NBA Season 2022-23

[keevsnick]

Will be interesting to see what the league does…

Adrian Wojnarowski: Sacramento Kings All-Star Domantas Sabonis is undergoing X-rays on his ribs/lungs, sources tell ESPN. Sabonis is getting evaluated after Draymond Green stepped on him in Game 2. – via Twitter wojespn

well maybe Sabonis shouldn't have grabbed Green's legs or continued playing.  I believe this report is entirely the Kings trying to get Green suspended.  Nothing more, nothing less.

Well Draymond requested an X-Ray for his ankle that Sabonis grabbed. Is he also trying to garner sympathy? 

Please. There's no excuse for what Draymond did right after which is stomping someone on the ground. And frankly, if the league does nothing about it then I think all bets are off, guys will have no problem playing even more physical and making "dangerous plays" too

Yep.  That is exactly what Draymond was doing.  Trying to avoid a suspension.  It is all gamesmanship.   

Green was given a flagrant 2 and ejected, that seems like the correct penalty given Sabonis instigated and started the entire thing with his own dangerous play.  Had Sabonis not grabbed Green's leg, then there is no stomp and no ejection.

Ya Sabonis shouldn't' have grabbed him. But the two things aren't really comparable in severity. Draymond should be suspended, 1-2 games. He has a history of stuff like this.

[Goldstar88]

Will be interesting to see what the league does…

Adrian Wojnarowski: Sacramento Kings All-Star Domantas Sabonis is undergoing X-rays on his ribs/lungs, sources tell ESPN. Sabonis is getting evaluated after Draymond Green stepped on him in Game 2. – via Twitter wojespn

well maybe Sabonis shouldn't have grabbed Green's legs or continued playing.  I believe this report is entirely the Kings trying to get Green suspended.  Nothing more, nothing less.

Do you think Sabonis grabbing Green’s leg justifies Draymond stomping on his chest? I’ve seen guys get their legs/arms grabbed, But never a player stomp on an opponents chest in response.

[JohnBoy65]

I am not a Green fan by any means. I think all his antics and trash talking is a result of declining play. He craves to stay as relevant as he once was.

With that said, I watched the video this morning, it didn't look like his leg went onto Sabonis intentionally. I did think it was the result of Sabonis grabbing it. However, Green could've stopped what he was doing to no put his body weight onto Sabonis. I didn't see it as a stomp, more of him intentionally pushing off of Sabonis to continue playing. I don't think he'll be suspended, or warrants it. The ejection seems appropriate enough.

[Moranis]

Will be interesting to see what the league does…

Adrian Wojnarowski: Sacramento Kings All-Star Domantas Sabonis is undergoing X-rays on his ribs/lungs, sources tell ESPN. Sabonis is getting evaluated after Draymond Green stepped on him in Game 2. – via Twitter wojespn

well maybe Sabonis shouldn't have grabbed Green's legs or continued playing.  I believe this report is entirely the Kings trying to get Green suspended.  Nothing more, nothing less.

Well Draymond requested an X-Ray for his ankle that Sabonis grabbed. Is he also trying to garner sympathy? 

Please. There's no excuse for what Draymond did right after which is stomping someone on the ground. And frankly, if the league does nothing about it then I think all bets are off, guys will have no problem playing even more physical and making "dangerous plays" too

Yep.  That is exactly what Draymond was doing.  Trying to avoid a suspension.  It is all gamesmanship.   

Green was given a flagrant 2 and ejected, that seems like the correct penalty given Sabonis instigated and started the entire thing with his own dangerous play.  Had Sabonis not grabbed Green's leg, then there is no stomp and no ejection.

Ya Sabonis shouldn't' have grabbed him. But the two things aren't really comparable in severity. Draymond should be suspended, 1-2 games. He has a history of stuff like this.

They weren't treated like they were the same.  Sabonis was given a technical.  Green was given a flagrant 2 and ejected. 

[Moranis]

I am not a Green fan by any means. I think all his antics and trash talking is a result of declining play. He craves to stay as relevant as he once was.

With that said, I watched the video this morning, it didn't look like his leg went onto Sabonis intentionally. I did think it was the result of Sabonis grabbing it. However, Green could've stopped what he was doing to no put his body weight onto Sabonis. I didn't see it as a stomp, more of him intentionally pushing off of Sabonis to continue playing. I don't think he'll be suspended, or warrants it. The ejection seems appropriate enough.

