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Re: Celtics Off-Season News
« Reply #645 on: July 13, 2023, 03:10:31 PM »

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Re: Celtics Off-Season News
« Reply #646 on: July 13, 2023, 03:56:27 PM »

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https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2023/07/what-brad-stevens-is-still-looking-to-add-to-celtics-roster-this-offseason.html
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On further roster moves:

    “I think we’ll try to add obviously a little bit,” Stevens said. “I’d like to get a little more depth, maybe on the wing, and then also maybe with a 4/3 type. I feel pretty good about our bigs. We’ve got a couple two ways, so we’ve got some things we’re still very much looking at.”


On losing Smart as a PG:

“Tatum brings the ball up as much as anybody on our team,” Stevens said of the guard rotation. “So we kind of look at it as a positionless team. But Malcolm, Payton, Derrick, Tatum—those will be the guys that get us into offense. You saw tonight, JD is on the court but Banton got us into our offense most of the game. So we’re not really going to have that always designated like you would say, ‘that is a point guard, that is a 2 guard, that is a 3.’ But they’re all really capable. Jaylen as well. Those guys all bring the ball up the court.”

Stevens bringing up wing depth and a 4/3 type tells me he realizes the need for a Grant replacement and that Brissett isn't considered a sure thing for those backup 3/4 minutes.

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« Reply #647 on: July 13, 2023, 03:59:10 PM »

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https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2023/07/what-brad-stevens-is-still-looking-to-add-to-celtics-roster-this-offseason.html
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On further roster moves:

    “I think we’ll try to add obviously a little bit,” Stevens said. “I’d like to get a little more depth, maybe on the wing, and then also maybe with a 4/3 type. I feel pretty good about our bigs. We’ve got a couple two ways, so we’ve got some things we’re still very much looking at.”


On losing Smart as a PG:

“Tatum brings the ball up as much as anybody on our team,” Stevens said of the guard rotation. “So we kind of look at it as a positionless team. But Malcolm, Payton, Derrick, Tatum—those will be the guys that get us into offense. You saw tonight, JD is on the court but Banton got us into our offense most of the game. So we’re not really going to have that always designated like you would say, ‘that is a point guard, that is a 2 guard, that is a 3.’ But they’re all really capable. Jaylen as well. Those guys all bring the ball up the court.”

Stevens bringing up wing depth and a 4/3 type tells me he realizes the need for a Grant replacement and that Brissett isn't considered a sure thing for those backup 3/4 minutes.

Christian wood? Although he is a sieve defensively. Although I saw a pundit mention he could work on the Celtics because you can hide him next to rob williams

Re: Celtics Off-Season News
« Reply #648 on: July 13, 2023, 05:32:49 PM »

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https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2023/07/what-brad-stevens-is-still-looking-to-add-to-celtics-roster-this-offseason.html
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On further roster moves:

    “I think we’ll try to add obviously a little bit,” Stevens said. “I’d like to get a little more depth, maybe on the wing, and then also maybe with a 4/3 type. I feel pretty good about our bigs. We’ve got a couple two ways, so we’ve got some things we’re still very much looking at.”


On losing Smart as a PG:

“Tatum brings the ball up as much as anybody on our team,” Stevens said of the guard rotation. “So we kind of look at it as a positionless team. But Malcolm, Payton, Derrick, Tatum—those will be the guys that get us into offense. You saw tonight, JD is on the court but Banton got us into our offense most of the game. So we’re not really going to have that always designated like you would say, ‘that is a point guard, that is a 2 guard, that is a 3.’ But they’re all really capable. Jaylen as well. Those guys all bring the ball up the court.”

Stevens bringing up wing depth and a 4/3 type tells me he realizes the need for a Grant replacement and that Brissett isn't considered a sure thing for those backup 3/4 minutes.

Christian wood? Although he is a sieve defensively. Although I saw a pundit mention he could work on the Celtics because you can hide him next to rob williams

I feel like he's waiting on the Heat or Lakers. Since it's all the same money, it'd be about minutes and where he thinks he could reclaim some of his value.

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« Reply #649 on: July 13, 2023, 05:36:41 PM »

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On further roster moves:

    “I think we’ll try to add obviously a little bit,” Stevens said. “I’d like to get a little more depth, maybe on the wing, and then also maybe with a 4/3 type. I feel pretty good about our bigs. We’ve got a couple two ways, so we’ve got some things we’re still very much looking at.”


