How much upside does Joe have?

[Goldstar88]

Knew it was loss , this thread heads to to top .

Psych!

[TheTruth34]

CJM at the end of his press conf - "No one wants to ask about the adjustments we made from game 1 to game 2?" Then he upped and left.  Mic drop moment

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

Knew it was loss , this thread heads to to top .

Psych!

LOL

[GreenEnvy]

CJM at the end of his press conf - "No one wants to ask about the adjustments we made from game 1 to game 2?" Then he upped and left.  Mic drop moment

The vitriol directed at him (especially here) was unwarranted. It was one game. And yes, I know Game 5 against Atlanta was bad. But they had double digit leads in both of those and this same group of players have done the same thing with THREE drastically different coaches.

[gouki88]

CJM at the end of his press conf - "No one wants to ask about the adjustments we made from game 1 to game 2?" Then he upped and left.  Mic drop moment

Probably because people expect an NBA coach to make in-game adjustments

[DefenseWinsChamps]

CJM at the end of his press conf - "No one wants to ask about the adjustments we made from game 1 to game 2?" Then he upped and left.  Mic drop moment

Good for him.

[GreenEnvy]

CJM at the end of his press conf - "No one wants to ask about the adjustments we made from game 1 to game 2?" Then he upped and left.  Mic drop moment

Probably because people expect an NBA coach to make in-game adjustments

That’s why they play series and not tournaments. He’s a rookie head coach. He’s learning. I know you want to crucify him, but he had his team respond every time they failed.

If you want to point to past failures (under Brad or Ime), that’s unfair to Joe. You can’t really get on him for Game 3 against Atlanta. You can’t demand a sweep. Game 5 was undoubtedly bad, but he had them close out Game 6 the right way.

They came out flat against a shorthanded, inferior team the other night. Tonight they wiped the floor with them in response.

[ozgod]

CJM at the end of his press conf - "No one wants to ask about the adjustments we made from game 1 to game 2?" Then he upped and left.  Mic drop moment

I just saw the post game interview, it was hilarious...kid's got some fire 

This is the exchange you were talking about.

https://youtube.com/shorts/SsA73Oa_E1Q?feature=share

Full presser is here (6min) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfnO0nbxaTM

[greg683x]

CJM at the end of his press conf - "No one wants to ask about the adjustments we made from game 1 to game 2?" Then he upped and left.  Mic drop moment

I just saw the post game interview, it was hilarious...kid's got some fire 

This is the exchange you were talking about.

https://youtube.com/shorts/SsA73Oa_E1Q?feature=share

Full presser is here (6min) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfnO0nbxaTM

We’ll we kinda already  knew what his adjustment was after his game 1 post game comments.

 Shoot more threes.   They did.  And they made a lot of them.  Philly didnt.  Unfortunately that’s just the NBA today.

Regardless of how good of a coach you think he is, I like seeing the media have to take a good cheap shot every now and then, so good for him

[Goldstar88]

CJM at the end of his press conf - "No one wants to ask about the adjustments we made from game 1 to game 2?" Then he upped and left.  Mic drop moment

I just saw the post game interview, it was hilarious...kid's got some fire 

This is the exchange you were talking about.

https://youtube.com/shorts/SsA73Oa_E1Q?feature=share

Full presser is here (6min) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfnO0nbxaTM

We’ll we kinda already  knew what his adjustment was after his game 1 post game comments.

 Shoot more threes.   They did.  And they made a lot of them.  Philly didnt.  Unfortunately that’s just the NBA today.

Regardless of how good of a coach you think he is, I like seeing the media have to take a good cheap shot every now and then, so good for him

They did shoot more threes, but only scored 2 more points than last game. I think the biggest adjustment was pretty clearly the defensive effort. Gave up 119pts in game 1 and only 87pts last night. This team 100% can play elite defense when they want to. Also took care of the ball much better yesterday, only turning it over 6 times, compared to 16 in the first game.

[angryguy77]

Playing Grant helped. The guys fighting through screens was probably the biggest reason they held them under a 100.

Whether he wants to admit it or not, the tweaks that he did make helped. Thing is, even with the lack of effort on Monday from the team, some of these couldn't been done and the game probably ends differently.

I'm still concerned he's going to attribute the 3's rather than the defensive effort for the win. Both helped, but if the defense isn't there in the first half, we would've been down.

[Roy H.]

I'm still concerned he's going to attribute the 3's rather than the defensive effort for the win. Both helped, but if the defense isn't there in the first half, we would've been down.

Agreed.  It's not rocket science, but Joe still doesn't get it.

Points allowed:

87 - win
99 - win
106 - win
119 - loss
119 - loss
120 - win
121 - win
130 - loss

Shockingly, there's a correlation between giving up a ton of points and losing.  We have a losing record when giving up 119+ points, and that's happened in 5 of the last 6 games. 

