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Re: 2023 NBA Trade Rumors & rumors FA signings
« Reply #270 on: June 29, 2023, 10:53:33 AM »

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One team with significant interest in signing Bruce Brown away from Denver is the Los Angeles Lakers, multiple sources told
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The Lakers could offer him the full MLE ($12.3M annually). Nuggets can only offer up to $7.8M this year.

How do they have the cap to keep Reaves, Hachimura, and go out to sign Bruce Brown while maintaining LeBron and Davis. Can't PBS jump in on this.

How? We only have the $5m TPMLE. That's just not a competitive offer for him.
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Re: 2023 NBA Trade Rumors & rumors FA signings
« Reply #271 on: June 29, 2023, 10:56:18 AM »

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One team with significant interest in signing Bruce Brown away from Denver is the Los Angeles Lakers, multiple sources told
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The Lakers could offer him the full MLE ($12.3M annually). Nuggets can only offer up to $7.8M this year.

How do they have the cap to keep Reaves, Hachimura, and go out to sign Bruce Brown while maintaining LeBron and Davis. Can't PBS jump in on this.

Getting off Westbrook contract enabled them to have non-tax payer status enabling them to make higher MLE offer.  Lakers will always be favorite destination of FAs all else being equal.  The new CBA can't legislate against that, unfortunately.

Re: 2023 NBA Trade Rumors & rumors FA signings
« Reply #272 on: June 29, 2023, 10:59:13 AM »

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One team with significant interest in signing Bruce Brown away from Denver is the Los Angeles Lakers, multiple sources told
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The Lakers could offer him the full MLE ($12.3M annually). Nuggets can only offer up to $7.8M this year.

How do they have the cap to keep Reaves, Hachimura, and go out to sign Bruce Brown while maintaining LeBron and Davis. Can't PBS jump in on this.
Restricted Bird rights on Hachimura, Restricted Early Bird rights on Reaves. They're very limited in the guys that they can sign from outside the team, though, as they more or less only have the MLE.
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Re: 2023 NBA Trade Rumors & rumors FA signings
« Reply #273 on: June 29, 2023, 11:08:02 AM »

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One team with significant interest in signing Bruce Brown away from Denver is the Los Angeles Lakers, multiple sources told
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The Lakers could offer him the full MLE ($12.3M annually). Nuggets can only offer up to $7.8M this year.

How do they have the cap to keep Reaves, Hachimura, and go out to sign Bruce Brown while maintaining LeBron and Davis. Can't PBS jump in on this.
Restricted Bird rights on Hachimura, Restricted Early Bird rights on Reaves. They're very limited in the guys that they can sign from outside the team, though, as they more or less only have the MLE.

It does depend a bit on the offers that those guys get in free agency, however, if they keep Russell with a large contract as is expected.  The first apron hard cap is still a thing that exists if you use the full MLE.  If there's a team that views Rui as an $18-20 million player, or maybe even $15 million, they'll still have to make choices.  Since unrestricted free agents normally come to deals before restricted free agents, the Lakers will have to be careful that they don't lock themselves into the hard cap with not enough room to match a Rui contract they'd otherwise wish to.

Re: 2023 NBA Trade Rumors & rumors FA signings
« Reply #274 on: June 29, 2023, 11:08:11 AM »

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Reportedly VanVleet and Brooks are likely signing with the Rockets?

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It has reached the point when I speak to various teams that it would be a legitimate leaguewide surprise now if Fred VanVleet and Dillon Brooks don’t strike verbal agreements to join the Houston Rockets by Friday night. VanVleet, as covered in this cyberspace Wednesday, is expected to receive a two-year offer from Houston worth a projected maximum of $83.6 million. Brooks has been regarded for days as an even likelier free agent to join the Rockets — also on a two-year deal in the $14-to-$16 million range annually — with Houston clearly confident that new coach Ime Udoka and his no-nonsense approach can bring the best out of the bear-poking former Memphis Grizzlies swingman. VanVleet’s would-be job in Space City? Help the Rockets, first and foremost, start changing their culture as a leader and example-setter for a young team. – via Marc Stein @ marcstein.substack.com

Weird how that can be determined before any team can discuss contract parameters, haha.


