76ers (0-0) at Celtics (0-0) Game #1 10/18/22

[nickagneta]

Our bench outscored the Philly bench 34-11

#NoDepth

I don’t consider getting production out of 2 bench players to be depth. Grant and Brogdon had all but 3 points for the reserves. Blake Griffin: 1pt, Noah Vonleh: 2pts, Sam Hauser: 0pts, Kornet: DNP, Jackson:DNP. If the C’s top 7 players aren’t going to miss any time due to injury or Covid/other Illness than they could get away with only 7 players producing. I don’t think that’s very realistic, though.

of course another way to look at this is that the celtics ALREADY had two injuries to their top 7 players (TL and gallinaro) and STILL the bench beat the living snot out of philly's bench.

their bench did not have anyone on their bench score as did boston's top 2 bench players...even with the injuries to the celtics.

so... the celtics bench can not absorb 2 more injuries, a total of 4, and still put an above average bench out there to play? i don't think, many teams in the nba could do that.

If the bench only means Brogdon and Grant, than sure. C’s 7 man rotation might be best in the league. The issue is guys will miss games and then the C’s will need to go deeper into the bench. I also don’t think JB and JT should be playing 40mins every game. Brad knew that Rob was going to miss a good amount of time as he recovers from the knee injury and that Gallo was more than likely lost for the year when he injured his knee back in Aug. These aren’t recent developments. Vonleh had to play 20mins yesterday and he wasn’t even in the NBA last year. Blake is a shell of himself, Hauser saw 3mins of court time and  Kornet/Jackson were DNP’s. That’s not good…

A team you were adamant had better depth and a better bench, even super deep bench, got clearly owned by the Celtics bench, but you're doubling down on your pessimism regarding the Celtics bench when they started a bench player, got significant contributions off the rest of the bench and won.

Some people just can't feel good about things because, gosh darn it, they made a statement and have to defend it at all costs, even if it was wrong.

[Vermont Green]

Our bench outscored the Philly bench 34-11

#NoDepth

I don’t consider getting production out of 2 bench players to be depth. Grant and Brogdon had all but 3 points for the reserves. Blake Griffin: 1pt, Noah Vonleh: 2pts, Sam Hauser: 0pts, Kornet: DNP, Jackson:DNP. If the C’s top 7 players aren’t going to miss any time due to injury or Covid/other Illness than they could get away with only 7 players producing. I don’t think that’s very realistic, though.

of course another way to look at this is that the celtics ALREADY had two injuries to their top 7 players (TL and gallinaro) and STILL the bench beat the living snot out of philly's bench.

their bench did not have anyone on their bench score as did boston's top 2 bench players...even with the injuries to the celtics.

so... the celtics bench can not absorb 2 more injuries, a total of 4, and still put an above average bench out there to play? i don't think, many teams in the nba could do that.

If the bench only means Brogdon and Grant, than sure. C’s 7 man rotation might be best in the league. The issue is guys will miss games and then the C’s will need to go deeper into the bench. I also don’t think JB and JT should be playing 40mins every game. Brad knew that Rob was going to miss a good amount of time as he recovers from the knee injury and that Gallo was more than likely lost for the year when he injured his knee back in Aug. These aren’t recent developments. Vonleh had to play 20mins yesterday and he wasn’t even in the NBA last year. Blake is a shell of himself, Hauser saw 3mins of court time and  Kornet/Jackson were DNP’s. That’s not good…

I think we are all saying the same thing in different ways.  1-7, rock solid, best in the league.  8-11 (Vonleh, Griffin, Pritchard, Hauser) TBD, but not terrible.  12-15 (Kornet, Jackson and a couple of 2-ways), pretty weak.

I think the difference is how critical people are of the roster construction.  Up until about August, I think the team believed RWill would start the season and Gallinari too.  That changed dramatically.  Since then they brought in Griffin (I think they already had Vonleh).  People seem to be critical that we have not signed Favors.  Don't even know if he wants to play for the Celtics.  Before that is was Cousins and Dwight Howard.  Also critical that we did not trade for say Nerlens Noel (who was injured all preseason I believe) before the TPE expired.

I am all for signing Favors.  I believe that he would already be here if he wanted to be here.  But he is just another bench big, probably not even as good as Grant.  Maybe not as good as Vonleh.  I am not for signing Cousins or Howard or just someone just to sign someone.  I am fine to let things play out.  Sure, there are going to be nights where someone is sick or someone is being rested.  Not the end of the world.  They will get someone in at some point.  Maybe even Favors.  And I am not sold on Hauser as the back up SF either.

