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« Reply #2100 on: Today at 03:06:11 PM »

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Hugo needs to hit the weight room hard,  He needs to work at adding strength but must balance this with not getting too much mass which would slow him down. 

The effort is there in terms of his play.   His three point shot needs work as well.

He's 19.  He'll fill out. Remember Tatum when we drafted him? The bulk will come.

Kid has a lot of potential.  Just work on that shot.

I agree with you.  Did you know it can be harmful to lift real heavy weights until your body is fully grown.    We had a ranger in the army who torn his pecs for this very reason.

He definitely showed that man strength is something he needs to work on though.

Who in the NBA is a good comp for Hugo (6'6" / 201lbs)? 

Christian Braun (6'6" / 220lbs) maybe?  Like Hugo, Braun is not known as a great shooter, but check out his highlights, lots of defense, running the floor, and flashing to the rim.

Hugo Highlights:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heB-jqYUOEM
Braun Highlights:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWtSInh4Zfk

Braun is a career 38%+ from 3pt. He?s a good shooter.

Right, I said he's not known as a "great" shooter.  38% is good, but not great.  What am I missing?

I mean, He was 40% from 3pt last year. That?s elite. Not a good comp for Hugo who can?t shoot at all. I?d say a very poor man?s Josh Giddey. Took Josh several years to figure out how to shoot, but he could pass and rebound at a high level. Hopeully Hugo can figure the shooting out otherwise it?s unlikely he makes it in the league.
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« Reply #2101 on: Today at 03:45:55 PM »

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I assume he'll be waived for purposes of sending him to Maine.


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« Reply #2102 on: Today at 04:25:20 PM »

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Hugo needs to hit the weight room hard,  He needs to work at adding strength but must balance this with not getting too much mass which would slow him down. 

The effort is there in terms of his play.   His three point shot needs work as well.

He's 19.  He'll fill out. Remember Tatum when we drafted him? The bulk will come.

Kid has a lot of potential.  Just work on that shot.

I agree with you.  Did you know it can be harmful to lift real heavy weights until your body is fully grown.    We had a ranger in the army who torn his pecs for this very reason.

He definitely showed that man strength is something he needs to work on though.

Who in the NBA is a good comp for Hugo (6'6" / 201lbs)? 

Christian Braun (6'6" / 220lbs) maybe?  Like Hugo, Braun is not known as a great shooter, but check out his highlights, lots of defense, running the floor, and flashing to the rim.

Hugo Highlights:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heB-jqYUOEM
Braun Highlights:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWtSInh4Zfk

Braun is a career 38%+ from 3pt. He?s a good shooter.

Right, I said he's not known as a "great" shooter.  38% is good, but not great.  What am I missing?

I mean, He was 40% from 3pt last year. That?s elite. Not a good comp for Hugo who can?t shoot at all. I?d say a very poor man?s Josh Giddey. Took Josh several years to figure out how to shoot, but he could pass and rebound at a high level. Hopeully Hugo can figure the shooting out otherwise it?s unlikely he makes it in the league.

I was literally quoting you, when you said "Braun is a career 38%+ from 3pt. He's a good shooter."

Which aligns with what I said "he's not known as a great shooter."

Now you're going from "good" to "elite." 

Either way, let's ignore Braun's shooting.  If you watch his highlight reel that I shared, he's shown as more of a defender, who runs in transition, and drives to the rim.  Very similar to Gonzalez right now, and they were close in size (both 6'6" and Braun was 205lbs in college).

Giddey seems to have much, much better handles than Braun.  Just a different kind of player.

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« Reply #2103 on: Today at 05:04:54 PM »

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Hugo needs to hit the weight room hard,  He needs to work at adding strength but must balance this with not getting too much mass which would slow him down. 

The effort is there in terms of his play.   His three point shot needs work as well.

He's 19.  He'll fill out. Remember Tatum when we drafted him? The bulk will come.

Kid has a lot of potential.  Just work on that shot.

I agree with you.  Did you know it can be harmful to lift real heavy weights until your body is fully grown.    We had a ranger in the army who torn his pecs for this very reason.

He definitely showed that man strength is something he needs to work on though.

Who in the NBA is a good comp for Hugo (6'6" / 201lbs)? 

Christian Braun (6'6" / 220lbs) maybe?  Like Hugo, Braun is not known as a great shooter, but check out his highlights, lots of defense, running the floor, and flashing to the rim.

Hugo Highlights:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heB-jqYUOEM
Braun Highlights:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWtSInh4Zfk

Braun is a career 38%+ from 3pt. He?s a good shooter.

