saying there is no issue are just blind homers  that potentially aren?t even watching.
He?s been a dismal shooter since the playoffs started and there?s a clear ugly hitch to his jump shot that borderline looks like the hitch in Charles Barkley golf swing. It?s bad. But yeah nothing to see here I guess.

On a practical level, it doesn't matter because we just won a championship - and no one 'wins better' if they have a jump shot that looks more like Ray Allen than Shawn Marion.

If we win a ring with Tatum shooting poorly, we should be more than fine with Tatum shooting well. There is fundamentally no reason to get in a twist about it.


one of the reasons i'm bullish on another title. if we could somehow get a hot Tatum and/or a healthy KP in May and June...

It is wild to see how good the Celtics are. They destroyed their competition in the playoffs without playing their best. Imagine if there's another gear....

Listen I love that the Celtics won and I give them credit for playing awesome all year and beating the teams they had in front of them but everything broke their way, every team they played in the east was missing there best player for most of the series and then they miraculously drew the best possible matchup in the finals. Awesome!
But I feel like now we are just going to ignore and think we can just waltz through everyone again with Tatum playing poorly and porzingis injured. Maybe that?s true, maybe every last thing will go our way again.

Rather than setting yourself up for another season of negativity, it might be better to admit that you were wrong throughout last year, that they were an excellent team, and that they have a roster capable of winning again in 2024-25.  It wasn?t that everything went their way, it was that they were the best team in the league and you were wrong all year. They may not win again, but they are clearly again a top tier team. Like every team in the history of every sport, things can go wrong. But on balance, this team goes into the season with a better chance than most teams and as good a chance as any.   They won last year not by fluke but because they were the league?s best team, talented, well-enough coached, and mentally strong. There is zero evidence of complacency and not a single person on earth thinks theyll walz to another championship.  It?s great, though, that they have a team that is capable of repeating.

I prefaced my whole comment by saying they played awesome and were awesome and I give them all the credit and was super thrilled by the title?I can?t just say the truth and say they had a ridiculously easy run in the playoffs? They deserved it and they won the title but if every playoffs was that easy they?d already have 3+ rings

It was no easier than Denver's path to the title. But yet all of last year you went on and on about how Denver was the champs and the best team. You never once mentioned their easy path, yet you now have focused on this for the Celtics, which is a weird flex.

They beat Minnesota, the Suns and the the play in Lakers. Then they got the Heat who had nothing left in the tank.

Who cares who they played. The schedule is the schedule.

The Celtics are the favorites and the front runner to win the title this season, just like the nuggets were last season.
Glad we can?t admit the heat without butler, the cavs without Mitchell for half the series and the pacers without haliburton for half the series was an easy run. Homerism at its finest. I literally give the Celtics all their flowers, best team in the league all year, dominant in the playoffs, amazing team?but there run was easy, sorry we can?t admit that here.

Also I?m not taking anything away from the Celtics for winning last season, I know they?re more than capable of making it through a tough east just like they did when they made the finals in 22, I?m thankful for the easy run because they didn?t run out of gas


Have you considered that the road was easier because the Celtics squad was that much better?

Think about 2022 a little bit more - where we absolutely overachieved in the second half of the season into the playoffs. That was a 'tough' east in the sense that the top four seeds all made it to the second round... but we swept Brooklyn, and save a big seven-game series against Milwaukee, it was also notable for Tatum setting the all-time record for turnovers in a single postseason. Which means that your claim really lies on the fact that the Celtics beat a big, bad, and wildly inconsistent Heat team.

The Heat did win 53 games, but also set postseason records for scoring just one point in the first eight minutes of a game - the longest amount of time from tip-off to a single successful field goal since the 90's - and saw their entire starting lineup combined outscored by one of their bench players. They had one of the worst shooting performances from deep in playoff history. They were always a regular-season paper tiger.
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« Reply #38 on: September 04, 2024, 09:46:54 AM »

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People that are saying there is no issue are just blind homers  that potentially aren?t even watching.
He?s been a dismal shooter since the playoffs started and there?s a clear ugly hitch to his jump shot that borderline looks like the hitch in Charles Barkley golf swing. It?s bad. But yeah nothing to see here I guess.

