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If they are not getting stops, why where they not hacking Robinson.

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FIRE JOE

if brad is dumb enough to allow a fence post to be the coach fire him also. ENOUGH OF THIS GARBAGE. we are blowing our window.

the system is a joke. get a real coach with a proven offensive system
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They aren't changing the coach, and even if they do it's for a similar kind of clone. Brad Stevens and all the analytics in the department endorse this 3-point approach. Joe mostly just instills it on the sidelines and court.

And before anyone brings up Ime, those teams still shot a lot of 3s as well and had their own flaws on offense which at times got exposed especially to Miami and Golden State. Maybe Ime pushed back on the philosophy but it wasn't like BOS was not shooting 3s at a high rate either. And they've died by the 3 many times in recent years in the playoffs, even in the late 2010s (remember 2018 ECF Game 7)

You'll see tomorrow or next week. They'll say Mazzulla is staying.
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THEN FIRE BRAD

c ya
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THEN FIRE BRAD

c ya

Btw, the new owner's wife LOVES Mazzulla. Look it up online  :P :laugh:
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Joe has managed to lose two series now when he had the best player and the better team. Miami 23 Knicks 25. Tatum was the best player on the floor and the Celtics had more overall talent both times. Celtics were on their way to losing with Tatum down 3-1 so I don?t want to hear the excuse.
You have to be a pretty average coach to do what Joe did. Is this the best you can do at coach, Brad?

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Joe has managed to lose two series now when he had the best player and the better team. Miami 23 Knicks 25. Tatum was the best player on the floor and the Celtics had more overall talent both times. Celtics were on their way to losing with Tatum down 3-1 so I don?t want to hear the excuse.
You have to be a pretty average coach to do what Joe did. Is this the best you can do at coach, Brad?

Personally, I'd rather go after Malone or someone else.

But we're stuck with Mazzulla. The owner's wife loves him and so does Tatum, in fact JT is a big reason Mazzulla was named HC after the Ime incident.
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Joe has managed to lose two series now when he had the best player and the better team. Miami 23 Knicks 25. Tatum was the best player on the floor and the Celtics had more overall talent both times. Celtics were on their way to losing with Tatum down 3-1 so I don?t want to hear the excuse.
You have to be a pretty average coach to do what Joe did. Is this the best you can do at coach, Brad?

Personally, I'd rather go after Malone or someone else.

But we're stuck with Mazzulla. The owner's wife loves him and so does Tatum, in fact JT is a big reason Mazzulla was named HC after the Ime incident.


Well keeping Joe for next year will certainly help in any tanking if Brown suffers any injury. I mean the guy seems to have his team underachieve a lot so overachieving certainly isn?t going to happen.

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listening to what players want for a HC is crazy and usually backfires especially in college ball.

go hire the best out there. brad has not done that.

maybe we can go 0-82 and that will get joes butt canned.
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Here's what Joe said in his post game presser:

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On the Celtics? season coming to an end: ?I think you have to have a good perspective, at the end of the day we set a goal, and we didn?t achieve that goal. But, shouldn?t take away, for me, from the mindset and the effort the players put in. We have a responsibility and an ownership, but when you approach the process to it, you can?t take anything away from the guys and what they did. This is the price you pay for trying to go after something, and this is how it goes.?

On the emotion of the series: ?There wasn?t really much emotion; that?s just the way it goes. You can?t have an expectation that a series is supposed to go a certain way. Obviously, losing a player of that caliber to an injury is tough, but that?s part of it.?

On giving credit to the Knicks: ?To me, it?s not about our guys; they did everything they could. You have to tip your hat to the Knicks. ... I?m happy for [Tom Thibodeau]. He?s been coaching for a long time. For me, that?s the biggest thing, you pay your dues, and he deserves it.?

On the differences he saw between last year?s team and this one: ?I didn?t see anything different, I saw something better. I saw that our guys had the right mind-set and a goal and the right process toward going after it. Just ran into a great team in the second round and they got the best of us. But again, I just give credit to the guys for their mind-set and the process of going after something, and sometimes when you go after something, this is the price you pay.?

On the weight of coaching at this level: ?If you?re going to be in the arena ? first of all, if you?re coaching for along time, you?re going to have more heartbreaks than joyful moments, that?s just how it goes. When you step into the arena and you go after something, that?s just how it goes. It?s not feeling the weight of anything; most coaches, if you?re in the arena, you can?t expect it to go your way, can?t expect it to go the way you want. That?s the arena.?