Right, I said he's not known as a "great" shooter.  38% is good, but not great.  What am I missing?

I mean, He was 40% from 3pt last year. That?s elite. Not a good comp for Hugo who can?t shoot at all. I?d say a very poor man?s Josh Giddey. Took Josh several years to figure out how to shoot, but he could pass and rebound at a high level. Hopeully Hugo can figure the shooting out otherwise it?s unlikely he makes it in the league.

I was literally quoting you, when you said "Braun is a career 38%+ from 3pt. He's a good shooter."

Which aligns with what I said "he's not known as a great shooter."

Now you're going from "good" to "elite." 

Either way, let's ignore Braun's shooting.  If you watch his highlight reel that I shared, he's shown as more of a defender, who runs in transition, and drives to the rim.  Very similar to Gonzalez right now, and they were close in size (both 6'6" and Braun was 205lbs in college).

Giddey seems to have much, much better handles than Braun.  Just a different kind of player.

Braun has always been an above average shooter. He had a great season last year and was elite from 3pt. I don?t see how they are comparable when one can?t shoot at all and the other guy does it at a high level. They aren?t similar players, IMO.

I was saying that Hugo was a poor mans Giddey.
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« Reply #2104 on: Today at 05:10:28 PM »

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Hugo needs to hit the weight room hard,  He needs to work at adding strength but must balance this with not getting too much mass which would slow him down. 

The effort is there in terms of his play.   His three point shot needs work as well.

He's 19.  He'll fill out. Remember Tatum when we drafted him? The bulk will come.

Kid has a lot of potential.  Just work on that shot.

I agree with you.  Did you know it can be harmful to lift real heavy weights until your body is fully grown.    We had a ranger in the army who torn his pecs for this very reason.

He definitely showed that man strength is something he needs to work on though.

Who in the NBA is a good comp for Hugo (6'6" / 201lbs)? 

Christian Braun (6'6" / 220lbs) maybe?  Like Hugo, Braun is not known as a great shooter, but check out his highlights, lots of defense, running the floor, and flashing to the rim.

Hugo Highlights:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heB-jqYUOEM
Braun Highlights:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWtSInh4Zfk

Braun is a career 38%+ from 3pt. He?s a good shooter.

Right, I said he's not known as a "great" shooter.  38% is good, but not great.  What am I missing?

I mean, He was 40% from 3pt last year. That?s elite. Not a good comp for Hugo who can?t shoot at all. I?d say a very poor man?s Josh Giddey. Took Josh several years to figure out how to shoot, but he could pass and rebound at a high level. Hopeully Hugo can figure the shooting out otherwise it?s unlikely he makes it in the league.

I was literally quoting you, when you said "Braun is a career 38%+ from 3pt. He's a good shooter."

Which aligns with what I said "he's not known as a great shooter."

Now you're going from "good" to "elite." 

Either way, let's ignore Braun's shooting.  If you watch his highlight reel that I shared, he's shown as more of a defender, who runs in transition, and drives to the rim.  Very similar to Gonzalez right now, and they were close in size (both 6'6" and Braun was 205lbs in college).

Giddey seems to have much, much better handles than Braun.  Just a different kind of player.

Braun always has been a good shooter. He was elite last year. You can?t say a guy who can?t shoot at all is a comp to a guy that does it at a though level. They aren?t even similar players, IMO.

I was saying that Hugo was a poor mans Giddey. Not Braun.

Yeah, if you look at just shooting statistics between the two.  But basketball has a lot more facets than that, which I've listed above in comparing the two.  The first few clips in Braun's reel has him blocking shots, and Gonzalez has been noted as being an energetic, ferocious defender.

I explained why Giddey isn't a great comp, unless you literally want to boil things down to just shooting.  Which again, doesn't paint a complete picture of a player.


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« Reply #2105 on: Today at 05:19:59 PM »

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Hugo needs to hit the weight room hard,  He needs to work at adding strength but must balance this with not getting too much mass which would slow him down. 

The effort is there in terms of his play.   His three point shot needs work as well.

He's 19.  He'll fill out. Remember Tatum when we drafted him? The bulk will come.

Kid has a lot of potential.  Just work on that shot.

I agree with you.  Did you know it can be harmful to lift real heavy weights until your body is fully grown.    We had a ranger in the army who torn his pecs for this very reason.

He definitely showed that man strength is something he needs to work on though.

Who in the NBA is a good comp for Hugo (6'6" / 201lbs)? 

