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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1305 on: January 16, 2023, 02:40:49 PM »

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Wouldn’t be referring to Siakam, would he? Hmmm

CJ McCollum on Raptors: I think in terms of what they need or what they’re lacking, something’s gonna happen – I don’t know what. There’s rumblings about certain players on the team not being happy and due to tampering, I can’t speak to that but I think they’re gonna move someone.

Where could he end up?

I’m thinking Lakers, Mavs, Hawks, Heat.

What in the world do the Lakers realistically have to give for a player of Siakam's caliber besides Anthony Davis or Lebron?

The trade I’d be worried about the Lakers making is Westbrook, Walker & every pick and pick swap possible for Beal & Kuzma.

Bryant
Davis
James
Beal
Beverley

Kuzma, Schroder, Reaves, Nunn

IF everyone is healthy, that’s a contender.

Not even lakers fans propose this kind of thing with a straight face.

That Beal contract is awful, though. He’s about to turn 30 and is always in and out of the lineup. His numbers are way down across the board and he’s not shooting the ball well. Washington isn’t going anywhere and I wouldn’t be surprised if they try to get off that deal. Glad he didn’t make his way to the C’s.

As bad as his contract is if they blow it up they are going to want something different than draft picks that will be rookies 5 and 7 years out. Gotta think about these trades as more than fantasies for giving Lebron a shot at a title.

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1306 on: January 16, 2023, 03:03:34 PM »

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Wouldn’t be referring to Siakam, would he? Hmmm

CJ McCollum on Raptors: I think in terms of what they need or what they’re lacking, something’s gonna happen – I don’t know what. There’s rumblings about certain players on the team not being happy and due to tampering, I can’t speak to that but I think they’re gonna move someone.

Where could he end up?

I’m thinking Lakers, Mavs, Hawks, Heat.

What in the world do the Lakers realistically have to give for a player of Siakam's caliber besides Anthony Davis or Lebron?

The trade I’d be worried about the Lakers making is Westbrook, Walker & every pick and pick swap possible for Beal & Kuzma.

Bryant
Davis
James
Beal
Beverley

Kuzma, Schroder, Reaves, Nunn

IF everyone is healthy, that’s a contender.

Not even lakers fans propose this kind of thing with a straight face.

That Beal contract is awful, though. He’s about to turn 30 and is always in and out of the lineup. His numbers are way down across the board and he’s not shooting the ball well. Washington isn’t going anywhere and I wouldn’t be surprised if they try to get off that deal. Glad he didn’t make his way to the C’s.

As bad as his contract is if they blow it up they are going to want something different than draft picks that will be rookies 5 and 7 years out. Gotta think about these trades as more than fantasies for giving Lebron a shot at a title.

I’m not sure the Lakers get Beal or Kuzma, but Washington should absolutely blow it up. Beal will be 30, Porzingis and Kuzma will be 28 this year… That core isn’t taking the Wizards anywhere. Should trade those players and try to get as much as they can in terms of draft compensation.  Like DA did in Utah.
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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1307 on: January 16, 2023, 03:12:52 PM »

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Wouldn’t be referring to Siakam, would he? Hmmm

CJ McCollum on Raptors: I think in terms of what they need or what they’re lacking, something’s gonna happen – I don’t know what. There’s rumblings about certain players on the team not being happy and due to tampering, I can’t speak to that but I think they’re gonna move someone.

Where could he end up?

I’m thinking Lakers, Mavs, Hawks, Heat.

What in the world do the Lakers realistically have to give for a player of Siakam's caliber besides Anthony Davis or Lebron?

The trade I’d be worried about the Lakers making is Westbrook, Walker & every pick and pick swap possible for Beal & Kuzma.

Bryant
Davis
James
Beal
Beverley

Kuzma, Schroder, Reaves, Nunn

IF everyone is healthy, that’s a contender.

Not even lakers fans propose this kind of thing with a straight face.

That Beal contract is awful, though. He’s about to turn 30 and is always in and out of the lineup. His numbers are way down across the board and he’s not shooting the ball well. Washington isn’t going anywhere and I wouldn’t be surprised if they try to get off that deal. Glad he didn’t make his way to the C’s.

As bad as his contract is if they blow it up they are going to want something different than draft picks that will be rookies 5 and 7 years out. Gotta think about these trades as more than fantasies for giving Lebron a shot at a title.

I’m not sure the Lakers get Beal or Kuzma, but Washington should absolutely blow it up. Beal will be 30, Porzingis and Kuzma will be 28 this year… That core isn’t taking the Wizards anywhere. Should trade those players and try to get as much as they can in terms of draft compensation.  Like DA did in Utah.

I don’t disagree. But just to clarify you don’t blow it up to get rookies 5 and 7 years from now. That’s why the beal to lakers idea is nonsense

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1308 on: January 16, 2023, 03:26:21 PM »

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I'll admit I was a bit busy the past week so maybe I missed it, but is something up with Giannis? Out again with injury. Is it something serious or just precaution?
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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1309 on: January 16, 2023, 04:21:01 PM »

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Wouldn’t be referring to Siakam, would he? Hmmm

CJ McCollum on Raptors: I think in terms of what they need or what they’re lacking, something’s gonna happen – I don’t know what. There’s rumblings about certain players on the team not being happy and due to tampering, I can’t speak to that but I think they’re gonna move someone.

Where could he end up?

I’m thinking Lakers, Mavs, Hawks, Heat.

What in the world do the Lakers realistically have to give for a player of Siakam's caliber besides Anthony Davis or Lebron?

