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Re: Celtics Regular Season News
« Reply #315 on: February 07, 2024, 09:04:56 AM »

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“Utah’s starting small forward Simone Fontecchio has emerged as a serious trade target for two contending teams, according to multiple league sources: the Phoenix Suns and the Boston Celtics.”

https://twitter.com/Timi_093/status/1755155128347169138

He could be a fun guy to have on the wing, but I'm not sure we need more depth there?

I guess it guards against a Hauser injury, which fits into this:

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Adam Himmelsbach: Regarding Cs’ trade deadline situation, sources are saying it’d be a surprise if Cs don’t complete a deal, most likely for a player who can essentially serve as injury insurance. 6 hours ago – via Twitter AdamHimmelsbach

He’s a bigger wing (although maybe not much bigger than Hauser?), where there is a little shallower depth. He’s cheap tho.  The C’s could trade two of their minimums (plus picks, of course) for him and sign someone else with the empty roster spot created and wind up cutting salary.  He’s also a restricted free agent with a low qualifying offer (~$3.8 million) so the C’s could potentially keep him for an additional year or recoup some of the acquisition cost in a sign-and-trade.

I wasn’t impressed when we played the Jazz earlier this year, but I since watched them on a few League Pass games and think he could be a solid ninth man.  He should get more playing time than Muscala, for instance, if we got him.

These posts make sense - I don't really think of Hauser as a guy we would need to cover for if he missed significant time, but that's probably a mistake on my part.

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What about the starters? I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that Hauser moves up to being a starter in that case.

Maybe I am misunderstanding your point, Surferdad, but I would say that if we have a significant injury to one of our starters it would be very unlikely we could cover for them with anyone we could get at this price point.
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Re: Celtics Regular Season News
« Reply #316 on: February 07, 2024, 10:43:57 AM »

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Not gonna lie I completely forgot the trade deadline was TOMORROW. Wow it came fast.

Lonnie Walker, Nick Richards or Drummond would be my ideal pickup. Ideally 1 of the latter 2.

Drummond seems a lot more realistic and honestly makes sense. Just as a guy who in limited minutes can grab rebounds. Remember the recent Grizzlies game and even a lot of others? Felt like opposing teams just grabbed a lot of rebounds and got 2nd chance points. Horford/KP are great but not really at rebounding. I think someone like Drummond or Richards would be a bigger need as frontcourt depth, injury insurance and a way to give Horford/KP some rest in the 2nd half.

If they get a combo forward or someone like Walker though, I'd be fine with it. To me, PF/C still is the biggest need. I know many don't like Drummond but I wouldn't mind. You're not asking him to play heavy minutes, just about 8-12 minutes here or there in case of injury, foul trouble or fatigue. If they don't think Queta is "ready" yet then having Kornet/Drummond as the 3rd guy is fine. Drummond's actually had an awesome stretch over the past month too.
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Re: Celtics Regular Season News
« Reply #317 on: February 07, 2024, 10:50:38 AM »

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I would like to have Drummond. I am just concerned obviously about heath of KP and AL but also can we really count on Kornet and Queta in playoff time if it comes to that? I don't think so.

Also like Lonnie Walker. He would give the bench some serious improvement. Health is a concern.

Re: Celtics Regular Season News
« Reply #318 on: February 07, 2024, 11:10:14 AM »

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I would like to have Drummond. I am just concerned obviously about heath of KP and AL but also can we really count on Kornet and Queta in playoff time if it comes to that? I don't think so.

Also like Lonnie Walker. He would give the bench some serious improvement. Health is a concern.

Can we count on Drummond in that situation? He's just as bad as Kornet and Queta.

We need someone significantly better, though I'm not sure there's anyone available (and gettable) at this point
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Re: Celtics Regular Season News
« Reply #319 on: February 07, 2024, 12:26:59 PM »

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I would like to have Drummond. I am just concerned obviously about heath of KP and AL but also can we really count on Kornet and Queta in playoff time if it comes to that? I don't think so.

Also like Lonnie Walker. He would give the bench some serious improvement. Health is a concern.

Can we count on Drummond in that situation? He's just as bad as Kornet and Queta.

We need someone significantly better, though I'm not sure there's anyone available (and gettable) at this point

Chicago beat Minny going double big with Vuc and Drummond vs KAT and Gobert. Drummond finished the game with a 16/16 double double with 4 blocks in 35 minutes. He’s still just 30 years old too. He still has something left in the tank.

Re: Celtics Regular Season News
« Reply #320 on: February 07, 2024, 12:47:56 PM »

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“Utah’s starting small forward Simone Fontecchio has emerged as a serious trade target for two contending teams, according to multiple league sources: the Phoenix Suns and the Boston Celtics.”

https://twitter.com/Timi_093/status/1755155128347169138

He could be a fun guy to have on the wing, but I'm not sure we need more depth there?

I guess it guards against a Hauser injury, which fits into this:

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Adam Himmelsbach: Regarding Cs’ trade deadline situation, sources are saying it’d be a surprise if Cs don’t complete a deal, most likely for a player who can essentially serve as injury insurance. 6 hours ago – via Twitter AdamHimmelsbach

He’s a bigger wing (although maybe not much bigger than Hauser?), where there is a little shallower depth. He’s cheap tho.  The C’s could trade two of their minimums (plus picks, of course) for him and sign someone else with the empty roster spot created and wind up cutting salary.  He’s also a restricted free agent with a low qualifying offer (~$3.8 million) so the C’s could potentially keep him for an additional year or recoup some of the acquisition cost in a sign-and-trade.

I wasn’t impressed when we played the Jazz earlier this year, but I since watched them on a few League Pass games and think he could be a solid ninth man.  He should get more playing time than Muscala, for instance, if we got him.