I am happy to take a few weeks and see what we have in Vonleh and Griffin.  Also Hauser.  No need to be rash.  I would grab Favors if that is on the table, but I suspect it isn't, at least not at this point.  I am not outraged they have not brought in some random big.  I am actually pretty happy with where the team is at.  Every player is a solid citizen.  No knuckle heads.  No malcontents.  I doubt they are done and they shouldn't be done, but so far so good.

[Goldstar88]

Our bench outscored the Philly bench 34-11

#NoDepth

I don’t consider getting production out of 2 bench players to be depth. Grant and Brogdon had all but 3 points for the reserves. Blake Griffin: 1pt, Noah Vonleh: 2pts, Sam Hauser: 0pts, Kornet: DNP, Jackson:DNP. If the C’s top 7 players aren’t going to miss any time due to injury or Covid/other Illness than they could get away with only 7 players producing. I don’t think that’s very realistic, though.

of course another way to look at this is that the celtics ALREADY had two injuries to their top 7 players (TL and gallinaro) and STILL the bench beat the living snot out of philly's bench.

their bench did not have anyone on their bench score as did boston's top 2 bench players...even with the injuries to the celtics.

so... the celtics bench can not absorb 2 more injuries, a total of 4, and still put an above average bench out there to play? i don't think, many teams in the nba could do that.

If the bench only means Brogdon and Grant, than sure. C’s 7 man rotation might be best in the league. The issue is guys will miss games and then the C’s will need to go deeper into the bench. I also don’t think JB and JT should be playing 40mins every game. Brad knew that Rob was going to miss a good amount of time as he recovers from the knee injury and that Gallo was more than likely lost for the year when he injured his knee back in Aug. These aren’t recent developments. Vonleh had to play 20mins yesterday and he wasn’t even in the NBA last year. Blake is a shell of himself, Hauser saw 3mins of court time and  Kornet/Jackson were DNP’s. That’s not good…

A team you were adamant had better depth and a better bench, even super deep bench, got clearly owned by the Celtics bench, but you're doubling down on your pessimism regarding the Celtics bench when they started a bench player, got significant contributions off the rest of the bench and won.

Some people just can't feel good about things because, gosh darn it, they made a statement and have to defend it at all costs, even if it was wrong.

The Celtics have 2 solid bench players that can be counted on at this point, which is Grant and Brogdon. I don’t think that’s pessimism, it’s just the reality of the situation. That’s not depth, IMO.

[Celtics2021]

Our bench outscored the Philly bench 34-11

#NoDepth

I don’t consider getting production out of 2 bench players to be depth. Grant and Brogdon had all but 3 points for the reserves. Blake Griffin: 1pt, Noah Vonleh: 2pts, Sam Hauser: 0pts, Kornet: DNP, Jackson:DNP. If the C’s top 7 players aren’t going to miss any time due to injury or Covid/other Illness than they could get away with only 7 players producing. I don’t think that’s very realistic, though.

of course another way to look at this is that the celtics ALREADY had two injuries to their top 7 players (TL and gallinaro) and STILL the bench beat the living snot out of philly's bench.

their bench did not have anyone on their bench score as did boston's top 2 bench players...even with the injuries to the celtics.

so... the celtics bench can not absorb 2 more injuries, a total of 4, and still put an above average bench out there to play? i don't think, many teams in the nba could do that.

If the bench only means Brogdon and Grant, than sure. C’s 7 man rotation might be best in the league. The issue is guys will miss games and then the C’s will need to go deeper into the bench. I also don’t think JB and JT should be playing 40mins every game. Brad knew that Rob was going to miss a good amount of time as he recovers from the knee injury and that Gallo was more than likely lost for the year when he injured his knee back in Aug. These aren’t recent developments. Vonleh had to play 20mins yesterday and he wasn’t even in the NBA last year. Blake is a shell of himself, Hauser saw 3mins of court time and  Kornet/Jackson were DNP’s. That’s not good…

A team you were adamant had better depth and a better bench, even super deep bench, got clearly owned by the Celtics bench, but you're doubling down on your pessimism regarding the Celtics bench when they started a bench player, got significant contributions off the rest of the bench and won.

Some people just can't feel good about things because, gosh darn it, they made a statement and have to defend it at all costs, even if it was wrong.

The Celtics have 2 solid bench players that can be counted on at this point, which is Grant and Brogdon. I don’t think that’s pessimism, it’s just the reality of the situation. That’s not depth, IMO.

