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Re: Celtics 2024 Playoff Run Thread
« Reply #345 on: May 17, 2024, 07:04:47 AM »

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NYK knicks fans are annoying too. especially the younger ones so much overconfidence. would be amazing to have tatum and the celtics silence them in the garden.

I also think a team that plays hard buzzer to buzzer would be good for the celtics to get them prepared for what they would face in the finals.

but there will be some questionable call that gives NYC a game. just like game 1 vs. Indiana.

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« Reply #346 on: May 17, 2024, 08:00:58 AM »

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Re: Celtics 2024 Playoff Run Thread
« Reply #347 on: May 17, 2024, 10:47:08 AM »

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IT never got the Celtics out of the ECF and I don’t think Brunson will be able to carry the Knicks that far either.

IT dealt with multiple injuries, and the rest of the team wasn’t ready, while Brunson’s main support has been injured, so not the same situation, but I don’t see Brunson being enough on his own. He’s not 7 foot tall like Giannis, Embiid or Joker.

Re: Celtics 2024 Playoff Run Thread
« Reply #348 on: May 17, 2024, 11:05:03 AM »

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IT never got the Celtics out of the ECF and I don’t think Brunson will be able to carry the Knicks that far either.

IT dealt with multiple injuries, and the rest of the team wasn’t ready, while Brunson’s main support has been injured, so not the same situation, but I don’t see Brunson being enough on his own. He’s not 7 foot tall like Giannis, Embiid or Joker.

After 3 fairly close games, the last two have been 20+ routes, one for IND, one for NYK.  It it pretty impressive that Brunson has carried the team as far already as he has.  But last game, Haliburton seemed to disappear, is he nursing an injury?

IND is favored in Game 6, but I am not sure that means much.  Home team has won every game, the spread is probably reacting to that.  I would think IND wins this but not if Haliburton is less than 100%.

Re: Celtics 2024 Playoff Run Thread
« Reply #349 on: May 17, 2024, 11:27:45 AM »

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Tired of “experts” saying we went thru both rounds cause Miami didn’t have Butler & Cavs didn’t have Allen or Mitchell for 2 games…they forgetting we haven’t had Porzingus either
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Re: Celtics 2024 Playoff Run Thread
« Reply #350 on: May 17, 2024, 12:25:55 PM »

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Tired of “experts” saying we went thru both rounds cause Miami didn’t have Butler & Cavs didn’t have Allen or Mitchell for 2 games…they forgetting we haven’t had Porzingus either

Yes, I would say that the national media is underplaying how much impact Porzingis has on the team.  If you only look at the starters, you see Horford in for Porzingis and that does appear to be so much of a difference.  But the difference is when you have Kornet playing the minutes off the bench that Horford would be playing if he wasn't starting in place of Porzingis.  So it is really Kornet who is replacing most of the minutes Porzingis would be playing.  That is a big drop off.

I get that BOS is still expected to beat CLE or MIA without Porzingis.  Same for NYK/IND.  I don't mind that we are being kind of underhyped.  That is fine, probably works in our favor.

Re: Celtics 2024 Playoff Run Thread
« Reply #351 on: May 17, 2024, 12:59:07 PM »

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IT never got the Celtics out of the ECF and I don’t think Brunson will be able to carry the Knicks that far either.

IT dealt with multiple injuries, and the rest of the team wasn’t ready, while Brunson’s main support has been injured, so not the same situation, but I don’t see Brunson being enough on his own. He’s not 7 foot tall like Giannis, Embiid or Joker.

After 3 fairly close games, the last two have been 20+ routes, one for IND, one for NYK.  It it pretty impressive that Brunson has carried the team as far already as he has.  But last game, Haliburton seemed to disappear, is he nursing an injury?

IND is favored in Game 6, but I am not sure that means much.  Home team has won every game, the spread is probably reacting to that.  I would think IND wins this but not if Haliburton is less than 100%.

Haliburton was questionable for the previous game. Two injuries. One was a back injury. I can't remember the other. Something to do with his legs. Knee, calf, ankle. Something like that. They weren't sure he would be able to play. So he is banged up.

Edit: Ankle injury. Sacral contusion [lower back bruise]. Back spasms.

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« Reply #352 on: May 17, 2024, 02:38:15 PM »

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Tired of “experts” saying we went thru both rounds cause Miami didn’t have Butler & Cavs didn’t have Allen or Mitchell for 2 games…they forgetting we haven’t had Porzingus either

Yes, I would say that the national media is underplaying how much impact Porzingis has on the team.  If you only look at the starters, you see Horford in for Porzingis and that does appear to be so much of a difference.  But the difference is when you have Kornet playing the minutes off the bench that Horford would be playing if he wasn't starting in place of Porzingis.  So it is really Kornet who is replacing most of the minutes Porzingis would be playing.  That is a big drop off.

I get that BOS is still expected to beat CLE or MIA without Porzingis.  Same for NYK/IND.  I don't mind that we are being kind of underhyped.  That is fine, probably works in our favor.

And if we win the whole thing, they will be like "Heat didn't have Butler/Rozier. Cavs didn't have Mitchell/Lavert/Allen. Knicks were worn out with Brunson banged up with other players out. Nuggets were worn out from their bloodbath of a Western Conference. Celtics got very lucky winning this title that it should be invalid."