These posts make sense - I don't really think of Hauser as a guy we would need to cover for if he missed significant time, but that's probably a mistake on my part.

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What about the starters? I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that Hauser moves up to being a starter in that case.

Maybe I am misunderstanding your point, Surferdad, but I would say that if we have a significant injury to one of our starters it would be very unlikely we could cover for them with anyone we could get at this price point.
It has always been the case that Joe inserts Horford in the starting lineup if one of the starters is out. My point is that I am not sure why we worry about an injury to Hauser specifically.

Re: Celtics Regular Season News
« Reply #321 on: February 07, 2024, 01:02:45 PM »

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I would like to have Drummond. I am just concerned obviously about heath of KP and AL but also can we really count on Kornet and Queta in playoff time if it comes to that? I don't think so.

Also like Lonnie Walker. He would give the bench some serious improvement. Health is a concern.

Can we count on Drummond in that situation? He's just as bad as Kornet and Queta.

We need someone significantly better, though I'm not sure there's anyone available (and gettable) at this point

Chicago beat Minny going double big with Vuc and Drummond vs KAT and Gobert. Drummond finished the game with a 16/16 double double with 4 blocks in 35 minutes. He’s still just 30 years old too. He still has something left in the tank.

Yeah, and also Drummond has already been averaging around 14 minutes a game. He's already in a similar role and I'd like to think a change of scenery and chance to make a deep playoff run can motivate him further.

That said, Brad Stevens does like to keep things tight-lipped and the fact that Olynyk, Drummond, and others have been mentioned a ton makes me think they'll get someone else we don't really talk about. Maybe that could even be Nick Richards who I like a lot as an option.
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Re: Celtics Regular Season News
« Reply #322 on: February 07, 2024, 01:05:28 PM »

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The Utah Jazz are trading Simone Fonteccio to the Detroit Pistons for a 2024 second-round pick, sources tell ESPN.

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« Reply #323 on: February 07, 2024, 01:07:48 PM »

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The Utah Jazz are trading Simone Fonteccio to the Detroit Pistons for a 2024 second-round pick, sources tell ESPN.

A single second?  That’s a bummer (although if Detroit holds their own 2nd, I guess that’s worth as much as our 1st).

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« Reply #324 on: February 07, 2024, 01:10:03 PM »

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The Utah Jazz are trading Simone Fonteccio to the Detroit Pistons for a 2024 second-round pick, sources tell ESPN.

A single second?  That’s a bummer (although if Detroit holds their own 2nd, I guess that’s worth as much as our 1st).

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« Reply #325 on: February 07, 2024, 01:12:56 PM »

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The Utah Jazz are trading Simone Fonteccio to the Detroit Pistons for a 2024 second-round pick, sources tell ESPN.

A single second?  That’s a bummer (although if Detroit holds their own 2nd, I guess that’s worth as much as our 1st).

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Yep, so pretty much guaranteed to be 31-34, so roughly equivalent to the C's first which will likely be 30th.

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« Reply #326 on: February 07, 2024, 01:12:58 PM »

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The Utah Jazz are trading Simone Fonteccio to the Detroit Pistons for a 2024 second-round pick, sources tell ESPN.

A single second?  That’s a bummer (although if Detroit holds their own 2nd, I guess that’s worth as much as our 1st).

it's washingtons 2cd and kevin knox

Screw Ainge the hater.  He hate's Boston and would never deal with the C's.  Lots of bad blood between Stevens and Ainge.

On a serious note.  Disappointing.  He would have been a good fit IMO.  Another Hauser.  That would have been a lethal 2nd unit with PP, Hauser and Fonteccio.

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« Reply #327 on: February 07, 2024, 01:16:18 PM »

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The Utah Jazz are trading Simone Fonteccio to the Detroit Pistons for a 2024 second-round pick, sources tell ESPN.

A single second?  That’s a bummer (although if Detroit holds their own 2nd, I guess that’s worth as much as our 1st).

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Yep, so pretty much guaranteed to be 31-34, so roughly equivalent to the C's first which will likely be 30th.

Yeah, that’s about at the upper-limit of what he should fetch.  Detroit makes no sense tho.

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« Reply #328 on: February 07, 2024, 01:26:50 PM »

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The Utah Jazz are trading Simone Fonteccio to the Detroit Pistons for a 2024 second-round pick, sources tell ESPN.

A single second?  That’s a bummer (although if Detroit holds their own 2nd, I guess that’s worth as much as our 1st).

it's washingtons 2cd and kevin knox

Yep, so pretty much guaranteed to be 31-34, so roughly equivalent to the C's first which will likely be 30th.

Yeah, that’s about at the upper-limit of what he should fetch.  Detroit makes no sense tho.

He's a 6'7 guy shooting 40% from three. If the goal in Detroit is "win more games so we don't set all-time loss record" I think he helps. But.... they shouldn't be spending assets just to win a few extra games. The Detroit front office is not smart.
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« Reply #329 on: February 07, 2024, 01:53:59 PM »

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The Utah Jazz are trading Simone Fonteccio to the Detroit Pistons for a 2024 second-round pick, sources tell ESPN.

A single second?  That’s a bummer (although if Detroit holds their own 2nd, I guess that’s worth as much as our 1st).

it's washingtons 2cd and kevin knox

Yep, so pretty much guaranteed to be 31-34, so roughly equivalent to the C's first which will likely be 30th.

Yeah, that’s about at the upper-limit of what he should fetch.  Detroit makes no sense tho.

He's a 6'7 guy shooting 40% from three. If the goal in Detroit is "win more games so we don't set all-time loss record" I think he helps. But.... they shouldn't be spending assets just to win a few extra games. The Detroit front office is not smart.

Correct.  The goal should be not challenging the record again in two years, to which this trade does probably nothing.