This is where I'm at as well.  Green didn't just rear back and stomp on Sabonis, he was trying to pull away and continue down court as play continued.  He probably could have just fallen over, and maybe he should have as that would have led to only Sabonis getting a foul called, but I think the flagrant 2 and ejection are the appropriate penalty for the actual actions as they happened on the court.

[Celtics2021]

Will be interesting to see what the league does…

Adrian Wojnarowski: Sacramento Kings All-Star Domantas Sabonis is undergoing X-rays on his ribs/lungs, sources tell ESPN. Sabonis is getting evaluated after Draymond Green stepped on him in Game 2. – via Twitter wojespn

well maybe Sabonis shouldn't have grabbed Green's legs or continued playing.  I believe this report is entirely the Kings trying to get Green suspended.  Nothing more, nothing less.

Well Draymond requested an X-Ray for his ankle that Sabonis grabbed. Is he also trying to garner sympathy? 

Please. There's no excuse for what Draymond did right after which is stomping someone on the ground. And frankly, if the league does nothing about it then I think all bets are off, guys will have no problem playing even more physical and making "dangerous plays" too

Yep.  That is exactly what Draymond was doing.  Trying to avoid a suspension.  It is all gamesmanship.   

Green was given a flagrant 2 and ejected, that seems like the correct penalty given Sabonis instigated and started the entire thing with his own dangerous play.  Had Sabonis not grabbed Green's leg, then there is no stomp and no ejection.

Ya Sabonis shouldn't' have grabbed him. But the two things aren't really comparable in severity. Draymond should be suspended, 1-2 games. He has a history of stuff like this.

They weren't treated like they were the same.  Sabonis was given a technical.  Green was given a flagrant 2 and ejected.

He stomped, intentionally, on Sabonis’s chest.  Everyone is very lucky that Sabonis’ didn’t suffer serious injury to vital organs.  It was not a basketball play, it was not an accident, and that it was retaliatory doesn’t remotely mitigate anything.  Draymond has a long history of these types of actions, and should be suspended.  He won’t because it’s the playoffs, but he should be.  In the regular season he absolutely would be.

[Moranis]

Will be interesting to see what the league does…

Adrian Wojnarowski: Sacramento Kings All-Star Domantas Sabonis is undergoing X-rays on his ribs/lungs, sources tell ESPN. Sabonis is getting evaluated after Draymond Green stepped on him in Game 2. – via Twitter wojespn

well maybe Sabonis shouldn't have grabbed Green's legs or continued playing.  I believe this report is entirely the Kings trying to get Green suspended.  Nothing more, nothing less.

Well Draymond requested an X-Ray for his ankle that Sabonis grabbed. Is he also trying to garner sympathy? 

Please. There's no excuse for what Draymond did right after which is stomping someone on the ground. And frankly, if the league does nothing about it then I think all bets are off, guys will have no problem playing even more physical and making "dangerous plays" too

Yep.  That is exactly what Draymond was doing.  Trying to avoid a suspension.  It is all gamesmanship.   

Green was given a flagrant 2 and ejected, that seems like the correct penalty given Sabonis instigated and started the entire thing with his own dangerous play.  Had Sabonis not grabbed Green's leg, then there is no stomp and no ejection.

Ya Sabonis shouldn't' have grabbed him. But the two things aren't really comparable in severity. Draymond should be suspended, 1-2 games. He has a history of stuff like this.

They weren't treated like they were the same.  Sabonis was given a technical.  Green was given a flagrant 2 and ejected.

He stomped, intentionally, on Sabonis’s chest.  Everyone is very lucky that Sabonis’ didn’t suffer serious injury to vital organs.  It was not a basketball play, it was not an accident, and that it was retaliatory doesn’t remotely mitigate anything.  Draymond has a long history of these types of actions, and should be suspended.  He won’t because it’s the playoffs, but he should be.  In the regular season he absolutely would be.

I just disagree.  I've seen the video a bunch of times and from a bunch of different angles.  I absolutely 100% believe, the only reason it happened was Sabonis grabbing his legs.  Draymond didn't put much force at all on that and didn't follow through.  He was stepping on him so he could push off and continue down the court.  If Draymond truly stomped on Sabonis, he wouldn't have gotten up like nothing happened (after his initial reaction to get Green ejected). 

