Celtics News

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

A look at where things stand at moment.

I cannot see Hauser starting for Boston this upcoming season.

I don't view him as a starting-level player. He improved somewhat last season as a defender and even a bit at creating non-3pt opportunities for himself, but he's still basically a specialist to be brought in against the other team's bench players or when the team needs a jolt of offense.

[Goldstar88]

Speaking on SportsCenter, ESPN NBA insider Shams Charania reported that Wednesday?s trade was not due to Brown asking for a fresh start elsewhere.

For the Celtics, where this had come down to is they tried to trade for Giannis [Antetokounmpo]. They offered Jaylen Brown and two unprotected first-round picks for Giannis. They missed out, Charania said. But ever since then, you know what?s been interesting? They didn?t just stop the conversations there.​

They continued to have trade talks, and by today they were actively shopping, full-blown shopping Jaylen Brown around the league, trying to get teams? best offers in. My understanding is [that] Jaylen Brown, throughout all this, never requested a trade. He never asked out of Boston. This was all the Celtics.

[Phantom255x]

[Windhorst] Even though Jaylen Brown was talking about himself for MVP, the Celtics did not feel like Jaylen had the best season on their team. They felt that Derrick White had a better season.

Huh??? D-White had a down year and struggled for stretches, especially when Tatum was out, and then proceeded to have an AWFUL Sixers series.

Yeah this front office has gone bananas. Stevens might just be the new Nico Harrison now.

Or it could very well be Bill Chisolm and ownership. Either way, it's a mess

[Celtics2021]

[Windhorst] Even though Jaylen Brown was talking about himself for MVP, the Celtics did not feel like Jaylen had the best season on their team. They felt that Derrick White had a better season.

Huh??? D-White had a down year and struggled for stretches, especially when Tatum was out, and then proceeded to have an AWFUL Sixers series.

Yeah this front office has gone bananas. Stevens might just be the new Nico Harrison now.

Or it could very well be Bill Chisolm and ownership. Either way, it's a mess

I mean, the Celtics were 9.7 points per 100 better when D White played and 4.6 points worse than their season average when JB played.  Both were starters and played tons of minutes, so you can make a credible argument that White had a better year in terms of positively impacting the game.  Is it correct?  Debatable.  Defensible?  Yes.  White was 1st team All-Defense, it is not like he did not have a really good season, despite the shooting woes. 

Did they both stink in the playoffs? Yes.

[Who]

[Windhorst] Even though Jaylen Brown was talking about himself for MVP, the Celtics did not feel like Jaylen had the best season on their team. They felt that Derrick White had a better season.

Huh??? D-White had a down year and struggled for stretches, especially when Tatum was out, and then proceeded to have an AWFUL Sixers series.

Yeah this front office has gone bananas. Stevens might just be the new Nico Harrison now.

Or it could very well be Bill Chisolm and ownership. Either way, it's a mess

I mean, the Celtics were 9.7 points per 100 better when D White played and 4.6 points worse than their season average when JB played.  Both were starters and played tons of minutes, so you can make a credible argument that White had a better year in terms of positively impacting the game.  Is it correct?  Debatable.  Defensible?  Yes.  White was 1st team All-Defense, it is not like he did not have a really good season, despite the shooting woes. 

Did they both stink in the playoffs? Yes.

I find it hard to put a value on D White when his shooting is so bad. I see the case when he is shooting the ball.

I see the case for him still being a positive contributor when he is shooting the ball badly. But a large positive? I don't know about that.

[Who]

[Windhorst] Even though Jaylen Brown was talking about himself for MVP, the Celtics did not feel like Jaylen had the best season on their team. They felt that Derrick White had a better season.

Huh??? D-White had a down year and struggled for stretches, especially when Tatum was out, and then proceeded to have an AWFUL Sixers series.

Yeah this front office has gone bananas. Stevens might just be the new Nico Harrison now.

Or it could very well be Bill Chisolm and ownership. Either way, it's a mess

I mean, the Celtics were 9.7 points per 100 better when D White played and 4.6 points worse than their season average when JB played.  Both were starters and played tons of minutes, so you can make a credible argument that White had a better year in terms of positively impacting the game.  Is it correct?  Debatable.  Defensible?  Yes.  White was 1st team All-Defense, it is not like he did not have a really good season, despite the shooting woes. 

Did they both stink in the playoffs? Yes.

I find it hard to put a value on D White when his shooting is so bad. I see the case when he is shooting the ball.

I see the case for him still being a positive contributor when he is shooting the ball badly. But a large positive? I don't know about that.

[SparzWizard]

[Windhorst] Even though Jaylen Brown was talking about himself for MVP, the Celtics did not feel like Jaylen had the best season on their team. They felt that Derrick White had a better season.

