Patriots 2023 Season

[Phantom255x]

If you want to actually have some excitement to end the year, just play Malik Cunningham.

Even if it's a bunch of runs or wildcats, who cares. Zappe has been worse than Mac and it'll just be more of the same anyways. Even some Pats reporters have said that Zappe has basically been "the same" in practice as usual, which wasn't better than Mac to begin with so yeah...

At least see what you have with Cunningham. In this league, you do kind of need a mobile QB nowadays. Even Mahomes can actually scramble and make some plays with his legs. Burrow as well when healthy. Mac and Zappe simply can't do that, way too slow. And this upcoming draft, a majority of the top QB prospects can run too. It's the new trend.

[SparzWizard]

There are some ongoing arguments where you have to be saying to yourself - am I really still arguing about this?  Can’t you suffice it to say that the cumulative effect of all of the above from the 3-pass game to the rotating coordinators to the speculated poor relationship with BB, to the porous offensive lines and weak receiving corps, etc have led to a pretty shattered confidence and the need for Mac to rebuild his career elsewhere?   You can’t know for sure what impact every detail has had on Mac’s brain - but the bottom line is what it is and I don’t see anyone at this point disagreeing with that.

I agree totally with this bottom line that Mac has lost all confidence or mojo or whatever and is currently not mentally positioned to be an NFL QB.  There are lots of factors that have led to this but I put it mostly on Mac.  Saban even said recently that he had issues or questions about Mac's mental make up or mental toughness back at Alabama.  It was not always the case; there have been periods in his NFL career where he as looked good, but that is not the case right now.  His mind is not even close to where it needs to be to be an NFL QB.

I think Zappe's mindset or whatever is much better but unfortunately, I don't believe he has the overall talent to be an NFL starting QB.  We'll see over the next few games I guess.   I see no reason to play Mac any more this season.  I don't think it is going to fix him, if he can even be fixed, and at this point, I hate to say it, but who wants to win any games anyway?  Let's role out Zappe and Cunningham and see if by some miracle, one of them plays like an actual NFL QB, something to build on for next season.

Mac meanwhile should consult a sports psychologist in the off season (I say that with all seriousness), try to get his head back in the right place, and pick things up next season.  I doubt very much that this is the end of his NFL run.  There is still NFL talent there, we have all seen it along the way.  He will get more opportunity, in NE or elsewhere.

Still, I blame Belichick for bringing in Matt Patricia and Joe Judge and did not beef up the OLine that further led to Mac's deterioration.

Then again, Mac lacks the mental mindset. Both coach and QB to blame.

[Neurotic Guy]

There are some ongoing arguments where you have to be saying to yourself - am I really still arguing about this?  Can’t you suffice it to say that the cumulative effect of all of the above from the 3-pass game to the rotating coordinators to the speculated poor relationship with BB, to the porous offensive lines and weak receiving corps, etc have led to a pretty shattered confidence and the need for Mac to rebuild his career elsewhere?   You can’t know for sure what impact every detail has had on Mac’s brain - but the bottom line is what it is and I don’t see anyone at this point disagreeing with that.

I agree totally with this bottom line that Mac has lost all confidence or mojo or whatever and is currently not mentally positioned to be an NFL QB.  There are lots of factors that have led to this but I put it mostly on Mac.  Saban even said recently that he had issues or questions about Mac's mental make up or mental toughness back at Alabama.  It was not always the case; there have been periods in his NFL career where he as looked good, but that is not the case right now.  His mind is not even close to where it needs to be to be an NFL QB.

I think Zappe's mindset or whatever is much better but unfortunately, I don't believe he has the overall talent to be an NFL starting QB.  We'll see over the next few games I guess.   I see no reason to play Mac any more this season.  I don't think it is going to fix him, if he can even be fixed, and at this point, I hate to say it, but who wants to win any games anyway?  Let's role out Zappe and Cunningham and see if by some miracle, one of them plays like an actual NFL QB, something to build on for next season.

Mac meanwhile should consult a sports psychologist in the off season (I say that with all seriousness), try to get his head back in the right place, and pick things up next season.  I doubt very much that this is the end of his NFL run.  There is still NFL talent there, we have all seen it along the way.  He will get more opportunity, in NE or elsewhere.

Still, I blame Belichick for bringing in Matt Patricia and Joe Judge and did not beef up the OLine that further led to Mac's deterioration.

Then again, Mac lacks the mental mindset. Both coach and QB to blame.

if there is blame to BB for Mac, there has to be credit to BB for Tom. 

[ozgod]

If Zappe somehow pulls a win out I'm going to be really upset 

[Neurotic Guy]

If Zappe somehow pulls a win out I'm going to be really upset 

Sorry Bailey but a win is a loss today.

[Phantom255x]

If Zappe somehow pulls a win out I'm going to be really upset 

I don't think the QB will have anything to do with results today. It's raining all day today. Expect a ton of runs from both teams lol.

[SparzWizard]

If Zappe somehow pulls a win out I'm going to be really upset 

Bailey won't pull our a win. It would have to be the Chargers chargering.

[green_bballers13]

I think Zappe is better than Mac.

[A Future of Stevens]

How is the Chargers offense so terrible? They have top 10ish players at QB, RB, and receiver

[SparzWizard]

Punt fest game.

[Phantom255x]

How is the Chargers offense so terrible? They have top 10ish players at QB, RB, and receiver

Idk how that moronic head coach survived especially after blowing that 27-0 playoff game last year.

If Belichick actually went there, I think he could tighten that ship up and improve the defense too. They already have the QB and pieces on offense so he wouldn't have to worry much about that

[SparzWizard]

I see lotta empty seats in Gillette Stadium.

That's what happens when your record is 2-9 and Mac is benched and the management/roster is dysfunctional

[SparzWizard]

How is the Chargers offense so terrible? They have top 10ish players at QB, RB, and receiver

Idk how that moronic head coach survived especially after blowing that 27-0 playoff game last year.

If Belichick actually went there, I think he could tighten that ship up and improve the defense too. They already have the QB and pieces on offense so he wouldn't have to worry much about that

Oh Staley for sure gone this season. But agreed, why is he still on their sidelines after choking to the Jaguars. I felt that was the end point for him.

[green_bballers13]

How is the Chargers offense so terrible? They have top 10ish players at QB, RB, and receiver

Bad coach plus overrated QB. He was overrated at Oregon too.

[johnnygreen]

I just checked the score of the Pats game. I thought the Pats would have scored 21 by now, with the great Zappe throwing for at least 150 yards after the first quarter. It must be the rain.