NBA Off-Season News

[Moranis]

I feel like you'd have to expand the trade to include white and get back more players

Boston - Lillard, Little, K. Johnson, Hyland
LAC - Brogdon
Portland - White, Rob, Pritchard, Morris, Coffey, 28 LAC (lotto), 24 Bos, 24 GS, 26 Bos, 28 Bos

Seems like the best I could come up with.  Not sure why that would be better for the Blazers than a Herro centered trade from the Heat

[Birdman]

I feel like you'd have to expand the trade to include white and get back more players

Boston - Lillard, Little, K. Johnson, Hyland
LAC - Brogdon
Portland - White, Rob, Pritchard, Morris, Coffey, 28 LAC (lotto), 24 Bos, 24 GS, 26 Bos, 28 Bos

Seems like the best I could come up with.  Not sure why that would be better for the Blazers than a Herro centered trade from the Heat

Like it but lot to give up plus who gotta play point in case Lillard get hurt or foul trouble

[Atzar]

I feel like you'd have to expand the trade to include white and get back more players

Boston - Lillard, Little, K. Johnson, Hyland
LAC - Brogdon
Portland - White, Rob, Pritchard, Morris, Coffey, 28 LAC (lotto), 24 Bos, 24 GS, 26 Bos, 28 Bos

Seems like the best I could come up with.  Not sure why that would be better for the Blazers than a Herro centered trade from the Heat

You're trading White in the apparent hope that Keon Johnson is actually an NBA player and Bones Hyland is something more than a low-impact malcontent.  Why?  Out of salary cap concerns?  Because I can't think of an actual basketball reason. 

I don't believe that cleaning out our depth for Lillard is a positive move in the first place, but additionally trading a good guard for two bad ones is just self-destructive.  Lillard can't play all 48.  With Hyland and Keon behind him, he'd burn out by mid-January.  Hell, he might do that anyway.

[bdm860]

I don't believe that cleaning out our depth for Lillard is a positive move in the first place

Maybe it's all in my head, but so far this seems like the difference between Ainge and Stevens.

Ainge was all about home runs (and waiting for his pitch), while Stevens seemed more about hitting singles and getting on base, (and I wonder if this stems from Stevens' experience as a coach who thrived without superstars?).

If Ainge was still here, I think it would be more likely the team would swing for the fences on Lillard, but I would be shocked if Stevens gave up depth (and analytics darlings like White and Williams) on a Lillard trade.

[celticinorlando]

Just don't see it happening with Dame to Boston.

[Roy H.]

Just don't it happening with Dame to Boston.

Yeah, if that trade was going to be made, Boston would have had to push for it strongly at the beginning of the off-season, to allow some free agents to sign here.

[Moranis]

I feel like you'd have to expand the trade to include white and get back more players

Boston - Lillard, Little, K. Johnson, Hyland
LAC - Brogdon
Portland - White, Rob, Pritchard, Morris, Coffey, 28 LAC (lotto), 24 Bos, 24 GS, 26 Bos, 28 Bos

Seems like the best I could come up with.  Not sure why that would be better for the Blazers than a Herro centered trade from the Heat

You're trading White in the apparent hope that Keon Johnson is actually an NBA player and Bones Hyland is something more than a low-impact malcontent.  Why?  Out of salary cap concerns?  Because I can't think of an actual basketball reason. 

I don't believe that cleaning out our depth for Lillard is a positive move in the first place, but additionally trading a good guard for two bad ones is just self-destructive.  Lillard can't play all 48.  With Hyland and Keon behind him, he'd burn out by mid-January.  Hell, he might do that anyway.

Little, Johnson, and Hyland for White

[kraidstar]

I feel like you'd have to expand the trade to include white and get back more players

Boston - Lillard, Little, K. Johnson, Hyland
LAC - Brogdon
Portland - White, Rob, Pritchard, Morris, Coffey, 28 LAC (lotto), 24 Bos, 24 GS, 26 Bos, 28 Bos

Seems like the best I could come up with.  Not sure why that would be better for the Blazers than a Herro centered trade from the Heat

Well, it's far more basic value for the Blazers. I'm not high on Herro at all. If anything last year showed us that anyone can succeed in Spoelstra's system. IMO both White and Timelord are more impactful players when healthy. Though Herro does have youth. Not saying he's a scrub. But he's overrated and hasn't improved much.

But putting all that aside, the difference in draft picks is significant. We have 2 more than Miami, including that potentially valuable Golden State pick. They're a Curry injury away from being a bad team.