On his experience coaching the Celtics: ?I told the guys in the locker room, it?s been the honor of my life to coach these guys. ... It?s an honor to share a locker room with them and be in the arena with them. To me, it just shows who they are as people and who they are as players, and that?s what it?s really all about.?

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2025/05/16/sports/celtics-knicks-live-score-game-6-news-injuries/
Any odd typos are because I suck at typing on an iPhone :D


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more word salad bee ess from him. can him now brad. he knows he is an abject failure
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Here's what Joe said in his post game presser:

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On the Celtics? season coming to an end: ?I think you have to have a good perspective, at the end of the day we set a goal, and we didn?t achieve that goal. But, shouldn?t take away, for me, from the mindset and the effort the players put in. We have a responsibility and an ownership, but when you approach the process to it, you can?t take anything away from the guys and what they did. This is the price you pay for trying to go after something, and this is how it goes.?

On the emotion of the series: ?There wasn?t really much emotion; that?s just the way it goes. You can?t have an expectation that a series is supposed to go a certain way. Obviously, losing a player of that caliber to an injury is tough, but that?s part of it.?

On giving credit to the Knicks: ?To me, it?s not about our guys; they did everything they could. You have to tip your hat to the Knicks. ... I?m happy for [Tom Thibodeau]. He?s been coaching for a long time. For me, that?s the biggest thing, you pay your dues, and he deserves it.?

On the differences he saw between last year?s team and this one: ?I didn?t see anything different, I saw something better. I saw that our guys had the right mind-set and a goal and the right process toward going after it. Just ran into a great team in the second round and they got the best of us. But again, I just give credit to the guys for their mind-set and the process of going after something, and sometimes when you go after something, this is the price you pay.?

On the weight of coaching at this level: ?If you?re going to be in the arena ? first of all, if you?re coaching for along time, you?re going to have more heartbreaks than joyful moments, that?s just how it goes. When you step into the arena and you go after something, that?s just how it goes. It?s not feeling the weight of anything; most coaches, if you?re in the arena, you can?t expect it to go your way, can?t expect it to go the way you want. That?s the arena.?

On his experience coaching the Celtics: ?I told the guys in the locker room, it?s been the honor of my life to coach these guys. ... It?s an honor to share a locker room with them and be in the arena with them. To me, it just shows who they are as people and who they are as players, and that?s what it?s really all about.?

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2025/05/16/sports/celtics-knicks-live-score-game-6-news-injuries/
On his coaching experience with the Celtics, that sure sounds like a lot of changes are coming and maybe even at the coaching level as well. Hmm..sounded like a big fat goodbye one way or the other.

I guess the new owner is going to dictate a lot as well. They did not spend 6 billion for the hell of it.

A step back though for one season while we reset and prepare for our next run with Tatum and cast, is definitely on the menu though.

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FIRE JOE

if brad is dumb enough to allow a fence post to be the coach fire him also. ENOUGH OF THIS GARBAGE. we are blowing our window.

the system is a joke. get a real coach with a proven offensive system

The window has been blown. This year is done, and Tatum's injury ensures that Boston won't be a title contender next season. He should be back the following season, hopefully with little to no diminishment, but we have little idea what the supporting cast will be?it's highly likely that Horford, Porzingis, and Holiday will be gone by then, which is a lot of talent and veteran leadership to have to replace. And the cap situation doesn't seem favorable to Boston for the next couple of seasons. So maybe another window will open in 2-3 seasons.

The biggest question mark in the near future, IMO, is the big-man situation. Al's nearing retirement, Zinger can't stay healthy, Kornet might be too expensive to retain (and isn't starter-level anyway), and Queta is a project.
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Here's what Joe said in his post game presser:

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On the Celtics? season coming to an end: ?I think you have to have a good perspective, at the end of the day we set a goal, and we didn?t achieve that goal. But, shouldn?t take away, for me, from the mindset and the effort the players put in. We have a responsibility and an ownership, but when you approach the process to it, you can?t take anything away from the guys and what they did. This is the price you pay for trying to go after something, and this is how it goes.?

