The Beginning of a Dynasty?

[keevsnick]

Dynasties will be tough given the punishing tax that takes hold in 25-26. The C's payed a little over 40 million in tax this year,with roughly the same relative spending in 25-26 they'd pay 100+ million due to entering repeater tax territory. They'd also get their future draft picks frozen if they stay over the 2nd apron.

[Moranis]

The Athletic's John Hollinger doesn't think we can be a dynasty.

Coming off a dominant season in a shattered Eastern Conference, the Celtics could hardly be in a better position to defend their title. And yet, even as we acknowledge Boston as a clear favorite, I?ll urge some caution as we head into next season. As I noted at the top, things are never as inevitable as they seem. A Celtics cynic could point out a few things:

• Their system depends heavily on two rare centers, one of whom is very old and the other of whom is very injury-prone.
• While Tatum is great, the Celtics are unlikely to have the best player on the court in any important series.
• The East may not be such a cakewalk next time around: We never saw the Milwaukee Bucks at full strength, the Philadelphia 76ers and Indiana Pacers are positioned to heavily rearm themselves in the offseason and the New York Knicks are building the same kind of ensemble cast the Celtics dominated with. And surely the Miami Heat aren?t going to take all this lying down ? right?

They?re great, basically. But they?re not inevitable. In a 30-team league, it takes tremendous fortune to survive the playoff meat-grinder even once. Boston is in a better position than anyone else to do it again, but recent history suggests betting on the field might still be the sharper play.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5569914/2024/06/18/boston-celtics-salary-cap-nba-free-agency/

These are all fair points. We can obviously disagree but I do think the first point is worth noting. They need to hope at least one of Tillman/Queta can carve out a bigger role OR acquire another depth big to help KP/Horford given KP's injury history and Horford's age.

I'm not so sure about the 3rd point. I mean NY and Indiana can absolutely rise and some things depend on what these teams do in FA. But is Embiid expected to stay healthy all year? Giannis? Butler? We'll see. I mean I just think it's also just as likely people in the national media will complain about our "easy path" again a year from now 

But we can worry about this stuff later. I'm still in heaven after winning it all just 2 days ago 

They don't have to be healthy all year, they just need to be healthy in the playoffs. Now that may be asking a lot for them, but it isn't like they need 8 months of health, just 2.

[celticinorlando]

Boston wins it again next season.

[Atzar]

I don't think I'd ever predict a dynasty in this sport, to be honest. 

[SHAQATTACK]

Hang n THREE Banners , but not in a Row,  two more in 10 years , as  I believe other older superstars will sign up for a final chance a glory and another ring.

Our team, is basically young except Al. 

I?d check out  , future free agents that might leave the Lakers , Clippers , Nuggets or Warrior . ?.as they all need rebuild's.

[aefgogreen]

My concern is keeping our bigs healthy - I?m guessing neither play back to backs

[#1P4P]

We will win the next 2 out of 4 and to win 3 in a 5 season span would be a Dynasty.

Aside from the factual evidence that since JB has been on this team, we?ve made the Eastern Conference Finals in 6 out of 8 seasons.

This team has is anchored by Tatum, who is one of, if not, the most durable superstar in the NBA; everyone else averages over 80% of the games except for KP (who only played in 5 of the 19 playoff games). This team shares the workload to the point, where no one is being overworked. When KP went down, Jrue and Derrick, immediately stepped in to take his scoring load with Al having 20+ point scoring games.

I?m expecting JT?s best individual season in the NBA. Tatum will find his go to move/spot in the midrange and complete his puzzle. This might not lead to a greater season win total, but it will come in handy when the playoffs roll around.

I?m expecting improvement from the young players. Brad?s roster construction/team building will shine even brighter when Jordan Walsh turns into an above average role player (imagine him subbing at the wing or a jumbo Holiday/White-Brown-Walsh-Tatum-Big lineup). Payton and Sam have gotten progressively better; they?ll get stronger and will find the confidence/balance in their energy to play both ends. Tillman, Queta, Kornet, Brisett, Springer, etc. Brad is just an awesome identifier of role players that fit well with our core and pivots quickly to a better fit if it can be better.

This Season/Championship just the beginning.

[Chef Parish]

Maybe when the champagne wears off, we can be more realistic.

[cman88]

Maybe when the champagne wears off, we can be more realistic.

We have been in the ECF almost every year. It?s not unrealistic to think we will continue to be in the mix and have a good shot to win it all as long as we have Tatum and brown.

[SparzWizard]

Udonis Haslem on ESPN just ranked the most dominant franchises dating back to 2000

1) Lakers
2) Warriors
3) Spurs
4) Heat
5) Celtics

C's gotta win several more during their upcoming dynasty to shut this clown up

[Phantom255x]

Udonis Haslem on ESPN just ranked the most dominant franchises dating back to 2000

1) Lakers
2) Warriors
3) Spurs
4) Heat
5) Celtics

C's gotta win several more during their upcoming dynasty to shut this clown up

I still think the list is fair right now. But Boston can absolutely climb this especially if they win another title in the next year or two. The Top-3 have won 4 or more titles since 2000, and Miami has won 3. If Boston gets a 3rd (2008, 2024 and another) and keeps this core I would put them ahead of MIA.

[Donoghus]

Udonis Haslem on ESPN just ranked the most dominant franchises dating back to 2000

1) Lakers
2) Warriors
3) Spurs
4) Heat
5) Celtics

C's gotta win several more during their upcoming dynasty to shut this clown up

I still think the list is fair right now. But Boston can absolutely climb this especially if they win another title in the next year or two. The Top-3 have won 4 or more titles since 2000, and Miami has won 3. If Boston gets a 3rd (2008, 2024 and another) and keeps this core I would put them ahead of MIA.

Yeah, I don?t see the outrage here. Sure, Haslem is a joke but he?s right on this one.  All of those organizations have more titles than the Celtics this century.  What?s the issue?

[Kuberski33]

My recommendation would be to just enjoy what's happened this season and don't assume it's going to happen again next year, in 2 years or whatever. There are too many variables - injuries being the big one. Also keeping the core together.

Porizingis in Game 5 reminded me of Bill Walton his last season here. KC Jones would run him out there to get a pop from the crowd during the playoffs, but he couldn't move anymore and really couldn't do much, if anything.

I wouldn't assume that Porzingis will be back to his previous level next season either.  Foot injuries with 7 footers (Walton for example) are often problematic. Couple that with this being a rare almost freak injury and I'm not certain that the road to recovery is guaranteed.  They're already saying 'months'. 

Then you factor in Al's age, that changing nature of the other teams (someone will have a great off-season strengthening their roster) there are too many unknowns.

The KG Celtics should have won at least one more title and maybe 2 except that injuries to key players got them.

Some NBA teams are likely to go 100+ years without winning a title the way the league is set up. Winning a title is HARD. I'd say enjoy what they just did. It was a wonderful story.

[Somebody]

I agree with what a lot of posters have said: winning a title is incredibly difficult and we should enjoy what the club has just done. The '76 Celtics felt like they could go for a couple more runs (their best player was at the peak of his powers at 26 years of age, JoJo was in his prime, Havlicek was aging gracefully), but Cowens lost his passion for the game that summer and declined from being a top 3-5 player in the league into a top 10-15 guy, their role players regressed hard and that was more or less it when JoJo had a severe injury in '78 after a disappointing '77 campaign. I'm not saying that both situations are comparable, but anything can happen.

[csfansince60s]

Don?t want to jinx it by saying yes.

The Pierce/KG/Allen group should?ve won at least three. KG?s injury one year and perks injury. Another really screwed them? Bad luck.