On a practical level, it doesn't matter because we just won a championship - and no one 'wins better' if they have a jump shot that looks more like Ray Allen than Shawn Marion.

If we win a ring with Tatum shooting poorly, we should be more than fine with Tatum shooting well. There is fundamentally no reason to get in a twist about it.


one of the reasons i'm bullish on another title. if we could somehow get a hot Tatum and/or a healthy KP in May and June...

It is wild to see how good the Celtics are. They destroyed their competition in the playoffs without playing their best. Imagine if there's another gear....

Listen I love that the Celtics won and I give them credit for playing awesome all year and beating the teams they had in front of them but everything broke their way, every team they played in the east was missing there best player for most of the series and then they miraculously drew the best possible matchup in the finals. Awesome!
But I feel like now we are just going to ignore and think we can just waltz through everyone again with Tatum playing poorly and porzingis injured. Maybe that?s true, maybe every last thing will go our way again.

Rather than setting yourself up for another season of negativity, it might be better to admit that you were wrong throughout last year, that they were an excellent team, and that they have a roster capable of winning again in 2024-25.  It wasn?t that everything went their way, it was that they were the best team in the league and you were wrong all year. They may not win again, but they are clearly again a top tier team. Like every team in the history of every sport, things can go wrong. But on balance, this team goes into the season with a better chance than most teams and as good a chance as any.   They won last year not by fluke but because they were the league?s best team, talented, well-enough coached, and mentally strong. There is zero evidence of complacency and not a single person on earth thinks theyll walz to another championship.  It?s great, though, that they have a team that is capable of repeating.

I prefaced my whole comment by saying they played awesome and were awesome and I give them all the credit and was super thrilled by the title?I can?t just say the truth and say they had a ridiculously easy run in the playoffs? They deserved it and they won the title but if every playoffs was that easy they?d already have 3+ rings

It was no easier than Denver's path to the title. But yet all of last year you went on and on about how Denver was the champs and the best team. You never once mentioned their easy path, yet you now have focused on this for the Celtics, which is a weird flex.

They beat Minnesota, the Suns and the the play in Lakers. Then they got the Heat who had nothing left in the tank.

Who cares who they played. The schedule is the schedule.

The Celtics are the favorites and the front runner to win the title this season, just like the nuggets were last season.
Glad we can?t admit the heat without butler, the cavs without Mitchell for half the series and the pacers without haliburton for half the series was an easy run. Homerism at its finest. I literally give the Celtics all their flowers, best team in the league all year, dominant in the playoffs, amazing team?but there run was easy, sorry we can?t admit that here.

Also I?m not taking anything away from the Celtics for winning last season, I know they?re more than capable of making it through a tough east just like they did when they made the finals in 22, I?m thankful for the easy run because they didn?t run out of gas

Who was Dallas missing? You seem to leave them off your easy list every time. Also, you do realize that the Celtics were dominant in the regular season. They had the 5th highest point differential In NBA history. Did Boston have an easy regular season schedule as well?
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« Reply #39 on: September 04, 2024, 11:37:19 AM »

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People that are saying there is no issue are just blind homers  that potentially aren?t even watching.
He?s been a dismal shooter since the playoffs started and there?s a clear ugly hitch to his jump shot that borderline looks like the hitch in Charles Barkley golf swing. It?s bad. But yeah nothing to see here I guess.

On a practical level, it doesn't matter because we just won a championship - and no one 'wins better' if they have a jump shot that looks more like Ray Allen than Shawn Marion.

If we win a ring with Tatum shooting poorly, we should be more than fine with Tatum shooting well. There is fundamentally no reason to get in a twist about it.


one of the reasons i'm bullish on another title. if we could somehow get a hot Tatum and/or a healthy KP in May and June...

It is wild to see how good the Celtics are. They destroyed their competition in the playoffs without playing their best. Imagine if there's another gear....