[Kernewek]

Will be interesting to see what the league does…

Adrian Wojnarowski: Sacramento Kings All-Star Domantas Sabonis is undergoing X-rays on his ribs/lungs, sources tell ESPN. Sabonis is getting evaluated after Draymond Green stepped on him in Game 2. – via Twitter wojespn

well maybe Sabonis shouldn't have grabbed Green's legs or continued playing.  I believe this report is entirely the Kings trying to get Green suspended.  Nothing more, nothing less.

Well Draymond requested an X-Ray for his ankle that Sabonis grabbed. Is he also trying to garner sympathy? 

Please. There's no excuse for what Draymond did right after which is stomping someone on the ground. And frankly, if the league does nothing about it then I think all bets are off, guys will have no problem playing even more physical and making "dangerous plays" too

Yep.  That is exactly what Draymond was doing.  Trying to avoid a suspension.  It is all gamesmanship.   

Green was given a flagrant 2 and ejected, that seems like the correct penalty given Sabonis instigated and started the entire thing with his own dangerous play.  Had Sabonis not grabbed Green's leg, then there is no stomp and no ejection.

Ya Sabonis shouldn't' have grabbed him. But the two things aren't really comparable in severity. Draymond should be suspended, 1-2 games. He has a history of stuff like this.

They weren't treated like they were the same.  Sabonis was given a technical.  Green was given a flagrant 2 and ejected.

He stomped, intentionally, on Sabonis’s chest.  Everyone is very lucky that Sabonis’ didn’t suffer serious injury to vital organs.  It was not a basketball play, it was not an accident, and that it was retaliatory doesn’t remotely mitigate anything.  Draymond has a long history of these types of actions, and should be suspended.  He won’t because it’s the playoffs, but he should be.  In the regular season he absolutely would be.

I just disagree.  I've seen the video a bunch of times and from a bunch of different angles.  I absolutely 100% believe, the only reason it happened was Sabonis grabbing his legs.  Draymond didn't put much force at all on that and didn't follow through.  He was stepping on him so he could push off and continue down the court.  If Draymond truly stomped on Sabonis, he wouldn't have gotten up like nothing happened.

Well, we're all in agreement that he's putting his whole body weight on Sabonis's chest here:


Regardless of if it's a 'stomp' or a 'step', that's still, what, 230lbs being applied to your chest by one foot. That's going to be unpleasant.

[JohnBoy65]

Will be interesting to see what the league does…

Adrian Wojnarowski: Sacramento Kings All-Star Domantas Sabonis is undergoing X-rays on his ribs/lungs, sources tell ESPN. Sabonis is getting evaluated after Draymond Green stepped on him in Game 2. – via Twitter wojespn

well maybe Sabonis shouldn't have grabbed Green's legs or continued playing.  I believe this report is entirely the Kings trying to get Green suspended.  Nothing more, nothing less.

Well Draymond requested an X-Ray for his ankle that Sabonis grabbed. Is he also trying to garner sympathy? 

Please. There's no excuse for what Draymond did right after which is stomping someone on the ground. And frankly, if the league does nothing about it then I think all bets are off, guys will have no problem playing even more physical and making "dangerous plays" too

Yep.  That is exactly what Draymond was doing.  Trying to avoid a suspension.  It is all gamesmanship.   

Green was given a flagrant 2 and ejected, that seems like the correct penalty given Sabonis instigated and started the entire thing with his own dangerous play.  Had Sabonis not grabbed Green's leg, then there is no stomp and no ejection.

Ya Sabonis shouldn't' have grabbed him. But the two things aren't really comparable in severity. Draymond should be suspended, 1-2 games. He has a history of stuff like this.

They weren't treated like they were the same.  Sabonis was given a technical.  Green was given a flagrant 2 and ejected.

He stomped, intentionally, on Sabonis’s chest.  Everyone is very lucky that Sabonis’ didn’t suffer serious injury to vital organs.  It was not a basketball play, it was not an accident, and that it was retaliatory doesn’t remotely mitigate anything.  Draymond has a long history of these types of actions, and should be suspended.  He won’t because it’s the playoffs, but he should be.  In the regular season he absolutely would be.