As for offense:

Game 1: .653 eFG%. 18 FTAs
Game 2: .576 eFG%, 16 FTAs

The shooting / efficiency was much better in Game 1.  The difference wasn't that we shot more threes, it was that we limited turnovers.

[Atzar]

I'm still concerned he's going to attribute the 3's rather than the defensive effort for the win. Both helped, but if the defense isn't there in the first half, we would've been down.

Agreed.  It's not rocket science, but Joe still doesn't get it.

Points allowed:

87 - win
99 - win
106 - win
119 - loss
119 - loss
120 - win
121 - win
130 - loss

Shockingly, there's a correlation between giving up a ton of points and losing.  We have a losing record when giving up 119+ points, and that's happened in 5 of the last 6 games. 

As for offense:

Game 1: .653 eFG%. 18 FTAs
Game 2: .576 eFG%, 16 FTAs

The shooting / efficiency was much better in Game 1.  The difference wasn't that we shot more threes, it was that we limited turnovers.

In fairness, our efficiency was so good in G1 because Embiid was out and we killed the Sixers at the rim, particularly in the first half.  That's not so easy when Embiid plays, but the flipside is that Philly leaves a lot of shooters open when he's on the court.  So we're going to see a lot more jumpshots for the rest of this series, I'd imagine.  Not as efficient as open layups, but it should still get the job done.

100% agree on the defense and the limiting turnovers though. 

[angryguy77]

I'm still concerned he's going to attribute the 3's rather than the defensive effort for the win. Both helped, but if the defense isn't there in the first half, we would've been down.

Agreed.  It's not rocket science, but Joe still doesn't get it.

Points allowed:

87 - win
99 - win
106 - win
119 - loss
119 - loss
120 - win
121 - win
130 - loss

Shockingly, there's a correlation between giving up a ton of points and losing.  We have a losing record when giving up 119+ points, and that's happened in 5 of the last 6 games. 

As for offense:

Game 1: .653 eFG%. 18 FTAs
Game 2: .576 eFG%, 16 FTAs

The shooting / efficiency was much better in Game 1.  The difference wasn't that we shot more threes, it was that we limited turnovers.

In fairness, our efficiency was so good in G1 because Embiid was out and we killed the Sixers at the rim, particularly in the first half.  That's not so easy when Embiid plays, but the flipside is that Philly leaves a lot of shooters open when he's on the court.  So we're going to see a lot more jumpshots for the rest of this series, I'd imagine.  Not as efficient as open layups, but it should still get the job done.

100% agree on the defense and the limiting turnovers though.

I can live with a high volume of 3's if the team plays solid defense and takes care of the ball. Fight through the screens, rebound and hustle. It is as simple as that for this team.

 

[Vermont Green]

CJM at the end of his press conf - "No one wants to ask about the adjustments we made from game 1 to game 2?" Then he upped and left.  Mic drop moment

I just saw the post game interview, it was hilarious...kid's got some fire 

This is the exchange you were talking about.

https://youtube.com/shorts/SsA73Oa_E1Q?feature=share

Full presser is here (6min) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfnO0nbxaTM

We’ll we kinda already  knew what his adjustment was after his game 1 post game comments.

 Shoot more threes.   They did.  And they made a lot of them.  Philly didnt.  Unfortunately that’s just the NBA today.

Regardless of how good of a coach you think he is, I like seeing the media have to take a good cheap shot every now and then, so good for him

They did shoot more threes, but only scored 2 more points than last game. I think the biggest adjustment was pretty clearly the defensive effort. Gave up 119pts in game 1 and only 87pts last night. This team 100% can play elite defense when they want to. Also took care of the ball much better yesterday, only turning it over 6 times, compared to 16 in the first game.

This is factual but I think an incomplete assessment of what the problems was and what the correction needed to be.  Yes, in the simplest form, it was take more 3s.  But the problem was forcing the ball to the hoop that led to turnovers.  We took more 3s but taking a 3 is far less likely to lead to a turnover than forcing it to the hoop.  The better way to say this is don't force the ball, take the 3 when it is there.

As to the defense, yes, it was better or at least more sustained but turnovers lead to easy buckets the other way in game 1.  So the whole force the ball, turn it over, give up an easy opportunity the other way, or even just an additional opportunity, that makes the defense look worse statistically. 

I guess around 50 3s is about where Joe wants the team to be.  That is fine, seems a little high to me actually but fine.  But what I don't like is the reckless drives to the hoop that end up as a turnover.  I care less about the quantity of drive opportunities vs. 3 point opportunities and more about the quality of those opportunities.  Drive to the hoop all game if it is a good quality opportunity that doesn't result in a turnover.