Christian Braun (6'6" / 220lbs) maybe?  Like Hugo, Braun is not known as a great shooter, but check out his highlights, lots of defense, running the floor, and flashing to the rim.

Hugo Highlights:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heB-jqYUOEM
Braun Highlights:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWtSInh4Zfk

Braun is a career 38%+ from 3pt. He?s a good shooter.

Right, I said he's not known as a "great" shooter.  38% is good, but not great.  What am I missing?

I mean, He was 40% from 3pt last year. That?s elite. Not a good comp for Hugo who can?t shoot at all. I?d say a very poor man?s Josh Giddey. Took Josh several years to figure out how to shoot, but he could pass and rebound at a high level. Hopeully Hugo can figure the shooting out otherwise it?s unlikely he makes it in the league.

I was literally quoting you, when you said "Braun is a career 38%+ from 3pt. He's a good shooter."

Which aligns with what I said "he's not known as a great shooter."

Now you're going from "good" to "elite." 

Either way, let's ignore Braun's shooting.  If you watch his highlight reel that I shared, he's shown as more of a defender, who runs in transition, and drives to the rim.  Very similar to Gonzalez right now, and they were close in size (both 6'6" and Braun was 205lbs in college).

Giddey seems to have much, much better handles than Braun.  Just a different kind of player.

Braun always has been a good shooter. He was elite last year. You can?t say a guy who can?t shoot at all is a comp to a guy that does it at a though level. They aren?t even similar players, IMO.

I was saying that Hugo was a poor mans Giddey. Not Braun.

Yeah, if you look at just shooting statistics between the two.  But basketball has a lot more facets than that, which I've listed above in comparing the two.  The first few clips in Braun's reel has him blocking shots, and Gonzalez has been noted as being an energetic, ferocious defender.

I explained why Giddey isn't a great comp, unless you literally want to boil things down to just shooting.  Which again, doesn't paint a complete picture of a player.

I do think Hugo could be a good defender like Braun, but that?s where the similarities end. I think Gonzalez has good instincts for passing and rebounding the ball, like Giddey. Josh also couldn?t shoot when he entered the league, like Hugo.  Gonzalez could turn into a point forward.

Braun does not pass the ball well. He does not handle the ball well and his rebounding is average.  Gonzalez has more in common with Giddey, but with better defensive upside.
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« Reply #2106 on: Today at 05:29:39 PM »

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At some point you have to blame the performance on the court on the players on the court. Every loss is not the coach's fault and every win isn't because of the players.

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« Reply #2107 on: Today at 06:20:46 PM »

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Hugo needs to hit the weight room hard,  He needs to work at adding strength but must balance this with not getting too much mass which would slow him down. 

The effort is there in terms of his play.   His three point shot needs work as well.

He's 19.  He'll fill out. Remember Tatum when we drafted him? The bulk will come.

Kid has a lot of potential.  Just work on that shot.

I agree with you.  Did you know it can be harmful to lift real heavy weights until your body is fully grown.    We had a ranger in the army who torn his pecs for this very reason.

He definitely showed that man strength is something he needs to work on though.

Who in the NBA is a good comp for Hugo (6'6" / 201lbs)? 

Christian Braun (6'6" / 220lbs) maybe?  Like Hugo, Braun is not known as a great shooter, but check out his highlights, lots of defense, running the floor, and flashing to the rim.

Hugo Highlights:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heB-jqYUOEM
Braun Highlights:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWtSInh4Zfk

Braun is a career 38%+ from 3pt. He?s a good shooter.

Right, I said he's not known as a "great" shooter.  38% is good, but not great.  What am I missing?

I mean, He was 40% from 3pt last year. That?s elite. Not a good comp for Hugo who can?t shoot at all. I?d say a very poor man?s Josh Giddey. Took Josh several years to figure out how to shoot, but he could pass and rebound at a high level. Hopeully Hugo can figure the shooting out otherwise it?s unlikely he makes it in the league.

I was literally quoting you, when you said "Braun is a career 38%+ from 3pt. He's a good shooter."

Which aligns with what I said "he's not known as a great shooter."

Now you're going from "good" to "elite." 

Either way, let's ignore Braun's shooting.  If you watch his highlight reel that I shared, he's shown as more of a defender, who runs in transition, and drives to the rim.  Very similar to Gonzalez right now, and they were close in size (both 6'6" and Braun was 205lbs in college).

Giddey seems to have much, much better handles than Braun.  Just a different kind of player.

