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Re: Celtics News
« Reply #3135 on: Yesterday at 04:44:36 PM »

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A look at where things stand at moment.



I cannot see Hauser starting for Boston this upcoming season.

I don't view him as a starting-level player. He improved somewhat last season as a defender and even a bit at creating non-3pt opportunities for himself, but he's still basically a specialist to be brought in against the other team's bench players or when the team needs a jolt of offense.
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Re: Celtics News
« Reply #3136 on: Yesterday at 09:42:45 PM »

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Speaking on SportsCenter, ESPN NBA insider Shams Charania reported that Wednesday?s trade was not due to Brown asking for a fresh start elsewhere.

For the Celtics, where this had come down to is they tried to trade for Giannis [Antetokounmpo]. They offered Jaylen Brown and two unprotected first-round picks for Giannis. They missed out, Charania said. But ever since then, you know what?s been interesting? They didn?t just stop the conversations there.​

They continued to have trade talks, and by today they were actively shopping, full-blown shopping Jaylen Brown around the league, trying to get teams? best offers in. My understanding is [that] Jaylen Brown, throughout all this, never requested a trade. He never asked out of Boston. This was all the Celtics.

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Re: Celtics News
« Reply #3137 on: Yesterday at 10:32:49 PM »

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[Windhorst] Even though Jaylen Brown was talking about himself for MVP, the Celtics did not feel like Jaylen had the best season on their team. They felt that Derrick White had a better season.

Huh??? D-White had a down year and struggled for stretches, especially when Tatum was out, and then proceeded to have an AWFUL Sixers series.

Yeah this front office has gone bananas. Stevens might just be the new Nico Harrison now.

Or it could very well be Bill Chisolm and ownership. Either way, it's a mess
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Re: Celtics News
« Reply #3138 on: Yesterday at 10:44:19 PM »

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[Windhorst] Even though Jaylen Brown was talking about himself for MVP, the Celtics did not feel like Jaylen had the best season on their team. They felt that Derrick White had a better season.

Huh??? D-White had a down year and struggled for stretches, especially when Tatum was out, and then proceeded to have an AWFUL Sixers series.

Yeah this front office has gone bananas. Stevens might just be the new Nico Harrison now.

Or it could very well be Bill Chisolm and ownership. Either way, it's a mess

I mean, the Celtics were 9.7 points per 100 better when D White played and 4.6 points worse than their season average when JB played.  Both were starters and played tons of minutes, so you can make a credible argument that White had a better year in terms of positively impacting the game.  Is it correct?  Debatable.  Defensible?  Yes.  White was 1st team All-Defense, it is not like he did not have a really good season, despite the shooting woes. 

Did they both stink in the playoffs? Yes.

Re: Celtics News
« Reply #3139 on: Yesterday at 11:16:42 PM »

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[Windhorst] Even though Jaylen Brown was talking about himself for MVP, the Celtics did not feel like Jaylen had the best season on their team. They felt that Derrick White had a better season.

Huh??? D-White had a down year and struggled for stretches, especially when Tatum was out, and then proceeded to have an AWFUL Sixers series.

Yeah this front office has gone bananas. Stevens might just be the new Nico Harrison now.

Or it could very well be Bill Chisolm and ownership. Either way, it's a mess

I mean, the Celtics were 9.7 points per 100 better when D White played and 4.6 points worse than their season average when JB played.  Both were starters and played tons of minutes, so you can make a credible argument that White had a better year in terms of positively impacting the game.  Is it correct?  Debatable.  Defensible?  Yes.  White was 1st team All-Defense, it is not like he did not have a really good season, despite the shooting woes. 

Did they both stink in the playoffs? Yes.

I find it hard to put a value on D White when his shooting is so bad. I see the case when he is shooting the ball.

I see the case for him still being a positive contributor when he is shooting the ball badly. But a large positive? I don't know about that.

Re: Celtics News
« Reply #3140 on: Yesterday at 11:17:24 PM »

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[Windhorst] Even though Jaylen Brown was talking about himself for MVP, the Celtics did not feel like Jaylen had the best season on their team. They felt that Derrick White had a better season.

Huh??? D-White had a down year and struggled for stretches, especially when Tatum was out, and then proceeded to have an AWFUL Sixers series.

Yeah this front office has gone bananas. Stevens might just be the new Nico Harrison now.

Or it could very well be Bill Chisolm and ownership. Either way, it's a mess

I mean, the Celtics were 9.7 points per 100 better when D White played and 4.6 points worse than their season average when JB played.  Both were starters and played tons of minutes, so you can make a credible argument that White had a better year in terms of positively impacting the game.  Is it correct?  Debatable.  Defensible?  Yes.  White was 1st team All-Defense, it is not like he did not have a really good season, despite the shooting woes. 

Did they both stink in the playoffs? Yes.

I find it hard to put a value on D White when his shooting is so bad. I see the case when he is shooting the ball.

I see the case for him still being a positive contributor when he is shooting the ball badly. But a large positive? I don't know about that.

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« Reply #3141 on: Today at 01:10:11 AM »

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[Windhorst] Even though Jaylen Brown was talking about himself for MVP, the Celtics did not feel like Jaylen had the best season on their team. They felt that Derrick White had a better season.

Huh??? D-White had a down year and struggled for stretches, especially when Tatum was out, and then proceeded to have an AWFUL Sixers series.

Yeah this front office has gone bananas. Stevens might just be the new Nico Harrison now.

Or it could very well be Bill Chisolm and ownership. Either way, it's a mess

I mean, the Celtics were 9.7 points per 100 better when D White played and 4.6 points worse than their season average when JB played.  Both were starters and played tons of minutes, so you can make a credible argument that White had a better year in terms of positively impacting the game.  Is it correct?  Debatable.  Defensible?  Yes.  White was 1st team All-Defense, it is not like he did not have a really good season, despite the shooting woes. 

Did they both stink in the playoffs? Yes.

So it's about the analytics huh. Brad is an analytics guy.

To hell with analytics. Throw it in the trash. It's about what's on the floor and feeling the momentum. I didn't see it from White.


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« Reply #3142 on: Today at 05:28:46 PM »

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The Boston Celtics never seriously considered trading Jayson Tatum despite recent inquiries from rival teams, according to ESPN's Shams Charania. Boston instead determined weeks ago that it needed to move on from Jaylen Brown, ultimately sending him to the Philadelphia 76ers for Paul George and two future first round picks.

"Whether it was personal situations between the two players or whether it was just the on-court basketball fit, the Celtics had just made the determination that, moving forward, they can no longer win a championship, clearly, with Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum," said Charania on Thursday's episode of Get Up. "The Celtics received calls on Jayson Tatum over the last couple of weeks. They shut those down completely, from my understanding. But when it came to Jaylen Brown, they were open to listening, and they have been for quite some time now."
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« Reply #3143 on: Today at 06:14:04 PM »

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Apparently Hugo looked good playing for Spain.

https://x.com/NIKNBAYT/status/2072757067387908228

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« Reply #3144 on: Today at 06:17:15 PM »

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Apparently Hugo looked good playing for Spain.

https://x.com/NIKNBAYT/status/2072757067387908228

Grasping here, but what if Hugo adds a reliable shot to his game this year.  Having no JB opens that door and though it seems to soon for it to happen but maybe Hugo takes a bigger leap than anticipated. And simultaneously that explains Brads unwillingness to move him.