I just disagree.  I've seen the video a bunch of times and from a bunch of different angles.  I absolutely 100% believe, the only reason it happened was Sabonis grabbing his legs.  Draymond didn't put much force at all on that and didn't follow through.  He was stepping on him so he could push off and continue down the court.  If Draymond truly stomped on Sabonis, he wouldn't have gotten up like nothing happened.

Well, we're all in agreement that he's putting his whole body weight on Sabonis's chest here:


Regardless of if it's a 'stomp' or a 'step', that's still, what, 230lbs being applied to your chest by one foot. That's going to be unpleasant.

Oh absolutely. I am sure it was unpleasant, but that's not the barometer on a suspension. Of course, only Dray knows what his intentions were/were not. Based on how I saw it I am in agreement with Moranis. It just seemed to be caused by Sabonis pulling his ankle.

[Vermont Green]

]I just disagree.  I've seen the video a bunch of times and from a bunch of different angles. I absolutely 100% believe, the only reason it happened was Sabonis grabbing his legs.  Draymond didn't put much force at all on that and didn't follow through.  He was stepping on him so he could push off and continue down the court.  If Draymond truly stomped on Sabonis, he wouldn't have gotten up like nothing happened (after his initial reaction to get Green ejected).

Does this matter?  Say Sabonis grabbed Green's arm and in response, Green aggressively elbowed Sabonis in the chest.  Or punched him in the face.  You could say he wouldn't have done it if Sabonis hadn't grabbed his arm there too.  I don't think it matters.  If you think the "stomp" was aggressive and retaliatory, then he should be further punished (suspended).  If you think he just kind of accidentally stepped on him as he was trying to untangle or whatever, then no further punishment.

I see some of both.  Some just untangling and some aggressive stomping.  He didn't stop at just untangling.  He took it further (as he generally does).  I don't know if the league can consider past actions, his pattern of this sort of thing.  This instance on its own is probably not a suspension.  But it is also dangerous to not suspend him based on his pattern of behavior.  What he did was dangerous.  If he thinks he can get away with it, he will do it again.  That is the issue here to me.

[Donoghus]

Some of you have apparently never been stepped/stomped on and it really shows. 

[jpotter33]

Cannot believe all the excuses  going on surrounding the Green stuff, both on here and other social media. It’s classic victim-blaming, especially given Green’s *long* history of such behavior.

He absolutely should be suspended. That crap is dangerous, and his history alone should warrant at least a one game suspension.

[RPGenerate]

The biggest problem is what he did after the foot stomp. Any reasonable excuse you have goes out the window when you start taunting the crowd like he's in a heel in a WWE promo, right after you do something that could seriously hurt someone. It's a terrible look for the league, especially with Silver sitting right there.

[Vermont Green]

The biggest problem is what he did after the foot stomp. Any reasonable excuse you have goes out the window when you start taunting the crowd like he's in a heel in a WWE promo, right after you do something that could seriously hurt someone. It's a terrible look for the league, especially with Silver sitting right there.

I hadn't seen the antics after that you refer to.  I found a video that continued and included that.  I agree with you that the league should frown on that pretty heavily.  I am not sure if the league will consider that in their assessment for a suspension.  They should, but I don't know if they will.

What it shows me is that if he gets away with this without any further penalty (he did get ejected) he will do it again.

[blink]

Cannot believe all the excuses  going on surrounding the Green stuff, both on here and other social media. It’s classic victim-blaming, especially given Green’s *long* history of such behavior.

He absolutely should be suspended. That crap is dangerous, and his history alone should warrant at least a one game suspension.

I agree with you 100%.  What he did by the full on WWE stomp was way worse than grab the leg that Sabonis did.  It isn't even close.  Green wasn't in danger by what Sabonis did, but Green's stomp on the other hand was very dangerous.

The problem is that Green seemingly doesn't have the same limits that other players have.   Green can go scream in a refs face and never get a T, but when JT or JB do something WAY more mild, they get T'd up.  So the NBA has different guardrails for Green and it isn't fair.  Any other player would be suspended for the stomp.  But just watch, Green won't be suspended because for some reason that I don't understand he gets different rules than the rest of the NBA.  I would be VERY surprised if Silver suspends him, and that is with Silver in the stands last night.