Listen I love that the Celtics won and I give them credit for playing awesome all year and beating the teams they had in front of them but everything broke their way, every team they played in the east was missing there best player for most of the series and then they miraculously drew the best possible matchup in the finals. Awesome!
But I feel like now we are just going to ignore and think we can just waltz through everyone again with Tatum playing poorly and porzingis injured. Maybe that?s true, maybe every last thing will go our way again.

Rather than setting yourself up for another season of negativity, it might be better to admit that you were wrong throughout last year, that they were an excellent team, and that they have a roster capable of winning again in 2024-25.  It wasn?t that everything went their way, it was that they were the best team in the league and you were wrong all year. They may not win again, but they are clearly again a top tier team. Like every team in the history of every sport, things can go wrong. But on balance, this team goes into the season with a better chance than most teams and as good a chance as any.   They won last year not by fluke but because they were the league?s best team, talented, well-enough coached, and mentally strong. There is zero evidence of complacency and not a single person on earth thinks theyll walz to another championship.  It?s great, though, that they have a team that is capable of repeating.

I prefaced my whole comment by saying they played awesome and were awesome and I give them all the credit and was super thrilled by the title?I can?t just say the truth and say they had a ridiculously easy run in the playoffs? They deserved it and they won the title but if every playoffs was that easy they?d already have 3+ rings

It was no easier than Denver's path to the title. But yet all of last year you went on and on about how Denver was the champs and the best team. You never once mentioned their easy path, yet you now have focused on this for the Celtics, which is a weird flex.

They beat Minnesota, the Suns and the the play in Lakers. Then they got the Heat who had nothing left in the tank.

Who cares who they played. The schedule is the schedule.

The Celtics are the favorites and the front runner to win the title this season, just like the nuggets were last season.
Glad we can?t admit the heat without butler, the cavs without Mitchell for half the series and the pacers without haliburton for half the series was an easy run. Homerism at its finest. I literally give the Celtics all their flowers, best team in the league all year, dominant in the playoffs, amazing team?but there run was easy, sorry we can?t admit that here.

Also I?m not taking anything away from the Celtics for winning last season, I know they?re more than capable of making it through a tough east just like they did when they made the finals in 22, I?m thankful for the easy run because they didn?t run out of gas

Who was Dallas missing? You seem to leave them off your easy list every time. Also, you do realize that the Celtics were dominant in the regular season. They had the 5th highest point differential In NBA history. Did Boston have an easy regular season schedule as well?

As I recall we heard a lot of how great the Bucks were all regular season and how dangerous they were going to be in the EAST playoffs....

Re: Tatum's shot.
« Reply #40 on: September 04, 2024, 03:18:06 PM »

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I hope this easy path narrative dies out eventually.  I think the Celtics did have an easier than expected path through the East. I think if you look back at nearly every champion, the team that wins is the team that had the fewest injuries, gets some breaks along the way.  If people want to look at the Celtics and believe they are not that good because Haliburton was hurt or whatever, fine, I predict that they will be disabused in due course.

It is also true that DAL was more full strength than the Celtics.  They were pretty much 100%, had cruised through the West, were a hot team.  We were missing Porzingis.  The Celtics, even without Porzingis, were a much better team, period.  And the Celtics are gong to be even better this season.

Re: Tatum's shot.
« Reply #41 on: September 04, 2024, 03:34:06 PM »

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People that are saying there is no issue are just blind homers  that potentially aren?t even watching.
He?s been a dismal shooter since the playoffs started and there?s a clear ugly hitch to his jump shot that borderline looks like the hitch in Charles Barkley golf swing. It?s bad. But yeah nothing to see here I guess.

On a practical level, it doesn't matter because we just won a championship - and no one 'wins better' if they have a jump shot that looks more like Ray Allen than Shawn Marion.

If we win a ring with Tatum shooting poorly, we should be more than fine with Tatum shooting well. There is fundamentally no reason to get in a twist about it.


one of the reasons i'm bullish on another title. if we could somehow get a hot Tatum and/or a healthy KP in May and June...

It is wild to see how good the Celtics are. They destroyed their competition in the playoffs without playing their best. Imagine if there's another gear....