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Re: Celtics 2024 Playoff Run Thread
« Reply #353 on: May 17, 2024, 02:39:39 PM »

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Tired of “experts” saying we went thru both rounds cause Miami didn’t have Butler & Cavs didn’t have Allen or Mitchell for 2 games…they forgetting we haven’t had Porzingus either

Yes, I would say that the national media is underplaying how much impact Porzingis has on the team.  If you only look at the starters, you see Horford in for Porzingis and that does appear to be so much of a difference.  But the difference is when you have Kornet playing the minutes off the bench that Horford would be playing if he wasn't starting in place of Porzingis.  So it is really Kornet who is replacing most of the minutes Porzingis would be playing.  That is a big drop off.

I get that BOS is still expected to beat CLE or MIA without Porzingis.  Same for NYK/IND.  I don't mind that we are being kind of underhyped.  That is fine, probably works in our favor.

And if we win the whole thing, they will be like "Heat didn't have Butler/Rozier. Cavs didn't have Mitchell/Lavert/Allen. Knicks were worn out with Brunson banged up with other players out. Nuggets were worn out from their bloodbath of a Western Conference. Celtics got very lucky winning this title that it should be invalid."
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« Reply #354 on: May 17, 2024, 02:50:58 PM »

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Tired of “experts” saying we went thru both rounds cause Miami didn’t have Butler & Cavs didn’t have Allen or Mitchell for 2 games…they forgetting we haven’t had Porzingus either

Yes, I would say that the national media is underplaying how much impact Porzingis has on the team.  If you only look at the starters, you see Horford in for Porzingis and that does appear to be so much of a difference.  But the difference is when you have Kornet playing the minutes off the bench that Horford would be playing if he wasn't starting in place of Porzingis.  So it is really Kornet who is replacing most of the minutes Porzingis would be playing.  That is a big drop off.

I get that BOS is still expected to beat CLE or MIA without Porzingis.  Same for NYK/IND.  I don't mind that we are being kind of underhyped.  That is fine, probably works in our favor.

And if we win the whole thing, they will be like "Heat didn't have Butler/Rozier. Cavs didn't have Mitchell/Lavert/Allen. Knicks were worn out with Brunson banged up with other players out. Nuggets were worn out from their bloodbath of a Western Conference. Celtics got very lucky winning this title that it should be invalid."

Honestly, I couldn't care less if they say it and I couldn't care less if it's true.  I've been a fan for 35 years and seen one freaking championship.  I certainly don't want anyone to get injured but if those are the circumstances and it helps them win, so be it.

Re: Celtics 2024 Playoff Run Thread
« Reply #355 on: May 17, 2024, 02:59:36 PM »

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It is interesting looking at all the injuries.  NKY lost Randle a while ago.  I think Randle's impact to NYK is similar to Porzingis' impact to BOS.  Even if Brown is the so called #2, Porzingis is probably a more impactful loss than Brown would be due to how little depth we have in the big rotation.  If Brown were out, his minutes would be made up for with Hauser, White, and Holiday.  All of them would play more minutes.

With Porzingis out, it is a few more minutes for Horford and a lot more minutes for Kornet.  Kornet has held his own, but it is a significant drop off.  And you could see how CLE was figuring out how to exploit Kornet as the series progressed.

But MIA not having Butler was huge.  CLE didn't have Jarrett Allen but that is less impact than Porzingis.  Mitchell going down of course was very big.  The Celtics path has been pretty easy so far.  That is true.  And both IND, to some degree, and NYK are shorthanded too.  BOS will be a heavy favorite in either case, no matter when Porzingis can play.  But what is BOS supposed to do?  You can't expect a sweep every round, just because the other team has injuries.

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« Reply #356 on: May 17, 2024, 03:02:14 PM »

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IT never got the Celtics out of the ECF and I don’t think Brunson will be able to carry the Knicks that far either.

IT dealt with multiple injuries, and the rest of the team wasn’t ready, while Brunson’s main support has been injured, so not the same situation, but I don’t see Brunson being enough on his own. He’s not 7 foot tall like Giannis, Embiid or Joker.

It would have been nice to see a healthy Knicks team. I don't think they would've been great but they would've been tough. Maybe similar to Pat Ewing's Knicks in 1990s. Never as good as Chicago but very tough in their own right.

G: Brunson, McBride
G: DiVincenzo, J Hart
F: Anunoby, Bogdanovic
F: Randle
C: Hartenstein, M Robinson

They did look like they could be a dominant regular season with Randle, Anunoby and Brunson together. I am not sure it is good enough offensively to be dominant in the playoffs but it sure would be a difficult hard working, physical, defensive team to play against.

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« Reply #357 on: May 17, 2024, 03:15:47 PM »

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OG coming back for the ECF is an idea detached from reality.
Yeah, I would be shocked if he came back.

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« Reply #358 on: May 17, 2024, 07:36:22 PM »

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OG coming back for the ECF is an idea detached from reality.
Yeah, I would be shocked if he came back.

I understand not thinking he can come back from a hamstring injury that looked pretty bad this quickly, but with reports circulating that he could be ready for G7 and the ECF why do you think not?   

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« Reply #359 on: May 17, 2024, 08:10:11 PM »

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OG coming back for the ECF is an idea detached from reality.
Yeah, I would be shocked if he came back.

I understand not thinking he can come back from a hamstring injury that looked pretty bad this quickly, but with reports circulating that he could be ready for G7 and the ECF why do you think not?

I was not aware of reports saying Anunoby could be back for Gm 7. I thought he was done for the season the way he came down with that injury. I did not think there would be any chance he would be back in this series or the next one.

My thinking was they were not being honest about how bad the injury was. Keeping hope for the team he'd return at some point. And opposition on their toes that he would return at some point. Not because there was actually a chance he would return. The injury looked too bad for a quick return.

But hey maybe that is wrong. Maybe it is not as bad as it looked and he is actually close to a return.