2023-2024 NCAAF Official Thread

[tazzmaniac]

The other benefit of the 12-team playoff, at least you'll have more teams trying in the bowl games. Because make no mistake, all the teams not in the Top-4 will have guys sitting out or not trying hard as they look to stay healthy for the NFL Draft or just focus their prep for that. And I don't blame them either.

well I doubt McCord, Fleming, Pryor, and a whole bunch of Buckeye backups enter the portal before a playoff game like they did this year before the Cotron Bowl.

NCAA really needs to get some set rules on the portal. It is crazy.

THere are rules and they did just shorten the portal windows.  But with all the money available it is going to be crazy.  Don't know what they could feasibly due to prevent that. 

[Moranis]

The other benefit of the 12-team playoff, at least you'll have more teams trying in the bowl games. Because make no mistake, all the teams not in the Top-4 will have guys sitting out or not trying hard as they look to stay healthy for the NFL Draft or just focus their prep for that. And I don't blame them either.

well I doubt McCord, Fleming, Pryor, and a whole bunch of Buckeye backups enter the portal before a playoff game like they did this year before the Cotron Bowl.

NCAA really needs to get some set rules on the portal. It is crazy.

THere are rules and they did just shorten the portal windows.  But with all the money available it is going to be crazy.  Don't know what they could feasibly due to prevent that.

make it after the playoffs are over

[Celtics2021]

The other benefit of the 12-team playoff, at least you'll have more teams trying in the bowl games. Because make no mistake, all the teams not in the Top-4 will have guys sitting out or not trying hard as they look to stay healthy for the NFL Draft or just focus their prep for that. And I don't blame them either.

well I doubt McCord, Fleming, Pryor, and a whole bunch of Buckeye backups enter the portal before a playoff game like they did this year before the Cotron Bowl.

NCAA really needs to get some set rules on the portal. It is crazy.

THere are rules and they did just shorten the portal windows.  But with all the money available it is going to be crazy.  Don't know what they could feasibly due to prevent that.

make it after the playoffs are over

Then kids couldn’t transfer until after the semester had started at most schools, which is a bad look because most kids aren’t transferring to get huge amounts of money nor are in the playoffs.

[Moranis]

The other benefit of the 12-team playoff, at least you'll have more teams trying in the bowl games. Because make no mistake, all the teams not in the Top-4 will have guys sitting out or not trying hard as they look to stay healthy for the NFL Draft or just focus their prep for that. And I don't blame them either.

well I doubt McCord, Fleming, Pryor, and a whole bunch of Buckeye backups enter the portal before a playoff game like they did this year before the Cotron Bowl.

NCAA really needs to get some set rules on the portal. It is crazy.

THere are rules and they did just shorten the portal windows.  But with all the money available it is going to be crazy.  Don't know what they could feasibly due to prevent that.

make it after the playoffs are over

Then kids couldn’t transfer until after the semester had started at most schools, which is a bad look because most kids aren’t transferring to get huge amounts of money nor are in the playoffs.

that is when the season ends.  It is a much better time than having this chaos before all the bowl games.

[Celtics2021]

The other benefit of the 12-team playoff, at least you'll have more teams trying in the bowl games. Because make no mistake, all the teams not in the Top-4 will have guys sitting out or not trying hard as they look to stay healthy for the NFL Draft or just focus their prep for that. And I don't blame them either.

well I doubt McCord, Fleming, Pryor, and a whole bunch of Buckeye backups enter the portal before a playoff game like they did this year before the Cotron Bowl.

NCAA really needs to get some set rules on the portal. It is crazy.

THere are rules and they did just shorten the portal windows.  But with all the money available it is going to be crazy.  Don't know what they could feasibly due to prevent that.

make it after the playoffs are over

Then kids couldn’t transfer until after the semester had started at most schools, which is a bad look because most kids aren’t transferring to get huge amounts of money nor are in the playoffs.

that is when the season ends.  It is a much better time than having this chaos before all the bowl games.

The season for most teams effectively ended last week. If kids going to bowl game exhibitions want to enter the portal before them, they should be allowed to do so.  If they don’t want to play in the bowl, that’s fine.  If they do want to play and their coach doesn’t want them to, that’s fine too.  And if they and their coach agree that playing makes sense, great.

For too long megalomaniac coaches abused their power over 18-22 year-olds, and I, for one, am glad it has swung the other way.

