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Can Jrue get the C's an NBA Title
« on: October 04, 2023, 05:54:46 PM »

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 Just wanted to mention this is the first time we have an NBA championship on the Celtics who was the second best player on the team. Should really help. And everyone loves him.

 Jaylen said Jrue plays with a force about him that you can feel.

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« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2023, 05:57:22 PM »

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Can he "get" them one? No. He's like the 30-40th best player in the NBA. That guy doesn't "get" you a championship. If the Celtics get one or more it will be becasue of Tatum and/or Brown leveling up.

Holiday may help them level up on and off the court, but he's not going to be the main reaosn they win.

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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2023, 06:15:33 PM »

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Can he "get" them one? No. He's like the 30-40th best player in the NBA. That guy doesn't "get" you a championship. If the Celtics get one or more it will be becasue of Tatum and/or Brown leveling up.

Holiday may help them level up on and off the court, but he's not going to be the main reaosn they win.

 I think your seriously undervalued a top flight PG that has had championship experience.  He put the Bucks over the top.

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I think Porzingis & Holiday are excellent additions, in that we now have the most talented group in the NBA. We are less reliant on unreliable players
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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2023, 06:40:06 PM »

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I think Porzingis & Holiday are excellent additions, in that we now have the most talented group in the NBA. We are less reliant on unreliable players


 Well said. Holiday and Whit are the best defensive backcourt in the leauge with solid offense. Then add Tatum top 5 player in the league,  Brown top 25, and Porzingis who I equate to a Pau Gasol in his prime type addition.

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Yes.  He'll be a large part of the equation that finally gets this team over the top and winning the title this season, barring team injuries. 


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I think the biggest factor is still going to be whether Tatum has another level of efficiency he can reach and being able to score in the halfcourt consistently. Then the second biggest is whether Porzingis can stay healthy for an entire playoff series and physically hold up against guys like Adebayo, Embiid, Giannis, and Jokic.

That being said, there were definitely playoff games where I said to myself, if Marcus could hit the open three more regularly this game would be over. The defenses were always designed to tempt him to take the shot, and that will be a less effective strategy with Holiday there. I know Holiday has had his bad shooting games in the playoffs as well, but his catch-and-shoot numbers suggest he should be better in that spot.


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They were the most talented team in the East without Jrue Holiday.

They are the most talented team in the East with Jrue Holiday.

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They were the most talented team in the East without Jrue Holiday.

They are the most talented team in the East with Jrue Holiday.


 They might have been passed by the Bicks in the East, but were never more talented than the Nuggets.  Now they have an argument that they are more talented than the Nuggets.

 Doesn't mean they are better though.  Have to prove that

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When push comes to shove it usually comes down to your best player. Tatum needs to match a Giannis or whoever we are facing their best player, when it’s crunch time and it’s needed most.

It was great to hear Tatum spent 4 weeks with the Truth, Paul Pierce. Adding a little more craftiness and shiftiness to his game can go a long way.

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They were the most talented team in the East without Jrue Holiday.

They are the most talented team in the East with Jrue Holiday.
I think Milwaukee had edged us out with Dame alongside Giannis, Middleton & Lopez.
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It's not going to be just Jrue that will get us a title, it's going to have to be a team effort. They all have to be the best versions of themselves and hope they get lucky with injuries.
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It's not going to be just Jrue that will get us a title, it's going to have to be a team effort. They all have to be the best versions of themselves and hope they get lucky with injuries.
This is what I feel as well. One thing I have learned from watching over 40 years of NBA basketball. You Never Know what your gonna get!
Could Jrue be the difference? Maybe. Could this team just not gel together? Maybe. Could Jaylen and or Tatum ramp it up even more and be superstars? Maybe.
That is what is so fun, no one, not even posters on Celtics talk know for sure. We all will just have to wait and see.

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I think Porzingis & Holiday are excellent additions, in that we now have the most talented group in the NBA. We are less reliant on unreliable players

This. The combo of him and Porzingis being legit 3rd and 4th star options is huge and something we haven't had before. I keep saying it, but two of our biggest issues the last few years have been (a) non-Tatum minutes with just JB out there, and (b) the offense breaking down in crunch time.

Having two extra legit stars who can create their own offense will absolutely help with both of those factors, as we'll always have at least two of them on the floor at all times, including all four during crunch time.
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After the Dame trade, I put down money on the C’s to win the title.  After the Holiday trade, I doubled down.  While I don’t think Jrue is the player who will get us the title, because I thought we’d win before we got him, I feel even better about our chances with him.