[kraidstar]

Just don't it happening with Dame to Boston.

Yeah, if that trade was going to be made, Boston would have had to push for it strongly at the beginning of the off-season, to allow some free agents to sign here.

Good point. With Dame we'd be short on depth and a top minimum salary destination.

[Atzar]

I feel like you'd have to expand the trade to include white and get back more players

Boston - Lillard, Little, K. Johnson, Hyland
LAC - Brogdon
Portland - White, Rob, Pritchard, Morris, Coffey, 28 LAC (lotto), 24 Bos, 24 GS, 26 Bos, 28 Bos

Seems like the best I could come up with.  Not sure why that would be better for the Blazers than a Herro centered trade from the Heat

You're trading White in the apparent hope that Keon Johnson is actually an NBA player and Bones Hyland is something more than a low-impact malcontent.  Why?  Out of salary cap concerns?  Because I can't think of an actual basketball reason. 

I don't believe that cleaning out our depth for Lillard is a positive move in the first place, but additionally trading a good guard for two bad ones is just self-destructive.  Lillard can't play all 48.  With Hyland and Keon behind him, he'd burn out by mid-January.  Hell, he might do that anyway.

Little, Johnson, and Hyland for White

My point stands.  Keon Johnson and Nassir Little are below replacement-level.  Bones is low-impact and comes with baggage.  How is trading a good player for three bad ones a positive move for the team? 

I can make a strong argument that Sam Hauser is the best bench player on the roster you've constructed.

[Moranis]

I feel like you'd have to expand the trade to include white and get back more players

Boston - Lillard, Little, K. Johnson, Hyland
LAC - Brogdon
Portland - White, Rob, Pritchard, Morris, Coffey, 28 LAC (lotto), 24 Bos, 24 GS, 26 Bos, 28 Bos

Seems like the best I could come up with.  Not sure why that would be better for the Blazers than a Herro centered trade from the Heat

You're trading White in the apparent hope that Keon Johnson is actually an NBA player and Bones Hyland is something more than a low-impact malcontent.  Why?  Out of salary cap concerns?  Because I can't think of an actual basketball reason. 

I don't believe that cleaning out our depth for Lillard is a positive move in the first place, but additionally trading a good guard for two bad ones is just self-destructive.  Lillard can't play all 48.  With Hyland and Keon behind him, he'd burn out by mid-January.  Hell, he might do that anyway.

Little, Johnson, and Hyland for White

My point stands.  Keon Johnson and Nassir Little are below replacement-level.  Bones is low-impact and comes with baggage.  How is trading a good player for three bad ones a positive move for the team? 

I can make a strong argument that Sam Hauser is the best bench player on the roster you've constructed.

I don't think Portland would do the trade anyway that was an illustration as to why Boston just doesn't make sense as a trade partner once Brown was extended.

But I'd absolutely consider that sort of trade if it was available.  As Lillard, Brown, Tatum, Zinger, Horford is the best starting 5 in the league and if they were healthy come playoff time they could easily do what Denver just did and win the title with a thin bench. I'd feel ok enough with Hyland, Little, Hauser, Brisset, Svi, and Kornet as the main bench with flyers on Johnson, Davison, and Walsh as long as the starters were healthy come playoff time.  We'd have a solid 3 year window to win as well as I don't think it would be a 1 and done type situation.

[Neurotic Guy]

I feel like you'd have to expand the trade to include white and get back more players

Boston - Lillard, Little, K. Johnson, Hyland
LAC - Brogdon
Portland - White, Rob, Pritchard, Morris, Coffey, 28 LAC (lotto), 24 Bos, 24 GS, 26 Bos, 28 Bos

Seems like the best I could come up with.  Not sure why that would be better for the Blazers than a Herro centered trade from the Heat

You're trading White in the apparent hope that Keon Johnson is actually an NBA player and Bones Hyland is something more than a low-impact malcontent.  Why?  Out of salary cap concerns?  Because I can't think of an actual basketball reason. 

I don't believe that cleaning out our depth for Lillard is a positive move in the first place, but additionally trading a good guard for two bad ones is just self-destructive.  Lillard can't play all 48.  With Hyland and Keon behind him, he'd burn out by mid-January.  Hell, he might do that anyway.

Little, Johnson, and Hyland for White

My point stands.  Keon Johnson and Nassir Little are below replacement-level.  Bones is low-impact and comes with baggage.  How is trading a good player for three bad ones a positive move for the team? 