Huh??? D-White had a down year and struggled for stretches, especially when Tatum was out, and then proceeded to have an AWFUL Sixers series.

Yeah this front office has gone bananas. Stevens might just be the new Nico Harrison now.

Or it could very well be Bill Chisolm and ownership. Either way, it's a mess

I mean, the Celtics were 9.7 points per 100 better when D White played and 4.6 points worse than their season average when JB played.  Both were starters and played tons of minutes, so you can make a credible argument that White had a better year in terms of positively impacting the game.  Is it correct?  Debatable.  Defensible?  Yes.  White was 1st team All-Defense, it is not like he did not have a really good season, despite the shooting woes. 

Did they both stink in the playoffs? Yes.

So it's about the analytics huh. Brad is an analytics guy.

To hell with analytics. Throw it in the trash. It's about what's on the floor and feeling the momentum. I didn't see it from White.

[Goldstar88]

The Boston Celtics never seriously considered trading Jayson Tatum despite recent inquiries from rival teams, according to ESPN's Shams Charania. Boston instead determined weeks ago that it needed to move on from Jaylen Brown, ultimately sending him to the Philadelphia 76ers for Paul George and two future first round picks.

"Whether it was personal situations between the two players or whether it was just the on-court basketball fit, the Celtics had just made the determination that, moving forward, they can no longer win a championship, clearly, with Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum," said Charania on Thursday's episode of Get Up. "The Celtics received calls on Jayson Tatum over the last couple of weeks. They shut those down completely, from my understanding. But when it came to Jaylen Brown, they were open to listening, and they have been for quite some time now."
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[Jiri Welsch]

Apparently Hugo looked good playing for Spain.

https://x.com/NIKNBAYT/status/2072757067387908228

[Neurotic Guy]

Apparently Hugo looked good playing for Spain.

https://x.com/NIKNBAYT/status/2072757067387908228

Grasping here, but what if Hugo adds a reliable shot to his game this year.  Having no JB opens that door and though it seems to soon for it to happen but maybe Hugo takes a bigger leap than anticipated. And simultaneously that explains Brads unwillingness to move him.

[Who]

Apparently Hugo looked good playing for Spain.

https://x.com/NIKNBAYT/status/2072757067387908228

Grasping here, but what if Hugo adds a reliable shot to his game this year.  Having no JB opens that door and though it seems to soon for it to happen but maybe Hugo takes a bigger leap than anticipated. And simultaneously that explains Brads unwillingness to move him.

The player Hugo reminded me the most from his 1st summer league game is Dan Majerle. He obviously didn't have Thunder Dan's jump-shot but Hugo had a similar physical profile & athleticism with a similar skill-set outside of the jump-shot. He had the man defense, the team defense, the hustle plays, the rebounding, the ball-handling, the passing. A similar mentality as well - as shown with the hustle plays, team orientated, well-rounded game. So Hugo a lot in common with Majerle. It was just the jump-shot - and that was gigantic gap between the two.

I still see Dan Majerle as the high end of expectations for Hugo. If he can add that jump-shot and then go from serviceable to average to an above average jump-shooter. Then he can climb to Majerle's level of play. An All-Star. One of the best glue guy / 3rd option wings in the NBA in the early to mid 90s at his peak.

Coincidently, that 16-5-5 stat line from that Spain game is a Majerle-esque stat line.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z-1xrfkB_s

The twitter video didn't play for me. Here is a youtube link if anyone else has the same issue. Tomasz Kordylewski Celtics youtube channel had Hugo's highlights as well. Some made 3s, some passes off of drives.

[Celtics2021]

Apparently Hugo looked good playing for Spain.

https://x.com/NIKNBAYT/status/2072757067387908228

Grasping here, but what if Hugo adds a reliable shot to his game this year.  Having no JB opens that door and though it seems to soon for it to happen but maybe Hugo takes a bigger leap than anticipated. And simultaneously that explains Brads unwillingness to move him.

Oh, I think if the roster stays as it is, Hugo starts.  Brad loves him.  He will make Joe love him over the summer.  He fits better with PG13 because Hugo and JB are both not great shooters, but I expect him to start no matter what.

[Phantom255x]

Jaylen's doing a Twitch stream at 8 PM. This should be good 

[ozgod]

Jaylen's doing a Twitch stream at 8 PM. This should be good 

Yes I'm watching and summarizing it here, but he does repeat and go in circles, I guess he has a list of topics he wants to go thru over and over again for people joining the stream.

https://forum.celticsstrong.com/index.php?topic=110097.0

[Goldstar88]

Noa Dalzell: Jaylen Brown on the Celtics trading him, on his stream: "I wasn't thrilled with the amount of respect that was shown during this process. There was a bit of a lack of respect. I think it was fine at one point, and then... things just kind of went left."
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