Listen I love that the Celtics won and I give them credit for playing awesome all year and beating the teams they had in front of them but everything broke their way, every team they played in the east was missing there best player for most of the series and then they miraculously drew the best possible matchup in the finals. Awesome!
But I feel like now we are just going to ignore and think we can just waltz through everyone again with Tatum playing poorly and porzingis injured. Maybe that?s true, maybe every last thing will go our way again.

Rather than setting yourself up for another season of negativity, it might be better to admit that you were wrong throughout last year, that they were an excellent team, and that they have a roster capable of winning again in 2024-25.  It wasn?t that everything went their way, it was that they were the best team in the league and you were wrong all year. They may not win again, but they are clearly again a top tier team. Like every team in the history of every sport, things can go wrong. But on balance, this team goes into the season with a better chance than most teams and as good a chance as any.   They won last year not by fluke but because they were the league?s best team, talented, well-enough coached, and mentally strong. There is zero evidence of complacency and not a single person on earth thinks theyll walz to another championship.  It?s great, though, that they have a team that is capable of repeating.

I prefaced my whole comment by saying they played awesome and were awesome and I give them all the credit and was super thrilled by the title?I can?t just say the truth and say they had a ridiculously easy run in the playoffs? They deserved it and they won the title but if every playoffs was that easy they?d already have 3+ rings

Coming from you your commentary reads as an implication that if the Cs hadn?t had a ?miraculously easy? path, they wouldn?t have won.  This view allows you to affirm the negativity you spun all year. As if to say you were right all along but the Cs got lucky ? and this year, they?ll show themselves the flawed team that you know them to be.

Had you not been so negative all season, your comments would be taken as every other poster who has pointed out that the Cs got a few breaks in the post-season (along with losing their starting center and having their season MVP forget how to shoot). Most posters are looking at the roster and thinking that the Cs should have another very good year, maybe another great one.

Re: Tatum's shot.
« Reply #42 on: September 04, 2024, 08:39:38 PM »

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People that are saying there is no issue are just blind homers  that potentially aren?t even watching.
He?s been a dismal shooter since the playoffs started and there?s a clear ugly hitch to his jump shot that borderline looks like the hitch in Charles Barkley golf swing. It?s bad. But yeah nothing to see here I guess.

On a practical level, it doesn't matter because we just won a championship - and no one 'wins better' if they have a jump shot that looks more like Ray Allen than Shawn Marion.

If we win a ring with Tatum shooting poorly, we should be more than fine with Tatum shooting well. There is fundamentally no reason to get in a twist about it.


one of the reasons i'm bullish on another title. if we could somehow get a hot Tatum and/or a healthy KP in May and June...

It is wild to see how good the Celtics are. They destroyed their competition in the playoffs without playing their best. Imagine if there's another gear....

Listen I love that the Celtics won and I give them credit for playing awesome all year and beating the teams they had in front of them but everything broke their way, every team they played in the east was missing there best player for most of the series and then they miraculously drew the best possible matchup in the finals. Awesome!
But I feel like now we are just going to ignore and think we can just waltz through everyone again with Tatum playing poorly and porzingis injured. Maybe that?s true, maybe every last thing will go our way again.

Rather than setting yourself up for another season of negativity, it might be better to admit that you were wrong throughout last year, that they were an excellent team, and that they have a roster capable of winning again in 2024-25.  It wasn?t that everything went their way, it was that they were the best team in the league and you were wrong all year. They may not win again, but they are clearly again a top tier team. Like every team in the history of every sport, things can go wrong. But on balance, this team goes into the season with a better chance than most teams and as good a chance as any.   They won last year not by fluke but because they were the league?s best team, talented, well-enough coached, and mentally strong. There is zero evidence of complacency and not a single person on earth thinks theyll walz to another championship.  It?s great, though, that they have a team that is capable of repeating.

I prefaced my whole comment by saying they played awesome and were awesome and I give them all the credit and was super thrilled by the title?I can?t just say the truth and say they had a ridiculously easy run in the playoffs? They deserved it and they won the title but if every playoffs was that easy they?d already have 3+ rings

It was no easier than Denver's path to the title. But yet all of last year you went on and on about how Denver was the champs and the best team. You never once mentioned their easy path, yet you now have focused on this for the Celtics, which is a weird flex.