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Re: 2023 NBA Trade Rumors & rumors FA signings
« Reply #275 on: June 29, 2023, 11:09:38 AM »

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It has reached the point when I speak to various teams that it would be a legitimate leaguewide surprise now if Fred VanVleet and Dillon Brooks don’t strike verbal agreements to join the Houston Rockets by Friday night. VanVleet, as covered in this cyberspace Wednesday, is expected to receive a two-year offer from Houston worth a projected maximum of $83.6 million. Brooks has been regarded for days as an even likelier free agent to join the Rockets — also on a two-year deal in the $14-to-$16 million range annually — with Houston clearly confident that new coach Ime Udoka and his no-nonsense approach can bring the best out of the bear-poking former Memphis Grizzlies swingman. VanVleet’s would-be job in Space City? Help the Rockets, first and foremost, start changing their culture as a leader and example-setter for a young team. – via Marc Stein @ marcstein.substack.com

Weird how that can be determined before any team can discuss contract parameters, haha.

Wow, that is a lot of money for VanVleet and D Brooks. Both coming off underwhelming seasons.

So what, Houston wins 30 games next year instead of 20? What is the point in this?

Re: 2023 NBA Trade Rumors & rumors FA signings
« Reply #276 on: June 29, 2023, 11:13:05 AM »

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Reportedly VanVleet and Brooks are likely signing with the Rockets?

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It has reached the point when I speak to various teams that it would be a legitimate leaguewide surprise now if Fred VanVleet and Dillon Brooks don’t strike verbal agreements to join the Houston Rockets by Friday night. VanVleet, as covered in this cyberspace Wednesday, is expected to receive a two-year offer from Houston worth a projected maximum of $83.6 million. Brooks has been regarded for days as an even likelier free agent to join the Rockets — also on a two-year deal in the $14-to-$16 million range annually — with Houston clearly confident that new coach Ime Udoka and his no-nonsense approach can bring the best out of the bear-poking former Memphis Grizzlies swingman. VanVleet’s would-be job in Space City? Help the Rockets, first and foremost, start changing their culture as a leader and example-setter for a young team. – via Marc Stein @ marcstein.substack.com

Weird how that can be determined before any team can discuss contract parameters, haha.

Tampering schmampering.

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« Reply #277 on: June 29, 2023, 11:16:30 AM »

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Reportedly VanVleet and Brooks are likely signing with the Rockets?

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It has reached the point when I speak to various teams that it would be a legitimate leaguewide surprise now if Fred VanVleet and Dillon Brooks don’t strike verbal agreements to join the Houston Rockets by Friday night. VanVleet, as covered in this cyberspace Wednesday, is expected to receive a two-year offer from Houston worth a projected maximum of $83.6 million. Brooks has been regarded for days as an even likelier free agent to join the Rockets — also on a two-year deal in the $14-to-$16 million range annually — with Houston clearly confident that new coach Ime Udoka and his no-nonsense approach can bring the best out of the bear-poking former Memphis Grizzlies swingman. VanVleet’s would-be job in Space City? Help the Rockets, first and foremost, start changing their culture as a leader and example-setter for a young team. – via Marc Stein @ marcstein.substack.com

Weird how that can be determined before any team can discuss contract parameters, haha.

Wow, that is a lot of money for VanVleet and D Brooks. Both coming off underwhelming seasons.

So what, Houston wins 30 games next year instead of 20? What is the point in this?


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Re: 2023 NBA Trade Rumors & rumors FA signings
« Reply #278 on: June 29, 2023, 11:22:10 AM »

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Reportedly VanVleet and Brooks are likely signing with the Rockets?