On the emotion of the series: ?There wasn?t really much emotion; that?s just the way it goes. You can?t have an expectation that a series is supposed to go a certain way. Obviously, losing a player of that caliber to an injury is tough, but that?s part of it.?

On giving credit to the Knicks: ?To me, it?s not about our guys; they did everything they could. You have to tip your hat to the Knicks. ... I?m happy for [Tom Thibodeau]. He?s been coaching for a long time. For me, that?s the biggest thing, you pay your dues, and he deserves it.?

On the differences he saw between last year?s team and this one: ?I didn?t see anything different, I saw something better. I saw that our guys had the right mind-set and a goal and the right process toward going after it. Just ran into a great team in the second round and they got the best of us. But again, I just give credit to the guys for their mind-set and the process of going after something, and sometimes when you go after something, this is the price you pay.?

On the weight of coaching at this level: ?If you?re going to be in the arena ? first of all, if you?re coaching for along time, you?re going to have more heartbreaks than joyful moments, that?s just how it goes. When you step into the arena and you go after something, that?s just how it goes. It?s not feeling the weight of anything; most coaches, if you?re in the arena, you can?t expect it to go your way, can?t expect it to go the way you want. That?s the arena.?

On his experience coaching the Celtics: ?I told the guys in the locker room, it?s been the honor of my life to coach these guys. ... It?s an honor to share a locker room with them and be in the arena with them. To me, it just shows who they are as people and who they are as players, and that?s what it?s really all about.?

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2025/05/16/sports/celtics-knicks-live-score-game-6-news-injuries/

Nonsense from Joe. It was our team underperforming and not doing their jobs well enough that cost us the series against NY. They did not give "everything they could". It was not NY who beat us. It was us who crapped the bed and gave them the series.

We controlled our destiny. We were far and away the more talented team. That NY squad has been underperforming all season long relative to their talent and continued to underperform all throughout that series. We gave it away.
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Here's what Joe said in his post game presser:

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On the Celtics? season coming to an end: ?I think you have to have a good perspective, at the end of the day we set a goal, and we didn?t achieve that goal. But, shouldn?t take away, for me, from the mindset and the effort the players put in. We have a responsibility and an ownership, but when you approach the process to it, you can?t take anything away from the guys and what they did. This is the price you pay for trying to go after something, and this is how it goes.?

On the emotion of the series: ?There wasn?t really much emotion; that?s just the way it goes. You can?t have an expectation that a series is supposed to go a certain way. Obviously, losing a player of that caliber to an injury is tough, but that?s part of it.?

On giving credit to the Knicks: ?To me, it?s not about our guys; they did everything they could. You have to tip your hat to the Knicks. ... I?m happy for [Tom Thibodeau]. He?s been coaching for a long time. For me, that?s the biggest thing, you pay your dues, and he deserves it.?

On the differences he saw between last year?s team and this one: ?I didn?t see anything different, I saw something better. I saw that our guys had the right mind-set and a goal and the right process toward going after it. Just ran into a great team in the second round and they got the best of us. But again, I just give credit to the guys for their mind-set and the process of going after something, and sometimes when you go after something, this is the price you pay.?

On the weight of coaching at this level: ?If you?re going to be in the arena ? first of all, if you?re coaching for along time, you?re going to have more heartbreaks than joyful moments, that?s just how it goes. When you step into the arena and you go after something, that?s just how it goes. It?s not feeling the weight of anything; most coaches, if you?re in the arena, you can?t expect it to go your way, can?t expect it to go the way you want. That?s the arena.?

On his experience coaching the Celtics: ?I told the guys in the locker room, it?s been the honor of my life to coach these guys. ... It?s an honor to share a locker room with them and be in the arena with them. To me, it just shows who they are as people and who they are as players, and that?s what it?s really all about.?

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2025/05/16/sports/celtics-knicks-live-score-game-6-news-injuries/

Nonsense from Joe. It was our team underperforming and not doing their jobs well enough that cost us the series against NY. They did not give "everything they could". It was NY who beat us. It was us who crapped the bed and gave them the series.

We controlled our destiny. We were far and away the more talented team. That NY squad has been underperforming all season long relative to their talent and continued to underperform all throughout that series. We gave it away.

Yeah.  We blew leads of 22, 20 and 14 in the first three losses.  We were better, but the team played some unfocused and lazy basketball at times.


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