Again, you were vaunting the Sixers depth (amongst others) just days ago.  Their supposed depth contributed 11 points, 1 rebound, and 1 assist in 60 minutes of play.  The Celtics got 33% more minutes, triple the scoring, six times the assists, and 10 times the rebounds from their bench.

My argument isn’t actually that the Celtics depth is tremendous.  I don’t think it is, given that we’re already down a couple of players.  My argument is that everyone overrated the depth of other teams.  I think the Celtics have average-to-good depth, would have had more but for the injuries, and would be wise to acquire an additional player before the stretch run.

[Atzar]

Again, you were vaunting the Sixers depth (amongst others) just days ago.  Their supposed depth contributed 11 points, 1 rebound, and 1 assist in 60 minutes of play.  The Celtics got 33% more minutes, triple the scoring, six times the assists, and 10 times the rebounds from their bench.

My argument isn’t actually that the Celtics depth is tremendous.  I don’t think it is, given that we’re already down a couple of players.  My argument is that everyone overrated the depth of other teams.  I think the Celtics have average-to-good depth, would have had more but for the injuries, and would be wise to acquire an additional player before the stretch run.

Agree with the bolded.  Every team in this league is trying to make it work with one or two weak links.  That's just how it goes.  Many teams have even more than that. 

We're fine for where we're at, down two bodies.  I might have wished that we signed a 'real big' to take some pressure off of Al, but Al played 23 minutes last night against one of the premier bigs in the NBA.  Vonleh passed his first test.  If he and Griffin can continue to keep Al's workload manageable, then I'm fine there. 

I do hope we can work Hauser in some to spell Brown and Tatum over the course of the season.  39 minutes for the Jays isn't egregious by any stretch, but it's high.  Keeping them as fresh as possible will be important for the playoffs.

[hwangjini_1]

Our bench outscored the Philly bench 34-11

#NoDepth

I don’t consider getting production out of 2 bench players to be depth. Grant and Brogdon had all but 3 points for the reserves. Blake Griffin: 1pt, Noah Vonleh: 2pts, Sam Hauser: 0pts, Kornet: DNP, Jackson:DNP. If the C’s top 7 players aren’t going to miss any time due to injury or Covid/other Illness than they could get away with only 7 players producing. I don’t think that’s very realistic, though.

of course another way to look at this is that the celtics ALREADY had two injuries to their top 7 players (TL and gallinaro) and STILL the bench beat the living snot out of philly's bench.

their bench did not have anyone on their bench score as did boston's top 2 bench players...even with the injuries to the celtics.

so... the celtics bench can not absorb 2 more injuries, a total of 4, and still put an above average bench out there to play? i don't think, many teams in the nba could do that.

If the bench only means Brogdon and Grant, than sure. C’s 7 man rotation might be best in the league. The issue is guys will miss games and then the C’s will need to go deeper into the bench. I also don’t think JB and JT should be playing 40mins every game. Brad knew that Rob was going to miss a good amount of time as he recovers from the knee injury and that Gallo was more than likely lost for the year when he injured his knee back in Aug. These aren’t recent developments. Vonleh had to play 20mins yesterday and he wasn’t even in the NBA last year. Blake is a shell of himself, Hauser saw 3mins of court time and  Kornet/Jackson were DNP’s. That’s not good…

A team you were adamant had better depth and a better bench, even super deep bench, got clearly owned by the Celtics bench, but you're doubling down on your pessimism regarding the Celtics bench when they started a bench player, got significant contributions off the rest of the bench and won.

Some people just can't feel good about things because, gosh darn it, they made a statement and have to defend it at all costs, even if it was wrong.

The Celtics have 2 solid bench players that can be counted on at this point, which is Grant and Brogdon. I don’t think that’s pessimism, it’s just the reality of the situation. That’s not depth, IMO.

Again, you were vaunting the Sixers depth (amongst others) just days ago.  Their supposed depth contributed 11 points, 1 rebound, and 1 assist in 60 minutes of play.  The Celtics got 33% more minutes, triple the scoring, six times the assists, and 10 times the rebounds from their bench.

My argument isn’t actually that the Celtics depth is tremendous.  I don’t think it is, given that we’re already down a couple of players.  My argument is that everyone overrated the depth of other teams.  I think the Celtics have average-to-good depth, would have had more but for the injuries, and would be wise to acquire an additional player before the stretch run.

good points. and if nothing else, TL might count as that "additional player" and "additional big."