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It has reached the point when I speak to various teams that it would be a legitimate leaguewide surprise now if Fred VanVleet and Dillon Brooks don’t strike verbal agreements to join the Houston Rockets by Friday night. VanVleet, as covered in this cyberspace Wednesday, is expected to receive a two-year offer from Houston worth a projected maximum of $83.6 million. Brooks has been regarded for days as an even likelier free agent to join the Rockets — also on a two-year deal in the $14-to-$16 million range annually — with Houston clearly confident that new coach Ime Udoka and his no-nonsense approach can bring the best out of the bear-poking former Memphis Grizzlies swingman. VanVleet’s would-be job in Space City? Help the Rockets, first and foremost, start changing their culture as a leader and example-setter for a young team. – via Marc Stein @ marcstein.substack.com

Weird how that can be determined before any team can discuss contract parameters, haha.

Tampering schmampering.

Yep.  The NBA will *maybe* pick one or two teams to investigate and will dock them a second rounder.  Everybody else will get away with it, because that's how business is done.  The league doesn't care about tampering at all.  In fact, I think they enjoy it, because it creates a free agency boom that network partners can plan programming around, etc.

I think that Milwaukee got uniquely screwed by losing BB in free agency.  It's probably good for us that they did.


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« Reply #279 on: June 29, 2023, 11:27:48 AM »

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Multiple rival teams have told me this week that they expect Dallas to come to terms early in free agency with former All-Star center Andre Drummond … provided Drummond, as expected, declines his $3.36 million player option with Chicago before his Thursday’s deadline to do so. – via Marc Stein @ marcstein.substack.com


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Re: 2023 NBA Trade Rumors & rumors FA signings
« Reply #280 on: June 29, 2023, 11:29:21 AM »

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I wouldn't go after VanVleet for a young team like the Rockets. He wants to be a star himself. He wants 15-20 FGs a night. He doesn't want to be a veteran guide. He wants to be The Man. He is not the right guide for young players.

This reminds me of those early Raptors team with Vince Carter and Tracy McGrady. They had great veterans who were happy to take a secondary role in the team. They had big guys who did the dirty work in Antonio Davis, Charles Oakley, Kevin Willis. They had lower usage perimeter vets like Muggsy Bogues, Dee Brown, Dell Curry. All guys who knew they were there to support the younger guys and were in a stage in their careers where they were happy to do that.

That is not Fred VanVleet. That is not Dillon Brooks. They are in the prime and think of themselves highly.

Lot of rumblins in Toronto about VanVleet having problems with other players in the squad. Tension with Trent Jr. Tension with Scottie Barnes. Tension with Siakam. Tensions over how many shots VanVleet was taking. Tensions over S Barnes not getting the ball enough. Tensions over VanVleet's defensive effort dropping off. Memphis got rid of Dillon Brooks in large part because they thought he was a bad example for Ja Morant (which I am not sold on but it is a regular talking point).

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« Reply #281 on: June 29, 2023, 11:30:06 AM »

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The Clippers are trying to find a trade for Norman Powell as they attempt to avoid the second apron, per @TheSteinLine. Powell (30) is under contract at $19M annually for the next three seasons. He averaged 17.0 PPG on 48/40/81 shooting splits last season.

Hmm...  Stuff like this makes me wonder, was the Brogdon trade killed not due to injury concerns, but financial ones?  If the Clippers are hellbent on getting under that apron, Brogdon wouldn't have helped them with that.


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« Reply #282 on: June 29, 2023, 11:31:50 AM »

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Multiple rival teams have told me this week that they expect Dallas to come to terms early in free agency with former All-Star center Andre Drummond … provided Drummond, as expected, declines his $3.36 million player option with Chicago before his Thursday’s deadline to do so. – via Marc Stein @ marcstein.substack.com

I don't like Drummond for Dallas. This is like the many over the hill veteran center free agents they have signed in the last decade. Like DeAndre Jordan. Won't make much of an impact.

Dallas fooling themselves ...

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« Reply #283 on: June 29, 2023, 11:37:30 AM »

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If we can’t get JRich, I’d welcome Javonte Green back with open arms for the vet minimum to help with backup wing minutes.
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« Reply #284 on: June 29, 2023, 11:39:34 AM »

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Green doesn’t really move the needle unless he’s going to actually be a rotation player this time around and not a human cigar