I can make a strong argument that Sam Hauser is the best bench player on the roster you've constructed.

I don't think Portland would do the trade anyway that was an illustration as to why Boston just doesn't make sense as a trade partner once Brown was extended.

But I'd absolutely consider that sort of trade if it was available.  As Lillard, Brown, Tatum, Zinger, Horford is the best starting 5 in the league and if they were healthy come playoff time they could easily do what Denver just did and win the title with a thin bench. I'd feel ok enough with Hyland, Little, Hauser, Brisset, Svi, and Kornet as the main bench with flyers on Johnson, Davison, and Walsh as long as the starters were healthy come playoff time.  We'd have a solid 3 year window to win as well as I don't think it would be a 1 and done type situation.

What I don't understand is that if that is the best starting 5 in the league, what is White, Brown, Tatum, Zinger, and Horford?  Not that Dame isn't on a different level than White, but the five with White might also be the best starting lineup in the league.  And it could be with Rob instead Horford, leaving Al, Brogdon, and PP on the bench.

Yeah, I'll go with that trade makes us worse. 

[Moranis]

I feel like you'd have to expand the trade to include white and get back more players

Boston - Lillard, Little, K. Johnson, Hyland
LAC - Brogdon
Portland - White, Rob, Pritchard, Morris, Coffey, 28 LAC (lotto), 24 Bos, 24 GS, 26 Bos, 28 Bos

Seems like the best I could come up with.  Not sure why that would be better for the Blazers than a Herro centered trade from the Heat

You're trading White in the apparent hope that Keon Johnson is actually an NBA player and Bones Hyland is something more than a low-impact malcontent.  Why?  Out of salary cap concerns?  Because I can't think of an actual basketball reason. 

I don't believe that cleaning out our depth for Lillard is a positive move in the first place, but additionally trading a good guard for two bad ones is just self-destructive.  Lillard can't play all 48.  With Hyland and Keon behind him, he'd burn out by mid-January.  Hell, he might do that anyway.

Little, Johnson, and Hyland for White

My point stands.  Keon Johnson and Nassir Little are below replacement-level.  Bones is low-impact and comes with baggage.  How is trading a good player for three bad ones a positive move for the team? 

I can make a strong argument that Sam Hauser is the best bench player on the roster you've constructed.

I don't think Portland would do the trade anyway that was an illustration as to why Boston just doesn't make sense as a trade partner once Brown was extended.

But I'd absolutely consider that sort of trade if it was available.  As Lillard, Brown, Tatum, Zinger, Horford is the best starting 5 in the league and if they were healthy come playoff time they could easily do what Denver just did and win the title with a thin bench. I'd feel ok enough with Hyland, Little, Hauser, Brisset, Svi, and Kornet as the main bench with flyers on Johnson, Davison, and Walsh as long as the starters were healthy come playoff time.  We'd have a solid 3 year window to win as well as I don't think it would be a 1 and done type situation.

What I don't understand is that if that is the best starting 5 in the league, what is White, Brown, Tatum, Zinger, and Horford?  Not that Dame isn't on a different level than White, but the five with White might also be the best starting lineup in the league.  And it could be with Rob instead Horford, leaving Al, Brogdon, and PP on the bench.

Yeah, I'll go with that trade makes us worse.

Lillard is significantly better than White and he is one of the best closers in the league.

[jpotter33]

I feel like you'd have to expand the trade to include white and get back more players

Boston - Lillard, Little, K. Johnson, Hyland
LAC - Brogdon
Portland - White, Rob, Pritchard, Morris, Coffey, 28 LAC (lotto), 24 Bos, 24 GS, 26 Bos, 28 Bos

Seems like the best I could come up with.  Not sure why that would be better for the Blazers than a Herro centered trade from the Heat

You're trading White in the apparent hope that Keon Johnson is actually an NBA player and Bones Hyland is something more than a low-impact malcontent.  Why?  Out of salary cap concerns?  Because I can't think of an actual basketball reason. 

I don't believe that cleaning out our depth for Lillard is a positive move in the first place, but additionally trading a good guard for two bad ones is just self-destructive.  Lillard can't play all 48.  With Hyland and Keon behind him, he'd burn out by mid-January.  Hell, he might do that anyway.

Little, Johnson, and Hyland for White

My point stands.  Keon Johnson and Nassir Little are below replacement-level.  Bones is low-impact and comes with baggage.  How is trading a good player for three bad ones a positive move for the team? 

I can make a strong argument that Sam Hauser is the best bench player on the roster you've constructed.

