Does Brad suck at free agency?

[Who]

I think there are minutes at the back up wing and power forward to be had.

Nobody should be afraid to compete with Sam Hauser. And if grant goes, there is a clear need off of the bench at the 4.

Agreed. I don't see any vet wing being afraid to come to Boston because of Sam Hauser. "oh, I won't get any minutes. Sam Hauser is there." Not a thing.

[PAOBoston]

Brad seems to think signing legit nba players for the bench will somehow disrupt things within the team.

Unfortunately if grant leaves the bench is mighty with guys who you can actually play.

Kornet, Banton, Brisset, Hauser and Walsh won’t even be looked at when the playoffs get here.

That leaves Rob, brogdan and absolutely no wings left to fill the void.

exactly. I'm not saying someone like Josh Richardson or Patrick beverly would necessarily see the floor much with our rotation. But They are NBA quality players who if you needed to could throw into a game or even a playoff game if you had to.

Banton/Brissett wont ever see the floor. nor should you trust them to. I hope Blake Griffin can come back. I think especially if Grant leaves he is a guy you can throw on the floor for 15 minutes a game or so.

Richardson and Beverly are going to be getting basically starter/6th man type minutes in both Miami and Philly. That wasn’t gonna happen in Boston. Both these guys signed contracts in the hope of getting a bigger payday next year. Best chance for that to happen is to go somewhere where you have no competition for your minutes.

[Who]

Our 3rd stringers so far this season are:

G: JD Davison
G: Jordan Walsh
F: Oshae Brisset
F: Dalano Banton
C: Luke Kornet

Who there do we trust in a playoff game? Do we trust any of those 5 guys in a playoff game?

Are there any third stringers out there who are meant to be trusted in a playoff game?  Who does GSW, Phoenix, Milwaukee, Philly, Denver have on their third string right now that can be trusted in a playoff game?

The Warriors just signed Cory Joseph. He can be trusted in a playoff game. He is the only 3rd stringer they have signed other than their two rookies who cannot be trusted (TJD, Podziemski). Be good for them if they can bring back Anthony Lamb. He could be trusted in a playoff game. 

Phoenix have Damion Lee who can be trusted. I don't know enough about C Metu but I doubt he can be trusted. The rest of their 3rd string slots have yet to be filled.

Milwaukee have yet to fill theirs. Still have to add a backup PG to round out their primary bench pieces before adding their 3rd stringers.

Philly are short 2-3 primary bench pieces. No 3rd stringers yet. They have only filled their primary backup guard spots so far. Lot of work left to do. 

Denver had a terrible bench last year. They only had 6 players they really trusted. Then used old man J Green and young & raw C Braun to mop up some minutes. And they've lost 2 of those 3 guys. Bruce Brown and Jeff Green. Their 3rd stringers suck. Their primary bench sucks without Bruce Brown. I have Z Nnaji, P Watson and Justin Holiday as their 3rd stringers. I do not trust any of them in a playoff game. Similar to us in Boston.

[BitterJim]

I think there are minutes at the back up wing and power forward to be had.

Nobody should be afraid to compete with Sam Hauser. And if grant goes, there is a clear need off of the bench at the 4.

Agreed. I don't see any vet wing being afraid to come to Boston because of Sam Hauser. "oh, I won't get any minutes. Sam Hauser is there." Not a thing.

Why join a team to compete with younger guys if you have other options where there are more minutes available and less competition? Hauser won't prevent us from signing guys, but him and the rest of our depth will prevent us from signing guys in the first couple of days.

It's one thing to think you can beat out Sam Hauser for minutes. It's another to pass on other teams that are no doubt interested just to have to earn your minutes over Hauser (and even then, how many minutes do we expect Hauser to get? 10 mpg, more with injuries? Even after you beat him out you still have to beat out guys at other positions to get more time)

[celticsclay]

We probably couldn’t have got him cause I think he clearly wanted to play with his brother, but would people have wanted robin lopez?

[Celtics4ever]

His hands are tied, I see us adding around the peripheral edges of the team.  We won't and don't cash to splurge on big free agents.  I think this is more about finance than anything.

[Who]

We probably couldn’t have got him cause I think he clearly wanted to play with his brother, but would people have wanted robin lopez?

Nope. We don't need a big slow center. I want a center wih mobility. I prefer to go after someone like Biyombo or JaMychal Green rather than a big slow 7+ footer.

I don't expect R Lopez to play much in Milwaukee. They do not need him to be a rotation regular there. They have that three man big man rotation of Giannis, B Lopez and B Portis. Good 3rd string type player for them though because B Lopez is their only big body center so R Lopez provides a valuable deep bench service.

[Roy H.]

His hands are tied, I see us adding around the peripheral edges of the team.  We won't and don't cash to splurge on big free agents.  I think this is more about finance than anything.

It's not, though, because there are a bunch of useful guys taking the minimum.

[Roy H.]

We probably couldn’t have got him cause I think he clearly wanted to play with his brother, but would people have wanted robin lopez?