[Moranis]

Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum are the first pair of teammates to each score 35+ points in a season opener since Wilt Chamberlain and Jerry West did it for the Lakers in 1969

Source: NBA History

And to think both Jays could have been taken by the Lakers

Instead they've got Austin Reaves and no picks.

they got Davis for those picks ultimately.  Rather have Tatum and Brown than Davis (especially with what else they gave up for Davis), but Davis isn't exactly a bum.

[sgrogan]

Our bench outscored the Philly bench 34-11

#NoDepth

I don’t consider getting production out of 2 bench players to be depth. Grant and Brogdon had all but 3 points for the reserves. Blake Griffin: 1pt, Noah Vonleh: 2pts, Sam Hauser: 0pts, Kornet: DNP, Jackson:DNP. If the C’s top 7 players aren’t going to miss any time due to injury or Covid/other Illness than they could get away with only 7 players producing. I don’t think that’s very realistic, though.

of course another way to look at this is that the celtics ALREADY had two injuries to their top 7 players (TL and gallinaro) and STILL the bench beat the living snot out of philly's bench.

their bench did not have anyone on their bench score as did boston's top 2 bench players...even with the injuries to the celtics.

so... the celtics bench can not absorb 2 more injuries, a total of 4, and still put an above average bench out there to play? i don't think, many teams in the nba could do that.

If the bench only means Brogdon and Grant, than sure. C’s 7 man rotation might be best in the league. The issue is guys will miss games and then the C’s will need to go deeper into the bench. I also don’t think JB and JT should be playing 40mins every game. Brad knew that Rob was going to miss a good amount of time as he recovers from the knee injury and that Gallo was more than likely lost for the year when he injured his knee back in Aug. These aren’t recent developments. Vonleh had to play 20mins yesterday and he wasn’t even in the NBA last year. Blake is a shell of himself, Hauser saw 3mins of court time and  Kornet/Jackson were DNP’s. That’s not good…

A team you were adamant had better depth and a better bench, even super deep bench, got clearly owned by the Celtics bench, but you're doubling down on your pessimism regarding the Celtics bench when they started a bench player, got significant contributions off the rest of the bench and won.

Some people just can't feel good about things because, gosh darn it, they made a statement and have to defend it at all costs, even if it was wrong.

The Celtics have 2 solid bench players that can be counted on at this point, which is Grant and Brogdon. I don’t think that’s pessimism, it’s just the reality of the situation. That’s not depth, IMO.

Again, you were vaunting the Sixers depth (amongst others) just days ago.  Their supposed depth contributed 11 points, 1 rebound, and 1 assist in 60 minutes of play.  The Celtics got 33% more minutes, triple the scoring, six times the assists, and 10 times the rebounds from their bench.

My argument isn’t actually that the Celtics depth is tremendous.  I don’t think it is, given that we’re already down a couple of players.  My argument is that everyone overrated the depth of other teams. I think the Celtics have average-to-good depth, would have had more but for the injuries, and would be wise to acquire an additional player before the stretch run.

My argument is here. I don't think we want to be an average to good team. I've always wanted to add an additional player for the stretch run. I think we could have used the 17M TPE to be good to great before that.
Williams' and Gallanari's  injuries aren't a great surprise, they average under 65 games a year. The fact that we have two players injured already doesn't minimize that other players may also get hurt.

The question isn't "do the celts have depth" but rather "do they have championship depth"
Not just "if everyone is healthy" but for the regular season, so they can manage minutes to make sure "everyone is healthy for the playoffs"

[Goldstar88]

Our bench outscored the Philly bench 34-11

#NoDepth

I don’t consider getting production out of 2 bench players to be depth. Grant and Brogdon had all but 3 points for the reserves. Blake Griffin: 1pt, Noah Vonleh: 2pts, Sam Hauser: 0pts, Kornet: DNP, Jackson:DNP. If the C’s top 7 players aren’t going to miss any time due to injury or Covid/other Illness than they could get away with only 7 players producing. I don’t think that’s very realistic, though.

of course another way to look at this is that the celtics ALREADY had two injuries to their top 7 players (TL and gallinaro) and STILL the bench beat the living snot out of philly's bench.

their bench did not have anyone on their bench score as did boston's top 2 bench players...even with the injuries to the celtics.

so... the celtics bench can not absorb 2 more injuries, a total of 4, and still put an above average bench out there to play? i don't think, many teams in the nba could do that.