I don't think Portland would do the trade anyway that was an illustration as to why Boston just doesn't make sense as a trade partner once Brown was extended.

But I'd absolutely consider that sort of trade if it was available.  As Lillard, Brown, Tatum, Zinger, Horford is the best starting 5 in the league and if they were healthy come playoff time they could easily do what Denver just did and win the title with a thin bench. I'd feel ok enough with Hyland, Little, Hauser, Brisset, Svi, and Kornet as the main bench with flyers on Johnson, Davison, and Walsh as long as the starters were healthy come playoff time.  We'd have a solid 3 year window to win as well as I don't think it would be a 1 and done type situation.

What I don't understand is that if that is the best starting 5 in the league, what is White, Brown, Tatum, Zinger, and Horford?  Not that Dame isn't on a different level than White, but the five with White might also be the best starting lineup in the league.  And it could be with Rob instead Horford, leaving Al, Brogdon, and PP on the bench.

Yeah, I'll go with that trade makes us worse.

Lillard is significantly better than White and he is one of the best closers in the league.

While that is true, given the scoring prowess we already have in Tatum, JB, and Zinger, I'd much rather have White, Brogdon, and the remaining pieces than Lillard. I think White's defense plus the depth and other resources are more valuable than Lillard given what we already have. You don't need another high scoring guard when we have a 30 point scorer, 27 point scorer, and 20+ point scorer already; what you need is more high-level role players and defenders and quality depth.

[Moranis]

I feel like you'd have to expand the trade to include white and get back more players

Boston - Lillard, Little, K. Johnson, Hyland
LAC - Brogdon
Portland - White, Rob, Pritchard, Morris, Coffey, 28 LAC (lotto), 24 Bos, 24 GS, 26 Bos, 28 Bos

Seems like the best I could come up with.  Not sure why that would be better for the Blazers than a Herro centered trade from the Heat

You're trading White in the apparent hope that Keon Johnson is actually an NBA player and Bones Hyland is something more than a low-impact malcontent.  Why?  Out of salary cap concerns?  Because I can't think of an actual basketball reason. 

I don't believe that cleaning out our depth for Lillard is a positive move in the first place, but additionally trading a good guard for two bad ones is just self-destructive.  Lillard can't play all 48.  With Hyland and Keon behind him, he'd burn out by mid-January.  Hell, he might do that anyway.

Little, Johnson, and Hyland for White

My point stands.  Keon Johnson and Nassir Little are below replacement-level.  Bones is low-impact and comes with baggage.  How is trading a good player for three bad ones a positive move for the team? 

I can make a strong argument that Sam Hauser is the best bench player on the roster you've constructed.

I don't think Portland would do the trade anyway that was an illustration as to why Boston just doesn't make sense as a trade partner once Brown was extended.

But I'd absolutely consider that sort of trade if it was available.  As Lillard, Brown, Tatum, Zinger, Horford is the best starting 5 in the league and if they were healthy come playoff time they could easily do what Denver just did and win the title with a thin bench. I'd feel ok enough with Hyland, Little, Hauser, Brisset, Svi, and Kornet as the main bench with flyers on Johnson, Davison, and Walsh as long as the starters were healthy come playoff time.  We'd have a solid 3 year window to win as well as I don't think it would be a 1 and done type situation.

What I don't understand is that if that is the best starting 5 in the league, what is White, Brown, Tatum, Zinger, and Horford?  Not that Dame isn't on a different level than White, but the five with White might also be the best starting lineup in the league.  And it could be with Rob instead Horford, leaving Al, Brogdon, and PP on the bench.

Yeah, I'll go with that trade makes us worse.

Lillard is significantly better than White and he is one of the best closers in the league.

While that is true, given the scoring prowess we already have in Tatum, JB, and Zinger, I'd much rather have White, Brogdon, and the remaining pieces than Lillard. I think White's defense plus the depth and other resources are more valuable than Lillard given what we already have. You don't need another high scoring guard when we have a 30 point scorer, 27 point scorer, and 20+ point scorer already; what you need is more high-level role players and defenders and quality depth.

High level talent is always the most important thing you need to win and I'd rather elevate the 2nd best player to Lillard pushing Brown to 3rd and Zinger to 4th.  Boston would likely have the best 2nd, 3rd, and 4th best player against every team they played and it is really hard to lose a playoff series when that is the case even if you don't have the best player on the floor.  The depth is a thin, but again that is what Denver just went through with an 8 man playoff rotation.