Kevin Durant: "Jayson tatum just received the worst tech..."

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

gary washburn @GwashburnGlobe
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The @NBA is rescinding Jayson Tatum’s technical foul from last night, the hand clap called by John Goble, according to an NBA source. #Celtics.
Beat Writer / Columnist

Problem is what happens when one of these horrible techs cost the C's the game.  They are not only momentum killing issues but 1 point could be the difference between the W or L.

The ref should get a fine for such a terrible call.

Rescinding techs is about as useful as the NBA's "last two minutes" reports—doesn't do any actual good in the games that were affected by the bad calls. The ONLY good this does for Tatum is it keeps his season total for techs from increasing.

[nickagneta]

gary washburn @GwashburnGlobe
8m
The @NBA is rescinding Jayson Tatum’s technical foul from last night, the hand clap called by John Goble, according to an NBA source. #Celtics.
Beat Writer / Columnist

Problem is what happens when one of these horrible techs cost the C's the game.  They are not only momentum killing issues but 1 point could be the difference between the W or L.

The ref should get a fine for such a terrible call.

Rescinding techs is about as useful as the NBA's "last two minutes" reports—doesn't do any actual good in the games that were affected by the bad calls. The ONLY good this does for Tatum is it keeps his season total for techs from increasing.

Yeah, but after 16 techs, you get a game suspension. And another game for every two after that. I think. I didn't look it up but remember reading about it a couple years ago regarding Draymond Green. Let me look it up.

Yup

Committing one technical foul does not automatically put a player on a suspension. Before getting suspended, a player receives a warning after committing ten technical fouls. A player with 16 unsportsmanlike technical fouls in regular games is suspended from playing one game. If a player commits his 17th technical foul will be fined $5000, and if a player commits another 2 technical fouls after being suspended will get his second suspension

[SparzWizard]

gary washburn @GwashburnGlobe
8m
The @NBA is rescinding Jayson Tatum’s technical foul from last night, the hand clap called by John Goble, according to an NBA source. #Celtics.
Beat Writer / Columnist

Problem is what happens when one of these horrible techs cost the C's the game.  They are not only momentum killing issues but 1 point could be the difference between the W or L.

The ref should get a fine for such a terrible call.

Rescinding techs is about as useful as the NBA's "last two minutes" reports—doesn't do any actual good in the games that were affected by the bad calls. The ONLY good this does for Tatum is it keeps his season total for techs from increasing.

Yeah, but after 16 techs, you get a game suspension. And another game for every two after that. I think. I didn't look it up but remember reading about it a couple years ago regarding Draymond Green. Let me look it up.

Yup

Committing one technical foul does not automatically put a player on a suspension. Before getting suspended, a player receives a warning after committing ten technical fouls. A player with 16 unsportsmanlike technical fouls in regular games is suspended from playing one game. If a player commits his 17th technical foul will be fined $5000, and if a player commits another 2 technical fouls after being suspended will get his second suspension

Our very own Kendrick Perkins had that issue back then in 2010...think he got suspended in like Game 5 against the Orlando Magic. We almost blew that 3-0 lead when they crept back to a 3-2 deficit.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

gary washburn @GwashburnGlobe
8m
The @NBA is rescinding Jayson Tatum’s technical foul from last night, the hand clap called by John Goble, according to an NBA source. #Celtics.
Beat Writer / Columnist

Problem is what happens when one of these horrible techs cost the C's the game.  They are not only momentum killing issues but 1 point could be the difference between the W or L.

The ref should get a fine for such a terrible call.

Rescinding techs is about as useful as the NBA's "last two minutes" reports—doesn't do any actual good in the games that were affected by the bad calls. The ONLY good this does for Tatum is it keeps his season total for techs from increasing.

Yeah, but after 16 techs, you get a game suspension. And another game for every two after that. I think. I didn't look it up but remember reading about it a couple years ago regarding Draymond Green. Let me look it up.