They beat Minnesota, the Suns and the the play in Lakers. Then they got the Heat who had nothing left in the tank.

Who cares who they played. The schedule is the schedule.

The Celtics are the favorites and the front runner to win the title this season, just like the nuggets were last season.
Glad we can?t admit the heat without butler, the cavs without Mitchell for half the series and the pacers without haliburton for half the series was an easy run. Homerism at its finest. I literally give the Celtics all their flowers, best team in the league all year, dominant in the playoffs, amazing team?but there run was easy, sorry we can?t admit that here.

Also I?m not taking anything away from the Celtics for winning last season, I know they?re more than capable of making it through a tough east just like they did when they made the finals in 22, I?m thankful for the easy run because they didn?t run out of gas

Who was Dallas missing? You seem to leave them off your easy list every time. Also, you do realize that the Celtics were dominant in the regular season. They had the 5th highest point differential In NBA history. Did Boston have an easy regular season schedule as well?

I never said Dallas was missing anybody I?ve only mentioned that they were easily the best matchup we could?ve ever dreamt of getting. Disagree with that too?
I?ve also mentioned in every one of my posts that Boston deserved the easy path because they earned the easy path and were the best team all year.

Re: Tatum's shot.
« Reply #43 on: September 04, 2024, 08:44:03 PM »

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People that are saying there is no issue are just blind homers  that potentially aren?t even watching.
He?s been a dismal shooter since the playoffs started and there?s a clear ugly hitch to his jump shot that borderline looks like the hitch in Charles Barkley golf swing. It?s bad. But yeah nothing to see here I guess.

On a practical level, it doesn't matter because we just won a championship - and no one 'wins better' if they have a jump shot that looks more like Ray Allen than Shawn Marion.

If we win a ring with Tatum shooting poorly, we should be more than fine with Tatum shooting well. There is fundamentally no reason to get in a twist about it.


one of the reasons i'm bullish on another title. if we could somehow get a hot Tatum and/or a healthy KP in May and June...

It is wild to see how good the Celtics are. They destroyed their competition in the playoffs without playing their best. Imagine if there's another gear....

Listen I love that the Celtics won and I give them credit for playing awesome all year and beating the teams they had in front of them but everything broke their way, every team they played in the east was missing there best player for most of the series and then they miraculously drew the best possible matchup in the finals. Awesome!
But I feel like now we are just going to ignore and think we can just waltz through everyone again with Tatum playing poorly and porzingis injured. Maybe that?s true, maybe every last thing will go our way again.

Rather than setting yourself up for another season of negativity, it might be better to admit that you were wrong throughout last year, that they were an excellent team, and that they have a roster capable of winning again in 2024-25.  It wasn?t that everything went their way, it was that they were the best team in the league and you were wrong all year. They may not win again, but they are clearly again a top tier team. Like every team in the history of every sport, things can go wrong. But on balance, this team goes into the season with a better chance than most teams and as good a chance as any.   They won last year not by fluke but because they were the league?s best team, talented, well-enough coached, and mentally strong. There is zero evidence of complacency and not a single person on earth thinks theyll walz to another championship.  It?s great, though, that they have a team that is capable of repeating.

I prefaced my whole comment by saying they played awesome and were awesome and I give them all the credit and was super thrilled by the title?I can?t just say the truth and say they had a ridiculously easy run in the playoffs? They deserved it and they won the title but if every playoffs was that easy they?d already have 3+ rings

Coming from you your commentary reads as an implication that if the Cs hadn?t had a ?miraculously easy? path, they wouldn?t have won.  This view allows you to affirm the negativity you spun all year. As if to say you were right all along but the Cs got lucky ? and this year, they?ll show themselves the flawed team that you know them to be.

Had you not been so negative all season, your comments would be taken as every other poster who has pointed out that the Cs got a few breaks in the post-season (along with losing their starting center and having their season MVP forget how to shoot). Most posters are looking at the roster and thinking that the Cs should have another very good year, maybe another great one.