Braun always has been a good shooter. He was elite last year. You can?t say a guy who can?t shoot at all is a comp to a guy that does it at a though level. They aren?t even similar players, IMO.

I was saying that Hugo was a poor mans Giddey. Not Braun.

Yeah, if you look at just shooting statistics between the two.  But basketball has a lot more facets than that, which I've listed above in comparing the two.  The first few clips in Braun's reel has him blocking shots, and Gonzalez has been noted as being an energetic, ferocious defender.

I explained why Giddey isn't a great comp, unless you literally want to boil things down to just shooting.  Which again, doesn't paint a complete picture of a player.

I do think Hugo could be a good defender like Braun, but that?s where the similarities end. I think Gonzalez has good instincts for passing and rebounding the ball, like Giddey. Josh also couldn?t shoot when he entered the league, like Hugo.  Gonzalez could turn into a point forward.

Braun does not pass the ball well. He does not handle the ball well and his rebounding is average.  Gonzalez has more in common with Giddey, but with better defensive upside.

Thank you for providing more context.  Let's just say, I'd be happy if he turned into either Giddey or Braun! 

A productive, competent, valuable player would be great for a pick that late in the 1st round.

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« Reply #2108 on: Today at 06:52:21 PM »

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Hugo needs to hit the weight room hard,  He needs to work at adding strength but must balance this with not getting too much mass which would slow him down. 

The effort is there in terms of his play.   His three point shot needs work as well.

He's 19.  He'll fill out. Remember Tatum when we drafted him? The bulk will come.

Kid has a lot of potential.  Just work on that shot.

I agree with you.  Did you know it can be harmful to lift real heavy weights until your body is fully grown.    We had a ranger in the army who torn his pecs for this very reason.

He definitely showed that man strength is something he needs to work on though.

Who in the NBA is a good comp for Hugo (6'6" / 201lbs)? 

Christian Braun (6'6" / 220lbs) maybe?  Like Hugo, Braun is not known as a great shooter, but check out his highlights, lots of defense, running the floor, and flashing to the rim.

Hugo Highlights:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heB-jqYUOEM
Braun Highlights:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWtSInh4Zfk

Braun is a career 38%+ from 3pt. He?s a good shooter.

Right, I said he's not known as a "great" shooter.  38% is good, but not great.  What am I missing?

I mean, He was 40% from 3pt last year. That?s elite. Not a good comp for Hugo who can?t shoot at all. I?d say a very poor man?s Josh Giddey. Took Josh several years to figure out how to shoot, but he could pass and rebound at a high level. Hopeully Hugo can figure the shooting out otherwise it?s unlikely he makes it in the league.

I was literally quoting you, when you said "Braun is a career 38%+ from 3pt. He's a good shooter."

Which aligns with what I said "he's not known as a great shooter."

Now you're going from "good" to "elite." 

Either way, let's ignore Braun's shooting.  If you watch his highlight reel that I shared, he's shown as more of a defender, who runs in transition, and drives to the rim.  Very similar to Gonzalez right now, and they were close in size (both 6'6" and Braun was 205lbs in college).

Giddey seems to have much, much better handles than Braun.  Just a different kind of player.

Braun always has been a good shooter. He was elite last year. You can?t say a guy who can?t shoot at all is a comp to a guy that does it at a though level. They aren?t even similar players, IMO.

I was saying that Hugo was a poor mans Giddey. Not Braun.

Yeah, if you look at just shooting statistics between the two.  But basketball has a lot more facets than that, which I've listed above in comparing the two.  The first few clips in Braun's reel has him blocking shots, and Gonzalez has been noted as being an energetic, ferocious defender.

I explained why Giddey isn't a great comp, unless you literally want to boil things down to just shooting.  Which again, doesn't paint a complete picture of a player.

I do think Hugo could be a good defender like Braun, but that?s where the similarities end. I think Gonzalez has good instincts for passing and rebounding the ball, like Giddey. Josh also couldn?t shoot when he entered the league, like Hugo.  Gonzalez could turn into a point forward.

Braun does not pass the ball well. He does not handle the ball well and his rebounding is average.  Gonzalez has more in common with Giddey, but with better defensive upside.

Thank you for providing more context.  Let's just say, I'd be happy if he turned into either Giddey or Braun! 

A productive, competent, valuable player would be great for a pick that late in the 1st round.

And just to be clear, I don?t expect Hugo to be as good as either of them. He?s very raw. I?m just hoping he makes it in the NBA.
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At some point you have to blame the performance on the court on the players on the court. Every loss is not the coach's fault and every win isn't because of the players.