Yup

Committing one technical foul does not automatically put a player on a suspension. Before getting suspended, a player receives a warning after committing ten technical fouls. A player with 16 unsportsmanlike technical fouls in regular games is suspended from playing one game. If a player commits his 17th technical foul will be fined $5000, and if a player commits another 2 technical fouls after being suspended will get his second suspension

Yeah, that's why I said it's good that it keeps his total from increasing—we don't want him missing games. But it does no good for the game in which the T was called.

[No Nickname]

I will say JT has to stop Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.ing on every time he has contact made without a call.  I'm sure the refs are sick of that.  I also can't stand when he Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.es, dogs on the play and the other team scores because he doesn't get back.  This happen 3 to 5 times a game and it drives me nuts.  Sell the foul.  If it's not called get back on D.

While he definitely didn't deserve a T last night, you're totally right.

He's been such a complainer, for way too long, especially with that silly (yet dismissive) hand wave he's famous for after not getting a call.

The refs were totally thinking of that when he clapped.  It was just too similar to his constant whining and hand wave.

So while the refs are wrong here, JT contributed to this situation where he now has a target on his back.

[SHAQATTACK]

When has LeComplain ever tried to get a ref to capitulate to his views .

[nickagneta]

I do have to wonder though if the constant whining is paying off. For a guy that had great playoff success, was averaging almost 27 points a game, was an All-Star and All-NBA player, before this year, he wasn't getting superstar foul calls and lots of fouls against him weren't being called.

Brown similarly, didn't and still does not get those calls even though he is bodied hard on most drives to the basket.

This year, Tatum's free throw attempts have taken a significant jump. His free throw attempts have gone from 5.3 to 6.2 to 9.1 in the last three seasons and I don't see any real difference in the type of shots he is taking or the amount of contact being made against him by defenders. But he's now getting to the line a lot more, so perhaps complaining by him to give him the types of calls stars like Giannis, Harden, Lebron and Durant get has actually worked.

Meanwhile a guy like Brown who doesn't generally complain, at least not nearly as vociferously or as often as Tatum, and drives as much as Tatum, still is only going to the line 5 times a game, with only very slight to marginal increases in his FTAs.

[radiohead]

gary washburn @GwashburnGlobe
8m
The @NBA is rescinding Jayson Tatum’s technical foul from last night, the hand clap called by John Goble, according to an NBA source. #Celtics.
Beat Writer / Columnist

Problem is what happens when one of these horrible techs cost the C's the game.  They are not only momentum killing issues but 1 point could be the difference between the W or L.

The ref should get a fine for such a terrible call.

Called it

Any word on that phantom foul they called on DW when he hung on the rim? That foul and the JT tech were the two most glaring calls for the night in my opinion. Just bizzare calls.

[86MaxwellSmart]

gary washburn @GwashburnGlobe
8m
The @NBA is rescinding Jayson Tatum’s technical foul from last night, the hand clap called by John Goble, according to an NBA source. #Celtics.
Beat Writer / Columnist

Problem is what happens when one of these horrible techs cost the C's the game.  They are not only momentum killing issues but 1 point could be the difference between the W or L.

The ref should get a fine for such a terrible call.

Rescinding techs is about as useful as the NBA's "last two minutes" reports—doesn't do any actual good in the games that were affected by the bad calls. The ONLY good this does for Tatum is it keeps his season total for techs from increasing.

Yeah, but after 16 techs, you get a game suspension. And another game for every two after that. I think. I didn't look it up but remember reading about it a couple years ago regarding Draymond Green. Let me look it up.

Yup

Committing one technical foul does not automatically put a player on a suspension. Before getting suspended, a player receives a warning after committing ten technical fouls. A player with 16 unsportsmanlike technical fouls in regular games is suspended from playing one game. If a player commits his 17th technical foul will be fined $5000, and if a player commits another 2 technical fouls after being suspended will get his second suspension

Our very own Kendrick Perkins had that issue back then in 2010...think he got suspended in like Game 5 against the Orlando Magic. We almost blew that 3-0 lead when they crept back to a 3-2 deficit.

Plus, Perk had to play nice guy in the Finals against the Lakers, so as not to get another T and get suspended---He ended up tearing his ACL anyway.