On losing Smart as a PG:

“Tatum brings the ball up as much as anybody on our team,” Stevens said of the guard rotation. “So we kind of look at it as a positionless team. But Malcolm, Payton, Derrick, Tatum—those will be the guys that get us into offense. You saw tonight, JD is on the court but Banton got us into our offense most of the game. So we’re not really going to have that always designated like you would say, ‘that is a point guard, that is a 2 guard, that is a 3.’ But they’re all really capable. Jaylen as well. Those guys all bring the ball up the court.”

Stevens bringing up wing depth and a 4/3 type tells me he realizes the need for a Grant replacement and that Brissett isn't considered a sure thing for those backup 3/4 minutes.

Christian wood? Although he is a sieve defensively. Although I saw a pundit mention he could work on the Celtics because you can hide him next to rob williams

I feel like he's waiting on the Heat or Lakers. Since it's all the same money, it'd be about minutes and where he thinks he could reclaim some of his value.

I do think thats the problem the celtics are going to have. offering minutes/playing time

If everyone is healthy its basically a 15minute a night role they are offering and maybe more minutes when Horford sits out back to backs and if(when) KP/Rob miss games. Heat/Lakers they may be able to start.

Re: Celtics Off-Season News
« Reply #650 on: July 13, 2023, 06:18:29 PM »

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https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2023/07/what-brad-stevens-is-still-looking-to-add-to-celtics-roster-this-offseason.html
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On further roster moves:

    “I think we’ll try to add obviously a little bit,” Stevens said. “I’d like to get a little more depth, maybe on the wing, and then also maybe with a 4/3 type. I feel pretty good about our bigs. We’ve got a couple two ways, so we’ve got some things we’re still very much looking at.”


On losing Smart as a PG:

“Tatum brings the ball up as much as anybody on our team,” Stevens said of the guard rotation. “So we kind of look at it as a positionless team. But Malcolm, Payton, Derrick, Tatum—those will be the guys that get us into offense. You saw tonight, JD is on the court but Banton got us into our offense most of the game. So we’re not really going to have that always designated like you would say, ‘that is a point guard, that is a 2 guard, that is a 3.’ But they’re all really capable. Jaylen as well. Those guys all bring the ball up the court.”

Stevens bringing up wing depth and a 4/3 type tells me he realizes the need for a Grant replacement and that Brissett isn't considered a sure thing for those backup 3/4 minutes.

Christian wood? Although he is a sieve defensively. Although I saw a pundit mention he could work on the Celtics because you can hide him next to rob williams

I feel like he's waiting on the Heat or Lakers. Since it's all the same money, it'd be about minutes and where he thinks he could reclaim some of his value.

I do think thats the problem the celtics are going to have. offering minutes/playing time

If everyone is healthy its basically a 15minute a night role they are offering and maybe more minutes when Horford sits out back to backs and if(when) KP/Rob miss games. Heat/Lakers they may be able to start.

As the presumptive favorites in the East why can't we get guys who are ring-chasing?

I mean, it's not like we're a middling team and a vet minimum guy would only look at us for minutes.

Dudes who just want to win a ring should be EAGER to hop on board.  I just don't get why guys do that for other teams, but not the Celtics as of late.  We had some of those guys in 2007-2010.

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« Reply #651 on: July 13, 2023, 06:21:03 PM »

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On further roster moves:

    “I think we’ll try to add obviously a little bit,” Stevens said. “I’d like to get a little more depth, maybe on the wing, and then also maybe with a 4/3 type. I feel pretty good about our bigs. We’ve got a couple two ways, so we’ve got some things we’re still very much looking at.”


On losing Smart as a PG:

“Tatum brings the ball up as much as anybody on our team,” Stevens said of the guard rotation. “So we kind of look at it as a positionless team. But Malcolm, Payton, Derrick, Tatum—those will be the guys that get us into offense. You saw tonight, JD is on the court but Banton got us into our offense most of the game. So we’re not really going to have that always designated like you would say, ‘that is a point guard, that is a 2 guard, that is a 3.’ But they’re all really capable. Jaylen as well. Those guys all bring the ball up the court.”

Stevens bringing up wing depth and a 4/3 type tells me he realizes the need for a Grant replacement and that Brissett isn't considered a sure thing for those backup 3/4 minutes.