2 first rounders. Siakam will be 29 in a few months and is a FA after next year. He’s a good, not great player.

I think Siakam is pretty good.  I certainly don't think he is the problem with the Raptors.  He is about 26/8 at the PF position (admittedly with a high volume of attempts).  Has the size to legitimately defend the position.  I think most teams would be happy with that.  You are right that his age and contract are probably starting to run up against Toronto's winning horizon so it would not stun me if they decided to move him but I think they would ask a lot.  I know I would.

I would love him to be our PF but I see no way to get him unless you want to include Brown (which I don't).  Brogdon and Gallinari would work.  Maybe that plus 2 firsts could get him.  To me, that feels like a lot to give up but they might be able to find even better deals.  That might not even be enough.

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1310 on: January 16, 2023, 04:27:54 PM »

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Wouldn’t be referring to Siakam, would he? Hmmm

CJ McCollum on Raptors: I think in terms of what they need or what they’re lacking, something’s gonna happen – I don’t know what. There’s rumblings about certain players on the team not being happy and due to tampering, I can’t speak to that but I think they’re gonna move someone.

Where could he end up?

I’m thinking Lakers, Mavs, Hawks, Heat.

What in the world do the Lakers realistically have to give for a player of Siakam's caliber besides Anthony Davis or Lebron?

2 first rounders. Siakam will be 29 in a few months and is a FA after next year. He’s a good, not great player.
2 first rounders would be an absolute steal for the player Siakam has become. His versatility on both ends is ludicrous. He's essentially a point centre, and doing it effectively
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PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1311 on: January 16, 2023, 05:33:19 PM »

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Got to ask cause I’m always befuddled by it, why do we see more trade proposals to help the lakers, our biggest rival, of any team on here? There has to be more Westbrook/lakers trade ideas the last 4 months here by 5x than any other team.

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1312 on: January 16, 2023, 08:21:13 PM »

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The Suns have completely fallen apart. 5-17 in their last 22.  It’s curious to see what they do at the deadline.  Apparently they can’t make any trades for players more than an average player without Sarver’s sign-off until they’re sold, which they aren’t likely to get.

They could really use a player like Pritchard — their PG situation is a mess.

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1313 on: January 16, 2023, 08:28:30 PM »

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The Suns have completely fallen apart. 5-17 in their last 22.  It’s curious to see what they do at the deadline.  Apparently they can’t make any trades for players more than an average player without Sarver’s sign-off until they’re sold, which they aren’t likely to get.

They could really use a player like Pritchard — their PG situation is a mess.

Celtics really broke them in that December game


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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1314 on: January 16, 2023, 08:39:53 PM »

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The Suns have completely fallen apart. 5-17 in their last 22.  It’s curious to see what they do at the deadline.  Apparently they can’t make any trades for players more than an average player without Sarver’s sign-off until they’re sold, which they aren’t likely to get.

They could really use a player like Pritchard — their PG situation is a mess.

Wonder if we could lift Torrey Craig off of them.  Good shooter, defender.  Would be an upgrade over Hauser, should we feel the need to get somebody a little more reliable at that backup spot.  Reasonable cap hit.  Worth the cost of acquisition?  No idea. 
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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1315 on: January 16, 2023, 08:43:48 PM »

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Got to ask cause I’m always befuddled by it, why do we see more trade proposals to help the lakers, our biggest rival, of any team on here? There has to be more Westbrook/lakers trade ideas the last 4 months here by 5x than any other team.

Well, there's a thread here dedicated to one user who posts these insane ideas, there's a bunch of posts about Sixers/Lakers/Nets which often benefit/praise them, and there's still some people here who propose we acquire Ben Simmons or Cryrie in trades. So nothing really surprises me anymore  :laugh:
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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1316 on: January 16, 2023, 08:45:34 PM »

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The Suns have completely fallen apart. 5-17 in their last 22.  It’s curious to see what they do at the deadline.  Apparently they can’t make any trades for players more than an average player without Sarver’s sign-off until they’re sold, which they aren’t likely to get.

They could really use a player like Pritchard — their PG situation is a mess.

Celtics really broke them in that December game

I find the Suns unlikeable. Not all of the players there, but CP3 and Book seem arrogant, and Ayton also  strikes me as someone who is lazy/entitled to some extent. But I think the way their season ended last year against the Mavs really broke them, and led to internal feuding as well (including with the coach who by all accounts was a model guy and COTY-candidate). The Crowder situation is also a bit weird, it's like he's just waiting at home to be dealt lol. But they could absolutely use him if you ask me
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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1317 on: January 16, 2023, 09:01:24 PM »

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Lebron James is using the attention his chase to pass Kareem is getting to lobby for more foul shots.

I don't remember him crying so much to the press that the refs are horrible and constantly miss calls instead of sending Lakers to the line. On the court yes, but not so much to reporters. 

He obviously won't be sanctioned while he's chasing the all time scoring record though. He's so used to The King Calls that he can't fathom not getting them later in his career. "These refs don't know what a foul is anymore" certainly sounds like someone missing their entitlements.

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1318 on: January 16, 2023, 09:32:22 PM »

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In fairness to the Lakers, the league labeling the contact by Embiid a correct no call is kind of laughable.


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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1319 on: January 16, 2023, 10:09:40 PM »

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Got to ask cause I’m always befuddled by it, why do we see more trade proposals to help the lakers, our biggest rival, of any team on here? There has to be more Westbrook/lakers trade ideas the last 4 months here by 5x than any other team.

Yes!  I've said this before -- it is agonizing to see Celtics fans so intrigued by the idea of improving the Lakers roster.