If the bench only means Brogdon and Grant, than sure. C’s 7 man rotation might be best in the league. The issue is guys will miss games and then the C’s will need to go deeper into the bench. I also don’t think JB and JT should be playing 40mins every game. Brad knew that Rob was going to miss a good amount of time as he recovers from the knee injury and that Gallo was more than likely lost for the year when he injured his knee back in Aug. These aren’t recent developments. Vonleh had to play 20mins yesterday and he wasn’t even in the NBA last year. Blake is a shell of himself, Hauser saw 3mins of court time and  Kornet/Jackson were DNP’s. That’s not good…

A team you were adamant had better depth and a better bench, even super deep bench, got clearly owned by the Celtics bench, but you're doubling down on your pessimism regarding the Celtics bench when they started a bench player, got significant contributions off the rest of the bench and won.

Some people just can't feel good about things because, gosh darn it, they made a statement and have to defend it at all costs, even if it was wrong.

The Celtics have 2 solid bench players that can be counted on at this point, which is Grant and Brogdon. I don’t think that’s pessimism, it’s just the reality of the situation. That’s not depth, IMO.

Again, you were vaunting the Sixers depth (amongst others) just days ago.  Their supposed depth contributed 11 points, 1 rebound, and 1 assist in 60 minutes of play.  The Celtics got 33% more minutes, triple the scoring, six times the assists, and 10 times the rebounds from their bench.

My argument isn’t actually that the Celtics depth is tremendous.  I don’t think it is, given that we’re already down a couple of players.  My argument is that everyone overrated the depth of other teams.  I think the Celtics have average-to-good depth, would have had more but for the injuries, and would be wise to acquire an additional player before the stretch run.

Again, virtually all of that production was from two players. The other guys combined for 3 points. The Celtics have an incredible 7 man rotation right now. The discussion from the other day was regarding the deep bench, which is not Grant and Brogdon. Gallo is more than likely out for the season. Rob will hopefully be back sometime next year, but who knows. The Celtics overall depth right now is just not good. Once players start missing games(which they do every year), it’s going to be a problem.

[celticsclay]

Our bench outscored the Philly bench 34-11

#NoDepth

I don’t consider getting production out of 2 bench players to be depth. Grant and Brogdon had all but 3 points for the reserves. Blake Griffin: 1pt, Noah Vonleh: 2pts, Sam Hauser: 0pts, Kornet: DNP, Jackson:DNP. If the C’s top 7 players aren’t going to miss any time due to injury or Covid/other Illness than they could get away with only 7 players producing. I don’t think that’s very realistic, though.

of course another way to look at this is that the celtics ALREADY had two injuries to their top 7 players (TL and gallinaro) and STILL the bench beat the living snot out of philly's bench.

their bench did not have anyone on their bench score as did boston's top 2 bench players...even with the injuries to the celtics.

so... the celtics bench can not absorb 2 more injuries, a total of 4, and still put an above average bench out there to play? i don't think, many teams in the nba could do that.

If the bench only means Brogdon and Grant, than sure. C’s 7 man rotation might be best in the league. The issue is guys will miss games and then the C’s will need to go deeper into the bench. I also don’t think JB and JT should be playing 40mins every game. Brad knew that Rob was going to miss a good amount of time as he recovers from the knee injury and that Gallo was more than likely lost for the year when he injured his knee back in Aug. These aren’t recent developments. Vonleh had to play 20mins yesterday and he wasn’t even in the NBA last year. Blake is a shell of himself, Hauser saw 3mins of court time and  Kornet/Jackson were DNP’s. That’s not good…

A team you were adamant had better depth and a better bench, even super deep bench, got clearly owned by the Celtics bench, but you're doubling down on your pessimism regarding the Celtics bench when they started a bench player, got significant contributions off the rest of the bench and won.

Some people just can't feel good about things because, gosh darn it, they made a statement and have to defend it at all costs, even if it was wrong.

The Celtics have 2 solid bench players that can be counted on at this point, which is Grant and Brogdon. I don’t think that’s pessimism, it’s just the reality of the situation. That’s not depth, IMO.

Again, you were vaunting the Sixers depth (amongst others) just days ago.  Their supposed depth contributed 11 points, 1 rebound, and 1 assist in 60 minutes of play.  The Celtics got 33% more minutes, triple the scoring, six times the assists, and 10 times the rebounds from their bench.

My argument isn’t actually that the Celtics depth is tremendous.  I don’t think it is, given that we’re already down a couple of players.  My argument is that everyone overrated the depth of other teams.  I think the Celtics have average-to-good depth, would have had more but for the injuries, and would be wise to acquire an additional player before the stretch run.

