76ers (0-0) at Celtics (0-0) Game #1 10/18/22

[Surferdad]

Tatum and Brown looked great.  Brogdon was great off the bench, but man am I worried about the interior.  Vonleh playing 20 minutes is a scary thought.

Vonleh was very solid for us tonight.  if he can play close to that level every night, we're in really good shape.  Blake had his moments as well -- wasn't getting pushed around under the boards which is the type of player we haven't had in a while

He also took that hit in the face from Embiid's shoulder in the 4th quarter. Should have been an offensive foul, but Noah got up, brushed it off and carried on.  I'm rooting hard for this guy to stick after the January date.

[Vermont Green]

Tatum and Brown looked great.  Brogdon was great off the bench, but man am I worried about the interior.  Vonleh playing 20 minutes is a scary thought.

Vonleh was very solid for us tonight.  if he can play close to that level every night, we're in really good shape.  Blake had his moments as well -- wasn't getting pushed around under the boards which is the type of player we haven't had in a while

Tatum and Brown were the headliners but the story of the game was our depth/bench.  31 pts combined from Brogdon and Grant.  Vonleh was plenty solid.  Blake Griffin is not quite ready but I think is going to be fine.  And Pritchard didn't even play  The PHI bench did pretty much nothing.  Back up SF (currently Hauser) seems to be light.

I think that is a good win against a team that is going to be good.

[SHAQATTACK]

Chicky Little is happy

I can go outside today

[Vermont Green]

Our bench outscored the Philly bench 34-11

#NoDepth

So...  why is Kornet on the roster?

Based on what I saw last night, I think the team has plenty of depth 1-7, where it is important, and sufficient 8-10, where it is nice to have.  People continue to be worried about 11-15.  Even with RWill and Gallinari out, the Celtics bench ran over Philly's.  Players 11-15 or whatever just don't matter that much.  We have a few soft spots in our deeper depth, like every team. 

Vonleh looked fine, he should only get better.  Did exactly what we need.  That was reassuring.  I am not sure what we are seeing in Blake Griffin so far.  He wasn't horrible but he still does not look in shape to me.  And Hauser didn't do anything.  He didn't really get much chance but that worries me some.  Not sure if he is a viable back up SF or not.

Those are the important players where there is some question.  Slots 8-10 or about that.  1st world problems.  Kornet does not matter.  My impression is that they are seeing what they have in these guys.  As I said, Vonleh has demonstrated that he is probably fine as the 8th or 9th man.  Blake probably too.  Hauser may be a stretch as the 10th man (but they still have Pritchard also). 

In the meantime, they are probably in contact with some of the buy out FAs.  I suspect they still believe RWill is coming back.  Things will look a whole lot better with him in the mix.  I don't like having to start White.  Grant, Vonleh, and Griffin are all fine enough bench bigs.  Not sure if adding Favors or Whiteside or whoever to that mix really changes things all that much (or using the TPE on Noel or something like that).  Seems like just more of what we already have.  Like I said, I think the Celtics are kind of seeing how it goes.  They will still have opportunities to bring some one in.

[SHAQATTACK]

Adam Silver is the definition of a pencil-necked geek.
I can't imagine him playing any sport at all.

Darts

[mef730]

Coach Mazz takes a bath.

Great to watch how into each other this team is.

https://twitter.com/celtics/status/1582559216740728839?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1582559216740728839%7Ctwgr%5E561fe269dbe313655dd3ab96eea7c89d9a9bde69%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.boston.com%2Fsports%2Fboston-celtics%2F2022%2F10%2F18%2Fceltics-76ers-takeaways-season-opener-2022-23%2F

Mike

[Surferdad]

Our bench outscored the Philly bench 34-11

#NoDepth

So...  why is Kornet on the roster?

Based on what I saw last night, I think the team has plenty of depth 1-7, where it is important, and sufficient 8-10, where it is nice to have.  People continue to be worried about 11-15.  Even with RWill and Gallinari out, the Celtics bench ran over Philly's.  Players 11-15 or whatever just don't matter that much.  We have a few soft spots in our deeper depth, like every team. 