[tazzmaniac]

The other benefit of the 12-team playoff, at least you'll have more teams trying in the bowl games. Because make no mistake, all the teams not in the Top-4 will have guys sitting out or not trying hard as they look to stay healthy for the NFL Draft or just focus their prep for that. And I don't blame them either.

well I doubt McCord, Fleming, Pryor, and a whole bunch of Buckeye backups enter the portal before a playoff game like they did this year before the Cotron Bowl.

NCAA really needs to get some set rules on the portal. It is crazy.

THere are rules and they did just shorten the portal windows.  But with all the money available it is going to be crazy.  Don't know what they could feasibly due to prevent that.

make it after the playoffs are over

Then kids couldn’t transfer until after the semester had started at most schools, which is a bad look because most kids aren’t transferring to get huge amounts of money nor are in the playoffs.

that is when the season ends.  It is a much better time than having this chaos before all the bowl games.

The season for most teams effectively ended last week. If kids going to bowl game exhibitions want to enter the portal before them, they should be allowed to do so.  If they don’t want to play in the bowl, that’s fine.  If they do want to play and their coach doesn’t want them to, that’s fine too.  And if they and their coach agree that playing makes sense, great.

For too long megalomaniac coaches abused their power over 18-22 year-olds, and I, for one, am glad it has swung the other way.

I agree that delaying the portal opening would be a mistake.  Better to have the players who are leaving go to their new schools.  The players who are staying get the benefit of extra practices and game experience. 

There's been a bit of a power shift but Coaches still have the power.   Most of the players leaving are because their coaches show them the door.  Once a player enters the portal, they lose their scholarship.   About 4% of the players who entered the portal returned to their original school but that was because their coaches allowed them to do so. 

[celticsclay]

Kyle McCord transferring from Ohio State.  Won't be playing against Missou.

He isn’t that great. Osu will have a better quarterback next year most likely

He obviously isn't as good as Stroud, but a lot of Buckeye fans thought Stroud wasn't that good either and he seems to be having no problem dominating the NFL with one of the best rookie seasons ever from a QB.  So is it McCord or is it coaching? I mean McCord was a 4 or 5 star prospect (depending on scout service). Highly recruited. Has excellent offensive weapons (though the line isn't all that good).  Yet that was true of Stroud last year (with a better line and a WR that got drafted in the 1st) and he often didn't look that great for the Buckeyes either.

I'm really coming around to the idea that Day needs to go.  Can't beat Michigan and his play calling is not good. Harbaugh may have been right when he said that Day started on 3rd base and thought he hit a triple.

I don’t think Day is a great coach and think Ohio would probably improve with the right replacement. That being said I really reiterate I don’t think McCord is very good for Ohio state. I just didn’t have confidence he was going to make the big throws if they played a good opponent. I never felt like that with stroud. Will be interesting to see what he does at his new school and where he ends up.

[Moranis]

The other benefit of the 12-team playoff, at least you'll have more teams trying in the bowl games. Because make no mistake, all the teams not in the Top-4 will have guys sitting out or not trying hard as they look to stay healthy for the NFL Draft or just focus their prep for that. And I don't blame them either.

well I doubt McCord, Fleming, Pryor, and a whole bunch of Buckeye backups enter the portal before a playoff game like they did this year before the Cotron Bowl.

NCAA really needs to get some set rules on the portal. It is crazy.

THere are rules and they did just shorten the portal windows.  But with all the money available it is going to be crazy.  Don't know what they could feasibly due to prevent that.

make it after the playoffs are over

Then kids couldn’t transfer until after the semester had started at most schools, which is a bad look because most kids aren’t transferring to get huge amounts of money nor are in the playoffs.

that is when the season ends.  It is a much better time than having this chaos before all the bowl games.

The season for most teams effectively ended last week. If kids going to bowl game exhibitions want to enter the portal before them, they should be allowed to do so.  If they don’t want to play in the bowl, that’s fine.  If they do want to play and their coach doesn’t want them to, that’s fine too.  And if they and their coach agree that playing makes sense, great.

For too long megalomaniac coaches abused their power over 18-22 year-olds, and I, for one, am glad it has swung the other way.

it is about half the teams that are still playing

[Moranis]

 Day is rumored to be looking for a NFL job, which is contributing to so many Buckeyes entering the portal.

[Moranis]

Penix, Nixo, Daniels, and Harrison are the 4 Heisman finalists.

[green_bballers13]

My top 8 (not considering records). These are the best 8 teams on December 4th, which would make the best playoffs for millions to watch.

Bama
Georgia
Michigan
Texas
Washington
Ohio State
Oregon
FSU

I'm happy that there aren't two SEC teams in the tournament.