Christian wood? Although he is a sieve defensively. Although I saw a pundit mention he could work on the Celtics because you can hide him next to rob williams

I feel like he's waiting on the Heat or Lakers. Since it's all the same money, it'd be about minutes and where he thinks he could reclaim some of his value.

I do think thats the problem the celtics are going to have. offering minutes/playing time

If everyone is healthy its basically a 15minute a night role they are offering and maybe more minutes when Horford sits out back to backs and if(when) KP/Rob miss games. Heat/Lakers they may be able to start.

As the presumptive favorites in the East why can't we get guys who are ring-chasing?

I mean, it's not like we're a middling team and a vet minimum guy would only look at us for minutes.

Dudes who just want to win a ring should be EAGER to hop on board.  I just don't get why guys do that for other teams, but not the Celtics as of late.  We had some of those guys in 2007-2010.

I’m not terribly sure Christian Wood is about winning.

Re: Celtics Off-Season News
« Reply #652 on: July 13, 2023, 06:26:44 PM »

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It’s crazy (imo) to think there wouldn’t be minutes for a guy who is a legit 7th/8th guy.  Celtics top 7 include 38 year old no back-to-back Horford. Glass Rob. 50-game Malcolm (expect 50 this year). And Porzingis.
I love the Cs roster, but they need some quality bench guys - and they will get minutes!

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« Reply #653 on: July 13, 2023, 06:35:12 PM »

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https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2023/07/what-brad-stevens-is-still-looking-to-add-to-celtics-roster-this-offseason.html
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On further roster moves:

    “I think we’ll try to add obviously a little bit,” Stevens said. “I’d like to get a little more depth, maybe on the wing, and then also maybe with a 4/3 type. I feel pretty good about our bigs. We’ve got a couple two ways, so we’ve got some things we’re still very much looking at.”


On losing Smart as a PG:

“Tatum brings the ball up as much as anybody on our team,” Stevens said of the guard rotation. “So we kind of look at it as a positionless team. But Malcolm, Payton, Derrick, Tatum—those will be the guys that get us into offense. You saw tonight, JD is on the court but Banton got us into our offense most of the game. So we’re not really going to have that always designated like you would say, ‘that is a point guard, that is a 2 guard, that is a 3.’ But they’re all really capable. Jaylen as well. Those guys all bring the ball up the court.”

Stevens bringing up wing depth and a 4/3 type tells me he realizes the need for a Grant replacement and that Brissett isn't considered a sure thing for those backup 3/4 minutes.

Christian wood? Although he is a sieve defensively. Although I saw a pundit mention he could work on the Celtics because you can hide him next to rob williams

I feel like he's waiting on the Heat or Lakers. Since it's all the same money, it'd be about minutes and where he thinks he could reclaim some of his value.

I’m not really getting this narrative that wood gets a ton of minutes on lakers. At the 4 and 5 depending on matchups they play lebron, vanderbilt and Davis sometimes even Rui. They also just signed Hayes. In the playoffs last year they basically never played bamba or Thompson. Why would wood all of a sudden play a ton?

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« Reply #654 on: July 13, 2023, 06:39:38 PM »

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It’s crazy (imo) to think there wouldn’t be minutes for a guy who is a legit 7th/8th guy.  Celtics top 7 include 38 year old no back-to-back Horford. Glass Rob. 50-game Malcolm (expect 50 this year). And Porzingis.
I love the Cs roster, but they need some quality bench guys - and they will get minutes!

I would be happy if we signed woods for a minimum but he isn’t a legit 7th guy. He has been on 8 teams in 7 seasons and his longest run was for a tanking Houston team at 2 seasons. He clearly has serious issues in the locker room and on defense.

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« Reply #655 on: July 13, 2023, 07:35:38 PM »

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I don’t get the minutes argument when you have Al on game restrictions, Rob who always gets hurt, brogdan who might miss a chunk of the regular season and guys like Sam Hauser, Brissett, PP to compete against.

There are minutes to be had.

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« Reply #656 on: July 13, 2023, 08:40:19 PM »

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Brad's quote specifically said we were all set with "bigs".  I think that eliminates Wood.



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« Reply #657 on: July 13, 2023, 09:14:53 PM »

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There were minutes for Grant. If the Celtics didn’t think so, they wouldn’t have offered the QO. This was about the contract not the minutes. They will find a 4 or a 3/4 who is good enough. Grant is not that hard to replace.