Vonleh looked fine, he should only get better.  Did exactly what we need.  That was reassuring.  I am not sure what we are seeing in Blake Griffin so far.  He wasn't horrible but he still does not look in shape to me.  And Hauser didn't do anything.  He didn't really get much chance but that worries me some.  Not sure if he is a viable back up SF or not.

Those are the important players where there is some question.  Slots 8-10 or about that.  1st world problems.  Kornet does not matter.  My impression is that they are seeing what they have in these guys.  As I said, Vonleh has demonstrated that he is probably fine as the 8th or 9th man.  Blake probably too.  Hauser may be a stretch as the 10th man (but they still have Pritchard also). 

In the meantime, they are probably in contact with some of the buy out FAs.  I suspect they still believe RWill is coming back.  Things will look a whole lot better with him in the mix.  I don't like having to start White.  Grant, Vonleh, and Griffin are all fine enough bench bigs.  Not sure if adding Favors or Whiteside or whoever to that mix really changes things all that much (or using the TPE on Noel or something like that).  Seems like just more of what we already have.  Like I said, I think the Celtics are kind of seeing how it goes.  They will still have opportunities to bring some one in.

All good, I agree. However, I do think C's front office will continue to tinker "around the edges" (slots 11-15) because injuries are the wild card. We are now hearing RWill may not be back until January. A few rotation guys have already taken some hits and/or are nursing minor injuries (Brogdon, Smart).

[Goldstar88]

Our bench outscored the Philly bench 34-11

#NoDepth

I don’t consider getting production out of 2 bench players to be depth. Grant and Brogdon had all but 3 points for the reserves. Blake Griffin: 1pt, Noah Vonleh: 2pts, Sam Hauser: 0pts, Kornet: DNP, Jackson:DNP. If the C’s top 7 players aren’t going to miss any time due to injury or Covid/other Illness than they could get away with only 7 players producing. I don’t think that’s very realistic, though.

[Roy H.]

Our bench outscored the Philly bench 34-11

#NoDepth

So...  why is Kornet on the roster?

Based on what I saw last night, I think the team has plenty of depth 1-7, where it is important, and sufficient 8-10, where it is nice to have.  People continue to be worried about 11-15.  Even with RWill and Gallinari out, the Celtics bench ran over Philly's.  Players 11-15 or whatever just don't matter that much.  We have a few soft spots in our deeper depth, like every team. 

Vonleh looked fine, he should only get better.  Did exactly what we need.  That was reassuring.  I am not sure what we are seeing in Blake Griffin so far.  He wasn't horrible but he still does not look in shape to me.  And Hauser didn't do anything.  He didn't really get much chance but that worries me some.  Not sure if he is a viable back up SF or not.

Those are the important players where there is some question.  Slots 8-10 or about that.  1st world problems.  Kornet does not matter.  My impression is that they are seeing what they have in these guys.  As I said, Vonleh has demonstrated that he is probably fine as the 8th or 9th man.  Blake probably too.  Hauser may be a stretch as the 10th man (but they still have Pritchard also). 

In the meantime, they are probably in contact with some of the buy out FAs.  I suspect they still believe RWill is coming back.  Things will look a whole lot better with him in the mix.  I don't like having to start White.  Grant, Vonleh, and Griffin are all fine enough bench bigs.  Not sure if adding Favors or Whiteside or whoever to that mix really changes things all that much (or using the TPE on Noel or something like that).  Seems like just more of what we already have.  Like I said, I think the Celtics are kind of seeing how it goes.  They will still have opportunities to bring some one in.

Kornet matters.  Jackson matters.  These guys are taking slots that could be going to better players that could actually play.  It isn't really theoretical.  When Horford left the game and Vonleh entered, we were up by three points.  Over the next six minutes, Philly outscored us 19-8.  Part of that is because Vonleh needed help on Embiid every possession, which inevitably led to wide-open shots by Philly.

Put Derrick Favors in there instead of Vonleh -- or next to Vonleh -- and our defense doesn't play that poorly.