I think it's rich for FSU to try to argue that the ACC didn't stink this year, considering that they have wanted to leave the conference for that same reason.

[Moranis]

My top 8 (not considering records). These are the best 8 teams on December 4th, which would make the best playoffs for millions to watch.

Bama
Georgia
Michigan
Texas
Washington
Ohio State
Oregon
FSU

I'm happy that there aren't two SEC teams in the tournament.

I think it's rich for FSU to try to argue that the ACC didn't stink this year, considering that they have wanted to leave the conference for that same reason.

FSU wants to leave for money, no other reason.  ACC was 6-4 against the SEC this year, including 2-0 from FSU. 

[green_bballers13]

My top 8 (not considering records). These are the best 8 teams on December 4th, which would make the best playoffs for millions to watch.

Bama
Georgia
Michigan
Texas
Washington
Ohio State
Oregon
FSU

I'm happy that there aren't two SEC teams in the tournament.

I think it's rich for FSU to try to argue that the ACC didn't stink this year, considering that they have wanted to leave the conference for that same reason.

FSU wants to leave for money, no other reason.  ACC was 6-4 against the SEC this year, including 2-0 from FSU.

Keep going with that thought. Why would FSU get more money elsewhere if the ACC was a superior conference?

I'd argue that we're heading to one or two super conferences. In that scenario, FSU is still the 8th best team in 2023.

[Moranis]

My top 8 (not considering records). These are the best 8 teams on December 4th, which would make the best playoffs for millions to watch.

Bama
Georgia
Michigan
Texas
Washington
Ohio State
Oregon
FSU

I'm happy that there aren't two SEC teams in the tournament.

I think it's rich for FSU to try to argue that the ACC didn't stink this year, considering that they have wanted to leave the conference for that same reason.

FSU wants to leave for money, no other reason.  ACC was 6-4 against the SEC this year, including 2-0 from FSU.

Keep going with that thought. Why would FSU get more money elsewhere if the ACC was a superior conference?

I'd argue that we're heading to one or two super conferences. In that scenario, FSU is still the 8th best team in 2023.

First, not stinking and being superior aren't the same thing.  The simple reality is, the ACC on the field had better results than the SEC winning the head to head 6-4. And FSU was among the ACC teams finding great success against the SEC by crushing LSU at a neutral field and beating Florida in the swamp. 

Second, television markets matter a lot with TV dollars and the ACC only has a couple of the major markets (Miami, Atlanta, Boston) and the ACC teams in Atlanta and Boston aren't the better teams in the conference and don't bring in big views (and thereby dollars).  There is a reason they are adding teams in California and Texas in the next couple of years. They want to expand the television footprint to bring in more money.   

That is why the SEC added teams like A&M and Missou and the Big Ten added Rutgers and Maryland when none of them were huge draws.  They added important television markets for the conference (UT/OU to SEC and the Pac 12 schools to the B10 are different as they are big names and draws in their own right, plus add television markets).   

Third, with the SEC and Big Ten expanding, there is a thought that they are going to break off and do their own thing forming a super league separate from the NCAA. The teams not in those 2 conferences, will need to get into them if that happens because otherwise the money really dries up.  The sooner you get in, the more stable your spot and position is.

[green_bballers13]

My top 8 (not considering records). These are the best 8 teams on December 4th, which would make the best playoffs for millions to watch.

Bama
Georgia
Michigan
Texas
Washington
Ohio State
Oregon
FSU

I'm happy that there aren't two SEC teams in the tournament.

I think it's rich for FSU to try to argue that the ACC didn't stink this year, considering that they have wanted to leave the conference for that same reason.

FSU wants to leave for money, no other reason.  ACC was 6-4 against the SEC this year, including 2-0 from FSU.

Keep going with that thought. Why would FSU get more money elsewhere if the ACC was a superior conference?

I'd argue that we're heading to one or two super conferences. In that scenario, FSU is still the 8th best team in 2023.

First, not stinking and being superior aren't the same thing.  The simple reality is, the ACC on the field had better results than the SEC winning the head to head 6-4. And FSU was among the ACC teams finding great success against the SEC by crushing LSU at a neutral field and beating Florida in the swamp. 

FSU is definitely better than both LSU, the 5th best SEC team and Florida, a team with 7 losses. That's why I think FSU is the 8th best team in the country with a quality win over LSU, ranked 13th.

Those FSU wins don't compare to Bama's win over Georgia or Texas' win over Bama. Apples and oranges.