Again, virtually all of that production was from two players. The other guys combined for 3 points. The Celtics have an incredible 7 man rotation right now. The discussion from the other day was regarding the deep bench, which is not Grant and Brogdon. Gallo is more than likely out for the year. Rob will hopefully be back sometime next year, but who knows. The Celtics overall depth right now is just not good. Once players start missing games(which they do every year), it’s going to be a problem.

I do think some overrate the 76ers depth. Harrell and house are very average players. It is interesting thybulle appears to be out of the rotation.

[nickagneta]

Our bench outscored the Philly bench 34-11

#NoDepth

I don’t consider getting production out of 2 bench players to be depth. Grant and Brogdon had all but 3 points for the reserves. Blake Griffin: 1pt, Noah Vonleh: 2pts, Sam Hauser: 0pts, Kornet: DNP, Jackson:DNP. If the C’s top 7 players aren’t going to miss any time due to injury or Covid/other Illness than they could get away with only 7 players producing. I don’t think that’s very realistic, though.

of course another way to look at this is that the celtics ALREADY had two injuries to their top 7 players (TL and gallinaro) and STILL the bench beat the living snot out of philly's bench.

their bench did not have anyone on their bench score as did boston's top 2 bench players...even with the injuries to the celtics.

so... the celtics bench can not absorb 2 more injuries, a total of 4, and still put an above average bench out there to play? i don't think, many teams in the nba could do that.

If the bench only means Brogdon and Grant, than sure. C’s 7 man rotation might be best in the league. The issue is guys will miss games and then the C’s will need to go deeper into the bench. I also don’t think JB and JT should be playing 40mins every game. Brad knew that Rob was going to miss a good amount of time as he recovers from the knee injury and that Gallo was more than likely lost for the year when he injured his knee back in Aug. These aren’t recent developments. Vonleh had to play 20mins yesterday and he wasn’t even in the NBA last year. Blake is a shell of himself, Hauser saw 3mins of court time and  Kornet/Jackson were DNP’s. That’s not good…

A team you were adamant had better depth and a better bench, even super deep bench, got clearly owned by the Celtics bench, but you're doubling down on your pessimism regarding the Celtics bench when they started a bench player, got significant contributions off the rest of the bench and won.

Some people just can't feel good about things because, gosh darn it, they made a statement and have to defend it at all costs, even if it was wrong.

The Celtics have 2 solid bench players that can be counted on at this point, which is Grant and Brogdon. I don’t think that’s pessimism, it’s just the reality of the situation. That’s not depth, IMO.

Again, you were vaunting the Sixers depth (amongst others) just days ago.  Their supposed depth contributed 11 points, 1 rebound, and 1 assist in 60 minutes of play.  The Celtics got 33% more minutes, triple the scoring, six times the assists, and 10 times the rebounds from their bench.

My argument isn’t actually that the Celtics depth is tremendous.  I don’t think it is, given that we’re already down a couple of players.  My argument is that everyone overrated the depth of other teams.  I think the Celtics have average-to-good depth, would have had more but for the injuries, and would be wise to acquire an additional player before the stretch run.

Again, virtually all of that production was from two players. The other guys combined for 3 points. The Celtics have an incredible 7 man rotation right now. The discussion from the other day was regarding the deep bench, which is not Grant and Brogdon. Gallo is more than likely out for the year. Rob will hopefully be back sometime next year, but who knows. The Celtics overall depth right now is just not good. Once players start missing games(which they do every year), it’s going to be a problem.

You seem to be discounting that White, a bench player, is starting due to injury, that Pritchard has proven two years in a row that he can be a tremendous contributor and that Blake Griffin, if he can play like he did in Brooklyn and give this team 6-8 PPG, 4 RPG, 1-2 APG and draw lots of charges, can be a very good bench contributor too. You also seem to not want to admit Vonleh had a good preseason and played high quality ball against one of the 5 best players in the league.

White, Brogdon, Grant, Pritchard, Griffin and Vonleh is a good bench. If healthy you add Gallo to that bench.

Now sure, White or Grant will be starting and Gallo is gone but if White is starting, Brogdon, Grant, Blake, Vonleh and Pritchard is still a very good bench that's 5 deep.