I had high expectations for them this past season, and I?d say rightfully so and they ended up meeting those expectations no doubt, but sure I was critical and skeptical of them along the way.
Nowhere have I said they wouldn?t have won even if they didn?t have an easy path in the playoffs, I think they should?ve won no matter what. That was the expectation. Doesn?t take away the fact that they indeed had a really easy path through the east and got the 5th seed mavs In the finals.

Re: Tatum's shot.
« Reply #44 on: September 04, 2024, 08:46:35 PM »

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People that are saying there is no issue are just blind homers  that potentially aren?t even watching.
He?s been a dismal shooter since the playoffs started and there?s a clear ugly hitch to his jump shot that borderline looks like the hitch in Charles Barkley golf swing. It?s bad. But yeah nothing to see here I guess.

On a practical level, it doesn't matter because we just won a championship - and no one 'wins better' if they have a jump shot that looks more like Ray Allen than Shawn Marion.

If we win a ring with Tatum shooting poorly, we should be more than fine with Tatum shooting well. There is fundamentally no reason to get in a twist about it.


one of the reasons i'm bullish on another title. if we could somehow get a hot Tatum and/or a healthy KP in May and June...

It is wild to see how good the Celtics are. They destroyed their competition in the playoffs without playing their best. Imagine if there's another gear....

Listen I love that the Celtics won and I give them credit for playing awesome all year and beating the teams they had in front of them but everything broke their way, every team they played in the east was missing there best player for most of the series and then they miraculously drew the best possible matchup in the finals. Awesome!
But I feel like now we are just going to ignore and think we can just waltz through everyone again with Tatum playing poorly and porzingis injured. Maybe that?s true, maybe every last thing will go our way again.

Rather than setting yourself up for another season of negativity, it might be better to admit that you were wrong throughout last year, that they were an excellent team, and that they have a roster capable of winning again in 2024-25.  It wasn?t that everything went their way, it was that they were the best team in the league and you were wrong all year. They may not win again, but they are clearly again a top tier team. Like every team in the history of every sport, things can go wrong. But on balance, this team goes into the season with a better chance than most teams and as good a chance as any.   They won last year not by fluke but because they were the league?s best team, talented, well-enough coached, and mentally strong. There is zero evidence of complacency and not a single person on earth thinks theyll walz to another championship.  It?s great, though, that they have a team that is capable of repeating.

I prefaced my whole comment by saying they played awesome and were awesome and I give them all the credit and was super thrilled by the title?I can?t just say the truth and say they had a ridiculously easy run in the playoffs? They deserved it and they won the title but if every playoffs was that easy they?d already have 3+ rings

It was no easier than Denver's path to the title. But yet all of last year you went on and on about how Denver was the champs and the best team. You never once mentioned their easy path, yet you now have focused on this for the Celtics, which is a weird flex.

They beat Minnesota, the Suns and the the play in Lakers. Then they got the Heat who had nothing left in the tank.

Who cares who they played. The schedule is the schedule.

The Celtics are the favorites and the front runner to win the title this season, just like the nuggets were last season.
Glad we can?t admit the heat without butler, the cavs without Mitchell for half the series and the pacers without haliburton for half the series was an easy run. Homerism at its finest. I literally give the Celtics all their flowers, best team in the league all year, dominant in the playoffs, amazing team?but there run was easy, sorry we can?t admit that here.

Also I?m not taking anything away from the Celtics for winning last season, I know they?re more than capable of making it through a tough east just like they did when they made the finals in 22, I?m thankful for the easy run because they didn?t run out of gas

Who was Dallas missing? You seem to leave them off your easy list every time. Also, you do realize that the Celtics were dominant in the regular season. They had the 5th highest point differential In NBA history. Did Boston have an easy regular season schedule as well?

As I recall we heard a lot of how great the Bucks were all regular season and how dangerous they were going to be in the EAST playoffs....

I was clearly proven wrong about the bucks last season my guy?.but again Giannis didn?t even play in the playoffs because again another team was injured. Congrats on pointing that out.