And the team was horrible when ever Grant played as the 3, with two other bigs, which wasn’t very often.

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« Reply #658 on: July 14, 2023, 12:12:14 AM »

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On further roster moves:

    “I think we’ll try to add obviously a little bit,” Stevens said. “I’d like to get a little more depth, maybe on the wing, and then also maybe with a 4/3 type. I feel pretty good about our bigs. We’ve got a couple two ways, so we’ve got some things we’re still very much looking at.”


On losing Smart as a PG:

“Tatum brings the ball up as much as anybody on our team,” Stevens said of the guard rotation. “So we kind of look at it as a positionless team. But Malcolm, Payton, Derrick, Tatum—those will be the guys that get us into offense. You saw tonight, JD is on the court but Banton got us into our offense most of the game. So we’re not really going to have that always designated like you would say, ‘that is a point guard, that is a 2 guard, that is a 3.’ But they’re all really capable. Jaylen as well. Those guys all bring the ball up the court.”

Stevens bringing up wing depth and a 4/3 type tells me he realizes the need for a Grant replacement and that Brissett isn't considered a sure thing for those backup 3/4 minutes.

Christian wood? Although he is a sieve defensively. Although I saw a pundit mention he could work on the Celtics because you can hide him next to rob williams

I feel like he's waiting on the Heat or Lakers. Since it's all the same money, it'd be about minutes and where he thinks he could reclaim some of his value.

I do think thats the problem the celtics are going to have. offering minutes/playing time

If everyone is healthy its basically a 15minute a night role they are offering and maybe more minutes when Horford sits out back to backs and if(when) KP/Rob miss games. Heat/Lakers they may be able to start.

As the presumptive favorites in the East why can't we get guys who are ring-chasing?

I mean, it's not like we're a middling team and a vet minimum guy would only look at us for minutes.

Dudes who just want to win a ring should be EAGER to hop on board.  I just don't get why guys do that for other teams, but not the Celtics as of late.  We had some of those guys in 2007-2010.
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« Reply #659 on: July 14, 2023, 05:12:30 AM »

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Brad says he wants a bit more depth, but isn't looking for a big or a point guard...he wants another wing. And he's still subscribing to his view that basketball is now positionless, so he's not thinking of players as point guards, shooting guards, small forwards, power forwards, and centers like those of us who grew up watching the game when those positions were clearly defined for players...he just looks at them as ball handlers, wings and bigs and one player can fill all three roles, either consecutively or concurrently if needed. Tatum can be a ball handler, a wing and also a big in small ball lineups for example.

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But as president of basketball operations Brad Stevens told reporters in Las Vegas on Wednesday night, the Celtics’ offseason is not yet over.

“I think we’ll try to add obviously a little bit,” Stevens said. “I’d like to get a little more depth, maybe on the wing, and then also maybe with a 4/3 type.”

Currently slotted at the wing behind stars Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown are sharpshooter Sam Hauser and defensive-minded rookie Jordan Walsh. While both players have shown promise and are very good at what they specialize in, they are both relatively unproven at the NBA level.

Stevens gave his vote of confidence to the Celtics’ other position groups, especially to their bigs. They added to their big man group of Robert Williams III and Al Horford this summer by acquiring free agent forward Oshae Brissett and trading for and extending one-time All-Star Kristaps Porzingis. Stevens feels confident in that group moving forward.

“I feel pretty good about our bigs,” Stevens said.

Another hard guy for the Celtics to lose was fan-favorite point guard Marcus Smart, who was traded in the deal that sent Porzingis to Boston. Even though the idea of Smart wearing a different team’s jersey will be difficult for Celtics fans, players, coaches, and executives to stomach, Stevens believes that many other players on the team are just as good at bringing the ball up the court.

“Malcolm [Brogdon], Payton [Pritchard], Derrick White, Tatum,” Stevens said, “those will be the guys that get us into offense.”

To Stevens, no one on this team has just one set position or role. Stevens views this Celtics team as positionless and does not want to limit the responsibility of initiating the offense to just the team’s point guards.

“We’re not really going to have that always designated like you would say, ‘that is a point guard, that is a two-guard, that is a three,’ Stevens said. “But they’re all really capable. Jaylen as well. Those guys all bring the ball up the court.”

https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2023/07/13/celtics-offseason-brad-stevens-future-moves-jaylen-brown-extension-latest-nba-free-agency-news-rumors/?p1=hp_featurestack

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