[Sophomore]

Our bench outscored the Philly bench 34-11

#NoDepth

I don’t consider getting production out of 2 bench players to be depth. Grant and Brogdon had all but 3 points for the reserves. Blake Griffin: 1pt, Noah Vonleh: 2pts, Sam Hauser: 0pts, Kornet: DNP, Jackson:DNP. If the C’s top 7 players aren’t going to miss any time due to injury or Covid/other Illness than they could get away with only 7 players producing. I don’t think that’s very realistic, though.

of course another way to look at this is that the celtics ALREADY had two injuries to their top 7 players (TL and gallinaro) and STILL the bench beat the living snot out of philly's bench.

their bench did not have anyone on their bench score as did boston's top 2 bench players...even with the injuries to the celtics.

so... the celtics bench can not absorb 2 more injuries, a total of 4, and still put an above average bench out there to play? i don't think, many teams in the nba could do that.

If the bench only means Brogdon and Grant, than sure. C’s 7 man rotation might be best in the league. The issue is guys will miss games and then the C’s will need to go deeper into the bench. I also don’t think JB and JT should be playing 40mins every game. Brad knew that Rob was going to miss a good amount of time as he recovers from the knee injury and that Gallo was more than likely lost for the year when he injured his knee back in Aug. These aren’t recent developments. Vonleh had to play 20mins yesterday and he wasn’t even in the NBA last year. Blake is a shell of himself, Hauser saw 3mins of court time and  Kornet/Jackson were DNP’s. That’s not good…

A team you were adamant had better depth and a better bench, even super deep bench, got clearly owned by the Celtics bench, but you're doubling down on your pessimism regarding the Celtics bench when they started a bench player, got significant contributions off the rest of the bench and won.

Some people just can't feel good about things because, gosh darn it, they made a statement and have to defend it at all costs, even if it was wrong.

The Celtics have 2 solid bench players that can be counted on at this point, which is Grant and Brogdon. I don’t think that’s pessimism, it’s just the reality of the situation. That’s not depth, IMO.

Again, you were vaunting the Sixers depth (amongst others) just days ago.  Their supposed depth contributed 11 points, 1 rebound, and 1 assist in 60 minutes of play.  The Celtics got 33% more minutes, triple the scoring, six times the assists, and 10 times the rebounds from their bench.

My argument isn’t actually that the Celtics depth is tremendous.  I don’t think it is, given that we’re already down a couple of players.  My argument is that everyone overrated the depth of other teams.  I think the Celtics have average-to-good depth, would have had more but for the injuries, and would be wise to acquire an additional player before the stretch run.

Again, virtually all of that production was from two players. The other guys combined for 3 points. The Celtics have an incredible 7 man rotation right now. The discussion from the other day was regarding the deep bench, which is not Grant and Brogdon. Gallo is more than likely out for the year. Rob will hopefully be back sometime next year, but who knows. The Celtics overall depth right now is just not good. Once players start missing games(which they do every year), it’s going to be a problem.

You seem to be discounting that White, a bench player, is starting due to injury, that Pritchard has proven two years in a row that he can be a tremendous contributor and that Blake Griffin, if he can play like he did in Brooklyn and give this team 6-8 PPG, 4 RPG, 1-2 APG and draw lots of charges, can be a very good bench contributor too. You also seem to not want to admit Vonleh had a good preseason and played high quality ball against one of the 5 best players in the league.

White, Brogdon, Grant, Pritchard, Griffin and Vonleh is a good bench. If healthy you add Gallo to that bench.

Now sure, White or Grant will be starting and Gallo is gone but if White is starting, Brogdon, Grant, Blake, Vonleh and Pritchard is still a very good bench that's 5 deep.

Strong agree. When Rob comes back (crosses fingers) there are at least seven and arguably eight guys (if you count Grant) who are legit NBA starters, plus other role players who can contribute in the right matchups. Not just Pritchard, but also Hauser (who was definitely a plus against Charlotte and Toronto).

I like our bench more than the other East contenders, Milwaukee, Philly, and Miami.

[Goldstar88]

Our bench outscored the Philly bench 34-11

#NoDepth

I don’t consider getting production out of 2 bench players to be depth. Grant and Brogdon had all but 3 points for the reserves. Blake Griffin: 1pt, Noah Vonleh: 2pts, Sam Hauser: 0pts, Kornet: DNP, Jackson:DNP. If the C’s top 7 players aren’t going to miss any time due to injury or Covid/other Illness than they could get away with only 7 players producing. I don’t think that’s very realistic, though.

of course another way to look at this is that the celtics ALREADY had two injuries to their top 7 players (TL and gallinaro) and STILL the bench beat the living snot out of philly's bench.

their bench did not have anyone on their bench score as did boston's top 2 bench players...even with the injuries to the celtics.

so... the celtics bench can not absorb 2 more injuries, a total of 4, and still put an above average bench out there to play? i don't think, many teams in the nba could do that.