[Vermont Green]

Coach Mazz takes a bath.

Great to watch how into each other this team is.

https://twitter.com/celtics/status/1582559216740728839?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1582559216740728839%7Ctwgr%5E561fe269dbe313655dd3ab96eea7c89d9a9bde69%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.boston.com%2Fsports%2Fboston-celtics%2F2022%2F10%2F18%2Fceltics-76ers-takeaways-season-opener-2022-23%2F

Mike

That was awesome.  Love the team chemistry (easy after a nice win I guess).

[hwangjini_1]

Coach Mazz takes a bath.

Great to watch how into each other this team is.

https://twitter.com/celtics/status/1582559216740728839?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1582559216740728839%7Ctwgr%5E561fe269dbe313655dd3ab96eea7c89d9a9bde69%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.boston.com%2Fsports%2Fboston-celtics%2F2022%2F10%2F18%2Fceltics-76ers-takeaways-season-opener-2022-23%2F

Mike

good video, thanks a tp.

i think i saw wyc in there at the very end of it, congratulating mazulla. if so, that is a nice touch as well.

[hwangjini_1]

Our bench outscored the Philly bench 34-11

#NoDepth

I don’t consider getting production out of 2 bench players to be depth. Grant and Brogdon had all but 3 points for the reserves. Blake Griffin: 1pt, Noah Vonleh: 2pts, Sam Hauser: 0pts, Kornet: DNP, Jackson:DNP. If the C’s top 7 players aren’t going to miss any time due to injury or Covid/other Illness than they could get away with only 7 players producing. I don’t think that’s very realistic, though.

of course another way to look at this is that the celtics ALREADY had two injuries to their top 7 players (TL and gallinaro) and STILL the bench beat the living snot out of philly's bench.

their bench did not have anyone on their bench score as did boston's top 2 bench players...even with the injuries to the celtics.

so... the celtics bench can not absorb 2 more injuries, a total of 4, and still put an above average bench out there to play? i don't think, many teams in the nba could do that.

[sgrogan]

Our bench outscored the Philly bench 34-11

#NoDepth

I agree, Philly doesn't have any and it cost them the game.

[Vermont Green]

Our bench outscored the Philly bench 34-11

#NoDepth

I agree, Philly doesn't have any and it cost them the game.

One thing to keep in mind is that the Celtics had 6 of their top 7 returning from last season.  5 of the top 7 have played together for 3 or 4 years.  For Philly, Harden is essentially new, Tucker is new, and much of the bench is new.  I still think Philly is going to be formidable.  They are still figuring things out as a team.

[Goldstar88]

Our bench outscored the Philly bench 34-11

#NoDepth

I don’t consider getting production out of 2 bench players to be depth. Grant and Brogdon had all but 3 points for the reserves. Blake Griffin: 1pt, Noah Vonleh: 2pts, Sam Hauser: 0pts, Kornet: DNP, Jackson:DNP. If the C’s top 7 players aren’t going to miss any time due to injury or Covid/other Illness than they could get away with only 7 players producing. I don’t think that’s very realistic, though.

of course another way to look at this is that the celtics ALREADY had two injuries to their top 7 players (TL and gallinaro) and STILL the bench beat the living snot out of philly's bench.

their bench did not have anyone on their bench score as did boston's top 2 bench players...even with the injuries to the celtics.

so... the celtics bench can not absorb 2 more injuries, a total of 4, and still put an above average bench out there to play? i don't think, many teams in the nba could do that.

If the bench only means Brogdon and Grant, than sure. C’s 7 man rotation might be best in the league. The issue is guys will miss games and then the C’s will need to go deeper into the bench. I also don’t think JB and JT should be playing 40mins every game. Brad knew that Rob was going to miss a good amount of time as he recovers from the knee injury and that Gallo was more than likely lost for the year when he injured his knee back in Aug. These aren’t recent developments. Vonleh had to play 20mins yesterday and he wasn’t even in the NBA last year. Blake is a shell of himself, Hauser saw 3mins of court time and  Kornet/Jackson were DNP’s. That’s not good…