[ozgod]

Jayson tatum just received the worst tech I’ve seen in the nba in a while. I’m actually laughing

And he's right.  The refs are getting progressively worse season to season, to the point where they're in full "look at me" mode.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/jayson-tatum-technical-foul-kevin-durant-ja-morant-celtics-thunder/pbtazluyo8skxuqkbxdisuf8

Tatum was frustrated by himself for doing something dumb.  He's not showing up the refs.  Scal says it on the tape, and JT summed it up after the game:

Jayson Tatum laughed when asked about his technical foul for clapping after he had just missed a layup and then fouled an opponent.

“Anybody in the arena, anybody watching the game, could have seen I was frustrated with myself.”

The NBA needs to look at this nonsense.  No player should be given a tech for that, but the NBA needs to ask themselves if they really want refs putting their fingers on the scales to screw over top-five superstars.

I wonder why it is that these referees seem to never be held accountable. Is it because they have nobody else to replace them if they are suspended for incompetence? Everyone can accept mistakes, people are human...but constant mistakes and overreactions like this call for accountability and there never seems to be any. The NBA sends out their last 2 min error report every game, I'm sure they also internally have metrics that work out how many incorrect calls there are, but they never seem to do anything. One can only conclude they are ok with this state of affairs.

I understand that certain people have reputations for complaining, and Tatum and GWill are definitely on that list, so in a way they only have themselves to blame for increased scrutiny...I also get that referees have to make decisions on the spur of the moment, without the benefit of replays, and to maintain their authority they sometimes have to double down and give a make up call later (which just compounds the situation IMO) but some of these decisions are just too much.

[boscel33]

I just read they rescinded the technical.  What they should do is put the officials onto some sort of bad call count.  After x amount, you're suspended.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/nba-reportedly-responds-to-absurd-technical-foul-given-to-jayson-tatum-vs-thunder/ar-AA149aWb?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=e3cd797d54104512b9280cf831f76cfc

[Kernewek]

I just read they rescinded the technical.  What they should do is put the officials onto some sort of bad call count.  After x amount, you're suspended.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/nba-reportedly-responds-to-absurd-technical-foul-given-to-jayson-tatum-vs-thunder/ar-AA149aWb?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=e3cd797d54104512b9280cf831f76cfc

The fundamental problem with your suggestion is that the replacement refs are even worse - this is true across all sports. Remember the NFL's replacement refs from a decade ago? What about the ones from the '95 NBA season?

[ozgod]

I just read they rescinded the technical.  What they should do is put the officials onto some sort of bad call count.  After x amount, you're suspended.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/nba-reportedly-responds-to-absurd-technical-foul-given-to-jayson-tatum-vs-thunder/ar-AA149aWb?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=e3cd797d54104512b9280cf831f76cfc

The fundamental problem with your suggestion is that the replacement refs are even worse - this is true across all sports. Remember the NFL's replacement refs from a decade ago? What about the ones from the '95 NBA season?

Unfortunately I think you hit it on the head...they aren't replacing these ones because the replacements are even worse. I can't imagine too many people would be queuing up to be a referee given the nature of the job.

[Big333223]

It's one thing when calls are missed during the speed of play but to call a tech like that, with time stopped is... bizarre.

[tenn_smoothie]

Is the problem that these guys never played the game themselves and thus have no feel for how to officiate ?
The modern NBA refs look much more fit than their counterparts from 40-50 years ago.

But those counterparts, working in 2-man crews btw, knew how to officiate pro basketball.
They also had a rapport with the players that is no longer there. I realize the game was played differently and all that though it was a much more physical game back then which meant a lot more contact to manage.

It is amazing to watch a game from the 70's or 80's, even finals games, and the players barely say a word to the officials outside of the occasional argument once or twice a game and that was often done by the head coach, not the players. I have read that there were words, but they were stated discreetly and often during play - and the officials back then would give as good as they got.

Earl Strom, Mendy Rudolph, Darell Garretson, Richie Powers are just a few names that come to mind.