If the bench only means Brogdon and Grant, than sure. C’s 7 man rotation might be best in the league. The issue is guys will miss games and then the C’s will need to go deeper into the bench. I also don’t think JB and JT should be playing 40mins every game. Brad knew that Rob was going to miss a good amount of time as he recovers from the knee injury and that Gallo was more than likely lost for the year when he injured his knee back in Aug. These aren’t recent developments. Vonleh had to play 20mins yesterday and he wasn’t even in the NBA last year. Blake is a shell of himself, Hauser saw 3mins of court time and  Kornet/Jackson were DNP’s. That’s not good…

A team you were adamant had better depth and a better bench, even super deep bench, got clearly owned by the Celtics bench, but you're doubling down on your pessimism regarding the Celtics bench when they started a bench player, got significant contributions off the rest of the bench and won.

Some people just can't feel good about things because, gosh darn it, they made a statement and have to defend it at all costs, even if it was wrong.

The Celtics have 2 solid bench players that can be counted on at this point, which is Grant and Brogdon. I don’t think that’s pessimism, it’s just the reality of the situation. That’s not depth, IMO.

Again, you were vaunting the Sixers depth (amongst others) just days ago.  Their supposed depth contributed 11 points, 1 rebound, and 1 assist in 60 minutes of play.  The Celtics got 33% more minutes, triple the scoring, six times the assists, and 10 times the rebounds from their bench.

My argument isn’t actually that the Celtics depth is tremendous.  I don’t think it is, given that we’re already down a couple of players.  My argument is that everyone overrated the depth of other teams.  I think the Celtics have average-to-good depth, would have had more but for the injuries, and would be wise to acquire an additional player before the stretch run.

Again, virtually all of that production was from two players. The other guys combined for 3 points. The Celtics have an incredible 7 man rotation right now. The discussion from the other day was regarding the deep bench, which is not Grant and Brogdon. Gallo is more than likely out for the year. Rob will hopefully be back sometime next year, but who knows. The Celtics overall depth right now is just not good. Once players start missing games(which they do every year), it’s going to be a problem.

You seem to be discounting that White, a bench player, is starting due to injury, that Pritchard has proven two years in a row that he can be a tremendous contributor and that Blake Griffin, if he can play like he did in Brooklyn and give this team 6-8 PPG, 4 RPG, 1-2 APG and draw lots of charges, can be a very good bench contributor too. You also seem to not want to admit Vonleh had a good preseason and played high quality ball against one of the 5 best players in the league.

White, Brogdon, Grant, Pritchard, Griffin and Vonleh is a good bench. If healthy you add Gallo to that bench.

Now sure, White or Grant will be starting and Gallo is gone but if White is starting, Brogdon, Grant, Blake, Vonleh and Pritchard is still a very good bench that's 5 deep.

I’m talking about the bench as it is, though. Not as it could be if Rob and Gallo weren’t injured. I do have some hope for Vonleh, but the C’s did grab him and Griffin off the scrap pile last minute, so they are far from sure things. I honestly have more hope for Noah, than I do for Blake, who looks toast. Brooklyn didn’t want him back and he was still available a few weeks before the start of the season, which says a lot about his value around the league. As far as Pritchard goes, I’m not sure he’s going to see much time when he’s behind Brown, Smart, White, and Brogdon. Those 4 guys are going to absorb all of the minutes at the 1 and 2. The problem is really backup wing and a C depth.

Will be interesting to see how things play out over the next few weeks with the bench rotation. Hopefully the C’s receive a DPE from Gallo. That could certainly come in handy…

[Walker Wiggle]

One point on last night's game... The Sixers defense down the stretch was downright awful, and it's hard for me to imagine they'll contend with the personnel they have, simply because they'll never defend at a high level.

The bulk of their minutes are going to come from a lineup featuring Maxey, Harden, Harris, PJ Tucker, and Embiid. Tucker and Embiid have good reputations as defenders, but Tucker is old and not what he once was, and Embiid is excellent down low but very vulnerable on the perimeter and defending pick and rolls. Meanwhile, that's a horrible defensive backcourt.

Point is, I think Harden and Embiid will have to be absolutely dominant offensively for the Sixers to contend this year. I think it's possible a team like Cleveland ends up with a better record than them this year.

[Celtics4ever]

Embiid always been a three quarter player due to his knee injuries,   Stamina has always been an issue for him.