I still haven’t seen any tangible proof that he’s a bigot. Only proof that he hangs out with bigots.
Speaking of crusades, Roy is on one to promote Tucker Carlson type views.
Are we not allowed to criticize people for hanging out with bigots? (And also for endorsing hate groups on social media?)
I don’t watch Carlson. I find him grating. But, if he’s advocating for others to condemn racism wherever they see it, then I guess good for him?
Nobody really criticizes those putting coins in the collection box every Sunday. The church still promotes bigotry deeming homosexuals in commited relationships as immoral. I know I keep bringing this up but it’s a religious group just like the whack jobs outside Barclay’s. But the church is a much bigger group of people worth billions , still taking money. Still endless lists of priests being revealed. Much worse than the Barclay group. Way more disgusting crimes. People still getting married by these people. Having their kids baptized etc. Who hangs out with these people? Can that be criticized? I’m not being snarky. I’m honestly asking. This subject isn’t fit for snarkiness.
Anyone that supports this group in my mind is VERY wrong. Just like racism I’ll call the people out. Family, friends. But do I end the relationship with them? I’m just answering honestly , no I don’t. ( please excuse my poor punctuation).
It sickens me but I’m not willing to end my relationship with them. It’s a lot to think about..
Plenty of people criticize the Catholic Church, the Vatican, the Pope, Catholic dogma, the covering up of abuse, etc.
Why do you keep deflecting about criticism of anti-Semitism because you have your own grievance with the Catholic Church? The "Catholics are just as bad as anti-Semitic zealots" just isn't true. I know tons of decent people who are Catholics. I don't know any anti-Semitic racists who are.
Regarding the Pope, he seemingly rejects bigotry against gays:
I would like to add one more thing to this: I see that so many times in the Church, apart from this case and also in this case, one looks for the “sins of youth,” for example, is it not thus?, And then these things are published. These things are not crimes. The crimes are something else: child abuse is a crime. But sins, if a person, or secular priest or a nun, has committed a sin and then that person experienced conversion, the Lord forgives and when the Lord forgives, the Lord forgets and this is very important for our lives. When we go to confession and we truly say “I have sinned in this matter,” the Lord forgets and we do not have the right to not forget because we run the risk that the Lord will not forget our sins, eh? This is a danger. This is what is important: a theology of sin. So many times I think of St. Peter: he committed one of the worst sins denying Christ. And with this sin they made him Pope. We must think about fact often.
... Then you spoke of the gay lobby. Agh… so much is written about the gay lobby. I have yet to find on a Vatican identity card the word gay. They say there are some gay people here. I think that when we encounter a gay person, we must make the distinction between the fact of a person being gay and the fact of a lobby, because lobbies are not good. They are bad. If a person is gay and seeks the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge that person? The Catechism of the Catholic Church explains this point beautifully but says, wait a moment, how does it say, it says, these persons must never be marginalized and “they must be integrated into society.”
The problem is not that one has this tendency; no, we must be brothers, this is the first matter.
Another translation had it as:
When I meet a gay person, I have to distinguish between their being gay and being part of a lobby. If they accept the Lord and have goodwill, who am I to judge them? They shouldn't be marginalized. The tendency [i.e., same-sex attraction] is not the problem ... they're our brothers.
If the Pope is telling people to accept and integrate with gay people, I wouldn't call him evil and hateful. He's trying to walk a fine line, between acknowledging that homosexuality is a Biblical sin, while also reminding people that it is not man's place to judge, but rather God's.
It's fair to disagree with that stance. It's fair to complain when a gay teacher gets fired from a Catholic school for no other reason than living life the way God presumably made them. But, these things are not the same as the BHIs.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/radical-hebrew-israelites
Topic: Nets, Tsai upset about Cryrie's promotion of antisemitic book, film (Read 40499 times)