Nope. We don't need a big slow center. I want a center wih mobility. I prefer to go after someone like Biyombo or JaMychal Green rather than a big slow 7+ footer.

I don't expect R Lopez to play much in Milwaukee. They do not need him to be a rotation regular there. They have that three man big man rotation of Giannis, B Lopez and B Portis. Good 3rd string type player for them though because B Lopez is their only big body center so R Lopez provides a valuable deep bench service.

Agreed.  We don't need Kornet either.

[liam]

His hands are tied, I see us adding around the peripheral edges of the team.  We won't and don't cash to splurge on big free agents.  I think this is more about finance than anything.

It's not, though, because there are a bunch of useful guys taking the minimum.

They have to choose to come here.

[Roy H.]

His hands are tied, I see us adding around the peripheral edges of the team.  We won't and don't cash to splurge on big free agents.  I think this is more about finance than anything.

It's not, though, because there are a bunch of useful guys taking the minimum.

They have to choose to come here.

They have to be offered a deal first.  Otherwise, it's odd that Danny Ainge could always attract free agents to Boston, but Brad can only sign dumpster dives who are fringe NBA players.

If free agents don't want to come here all of a sudden, then Brad needs to change his pitch.  But, I think it's just that he chooses to pursue docile crap players.  Heck, Danny Green reported that last year he wanted to sign in Boston, and Brad ghosted him.

And, I don't buy that Boston is a uniquely deep team, when we're likely to lose Grant Williams.  We couldn't get Torey Craig to sign here over Chicago to fill that potential void?

[stes]

He attracted Schroeder, Griffin and Gallinari in his two previous off-seasons. I’d argue that these are not scrubs. I wish we could get more bargain FAs, but I don’t think it has been as bad as portrayed. I rather wish Celtics used last years TPE and/or Gallo’s injury exception, because they might have contributed towards a ring.

[Roy H.]

He attracted Schroeder, Griffin and Gallinari in his two previous off-seasons. I’d argue that these are not scrubs. I wish we could get more bargain FAs, but I don’t think it has been as bad as portrayed. I rather wish Celtics used last years TPE and/or Gallo’s injury exception, because they might have contributed towards a ring.

Schroeder signed because we were the only decent playoff team with the MLE left that also had a rotation spot available at PG.

Attracting Blake Griffin late in the summer isn't a positive.

Gallo seemed like a good signing, but our competition was the Bulls.  We passed over better, cheaper fits like Bruce Brown, who ended up being much more useful.

The best part about the Schroeder and Gallo signings turned out to be their moveable contracts. 

[stes]

He attracted Schroeder, Griffin and Gallinari in his two previous off-seasons. I’d argue that these are not scrubs. I wish we could get more bargain FAs, but I don’t think it has been as bad as portrayed. I rather wish Celtics used last years TPE and/or Gallo’s injury exception, because they might have contributed towards a ring.

Schroeder signed because we were the only decent playoff team with the MLE left that also had a rotation spot available at PG.

Attracting Blake Griffin late in the summer isn't a positive.

Gallo seemed like a good signing, but our competition was the Bulls.  We passed over better, cheaper fits like Bruce Brown, who ended up being much more useful.

The best part about the Schroeder and Gallo signings turned out to be their moveable contracts.

Have all of the supposedly better vet signings in Ainge’s era that much better? Was Schröder a lower-profile signing than Marbury? Isn’t Griffin signing comparable to Shaq on last legs? Wasn’t Bruce Brown viewed as more of a prospect than a sure thing last year? Yeah, I’d love it, if we got Josh Richardson and others. But I don’t think this assessment is entirely fair.
Also, Ainge lost quite few Celtics to free agency (Ray, TA, Posey, Hayward, Horford, Kyrie), so I guess his magic didn’t work on the more familiar players.

[Celtics2021]

He attracted Schroeder, Griffin and Gallinari in his two previous off-seasons. I’d argue that these are not scrubs. I wish we could get more bargain FAs, but I don’t think it has been as bad as portrayed. I rather wish Celtics used last years TPE and/or Gallo’s injury exception, because they might have contributed towards a ring.

Schroeder signed because we were the only decent playoff team with the MLE left that also had a rotation spot available at PG.

Attracting Blake Griffin late in the summer isn't a positive.

Gallo seemed like a good signing, but our competition was the Bulls.  We passed over better, cheaper fits like Bruce Brown, who ended up being much more useful.

The best part about the Schroeder and Gallo signings turned out to be their moveable contracts.

Gallo was only a bad signing because he got hurt.  An offensive oriented power forward to spell Tatum or let him slide to the 3 was one of the teams biggest needs all year.  I’m a Bruce Brown fan, but healthy Gallo was the better fit for Boston.

We can create about $4.8 million of space for the MLE still.  This year‘s version of Schröder might be Kelly Oubre Jr.  Not my favorite player at all, but he might be better cast as an 8th man than a 6th man and work out.