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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #1845 on: December 31, 2023, 11:46:13 AM »

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Do the Knicks see the OG trade as something that helps them win this season, or was it about securing a building block for the future?

I think they needed to move on from RJ. He was never going to live up to his draft day hopes, and OJ is better. This move doesn't push them over the edge, but Brunson + OG + Randle is a decent start to a good team.

No, this team isn't set up to win this year. They still need a move or two to compete with Boston.
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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #1846 on: December 31, 2023, 12:53:50 PM »

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Do the Knicks see the OG trade as something that helps them win this season, or was it about securing a building block for the future?

I think they needed to move on from RJ. He was never going to live up to his draft day hopes, and OJ is better. This move doesn't push them over the edge, but Brunson + OG + Randle is a decent start to a good team.

No, this team isn't set up to win this year. They still need a move or two to compete with Boston.
They are going to go hard after Mitchell I think. May not be the right move, but that seems to be what is being projected.  If they can get him and keep those 3, they will have something, but I'm not sure they can get him and keep those 3.
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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #1847 on: December 31, 2023, 01:01:16 PM »

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Do the Knicks see the OG trade as something that helps them win this season, or was it about securing a building block for the future?

I think they needed to move on from RJ. He was never going to live up to his draft day hopes, and OJ is better. This move doesn't push them over the edge, but Brunson + OG + Randle is a decent start to a good team.

No, this team isn't set up to win this year. They still need a move or two to compete with Boston.

What was the purpose of extending Barrett in the first place? It's not like he dropped off or something.
Now they lost a very good player in Quickley. Serious mismanagement.

For Mitchell I don't necessarily see the appeal playing alongside Brunson/Anunoby/Randle/Robinson(?) over Garland/Stuss/Mobley/Allen. The Cavs need some adjustments, but primarily patience.

Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #1848 on: December 31, 2023, 03:23:37 PM »

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Do the Knicks see the OG trade as something that helps them win this season, or was it about securing a building block for the future?

I think they needed to move on from RJ. He was never going to live up to his draft day hopes, and OJ is better. This move doesn't push them over the edge, but Brunson + OG + Randle is a decent start to a good team.

No, this team isn't set up to win this year. They still need a move or two to compete with Boston.

What was the purpose of extending Barrett in the first place? It's not like he dropped off or something.
Now they lost a very good player in Quickley. Serious mismanagement.

For Mitchell I don't necessarily see the appeal playing alongside Brunson/Anunoby/Randle/Robinson(?) over Garland/Stuss/Mobley/Allen. The Cavs need some adjustments, but primarily patience.

Mitchell is from NYC so all things being equal he would definitely pick New York over other places. However, it's not so easy in the NBA to get somewhere you want unless that team happens to have cap space (and you take a haircut). Whether or not the Knicks are still that interested him is questionable, since they clearly are aware of needing bigger players around Brunson. They also responded to questions about why they didn't deal for Mitchell a couple years ago by stating he wasn't big enough a game-changer to justify the price. That would suggest they're still not going to be a high bidder when the Cavs eventually are forced to deal him.

I don't know how he feels about this current Knicks squad, but the Cavs fit hasn't necessarily been perfect. Garland and Mitchell are a small backcourt and Garland isn't even as physical as Brunson is. Allen and Mobley both can't space the floor, but Mobley also can't play center full-time because of a lack of bulk. He hasn't developed offensively like people assumed he would, and that is holding the Cavs' ceiling back right now.

Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #1849 on: December 31, 2023, 06:38:54 PM »

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No Celtics vs Spurs thread?
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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #1850 on: December 31, 2023, 08:09:20 PM »

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Lakers getting hammered in New Orleans.


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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #1851 on: December 31, 2023, 08:24:48 PM »

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Goga Bitadze has turned into a really nice role player. Strong defensive player and rebounder. Outhustling Nurkic here to 4 off rebounds in Q1. Young legs vs old legs.

Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #1852 on: December 31, 2023, 09:22:23 PM »

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Lakers getting hammered in New Orleans.

Lakers don’t have enough talent. Our top 5 players are all better than their 3rd best and it isn’t particularly close.

Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #1853 on: December 31, 2023, 09:22:37 PM »

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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #1854 on: December 31, 2023, 09:52:35 PM »

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It is nice seeing Bradley Beal play well. He has had a rough start to the season.

Good game between Suns & Magic.

Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #1855 on: December 31, 2023, 10:05:24 PM »

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Franz Wagner plays a lot of one-on-one basketball and he isn't good enough at it. He doesn't have the quickness or trickery to blow past people so he ends up stalling out the offense while slowly works over his defender looking for a minor advantage. After he creates that minor advantage, he drives and usually takes a tough contested shot.

So he freezes out his teammates and then manages only to create a low to medium percentage shot attempt. That is not good basketball.

His team offense is good. He is better as a 15ppg 3rd/4th option guy than a 20ppg 2nd option guy. He is miscast in that Orlando role.

Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #1856 on: January 01, 2024, 02:02:12 AM »

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Lakers getting hammered in New Orleans.

Lakers don’t have enough talent. Our top 5 players are all better than their 3rd best and it isn’t particularly close.

Last season I was adamant that Kyrie was going to sign with the Lakers. After looking at their contract construction, I assumed it was a forgone conclusion because I thought no one could be that stupid to think the Lakers were contenders with that roster.

Obviously I was wrong, Jeanie Buss & Rob Pelinka are that stupid.
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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #1857 on: January 01, 2024, 06:15:00 AM »

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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #1858 on: January 01, 2024, 04:16:24 PM »

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Knicks defense looks a lot better with OG. They are up 61-49 over the T-Wolves at halftime. Game is on NBA TV for anyone interested.
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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #1859 on: January 01, 2024, 04:54:43 PM »

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Knicks defense looks a lot better with OG. They are up 61-49 over the T-Wolves at halftime. Game is on NBA TV for anyone interested.

OG looks like a real good fit now if the Knicks can get rid of Randle...